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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
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62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
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10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
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4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:25 am

To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.

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Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:12 am

Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Gabbard beating Yang huh, that looks great
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:13 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Gabbard beating Yang huh, that looks great

It does, she is one of the most agreeable candidates for me
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:16 am

The Hindustani State wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Gabbard beating Yang huh, that looks great


Umm, no... they're both tied with 5%.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:17 am

Zurkerx wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Gabbard beating Yang huh, that looks great


Umm, no... they're both tied with 5%.

With her being listed above, I’d assume she has a bit of a majority
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:17 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Gabbard beating Yang huh, that looks great

It does, she is one of the most agreeable candidates for me


Unfortunately the establishment won't let her win. Can't stop those foreign wars now can we
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:18 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:It does, she is one of the most agreeable candidates for me


Unfortunately the establishment won't let her win. Can't stop those foreign wars now can we

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:19 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Umm, no... they're both tied with 5%.

With her being listed above, I’d assume she has a bit of a majority


Maybe by a couple votes, yes, but statistically, they're tied and the difference between is likely insignificant.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:22 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:With her being listed above, I’d assume she has a bit of a majority


Maybe by a couple votes, yes, but statistically, they're tied and the difference between is likely insignificant.

Even a tie looks great, I expected her to be overshadowed by Yang and become irrelevant fast, but it seems like going against Hillary might make her popular again
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:32 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Umm, no... they're both tied with 5%.

With her being listed above, I’d assume she has a bit of a majority

I'd assume that Gabbard comes before Yang alphabetically.


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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:It does, she is one of the most agreeable candidates for me


Unfortunately the establishment won't let her win. Can't stop those foreign wars now can we

I'm sure she'd use that 5% support to win easily, if not for the evil establishment.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:41 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:It does, she is one of the most agreeable candidates for me


Unfortunately the establishment won't let her win. Can't stop those foreign wars now can we

Yeah it’s all some mass conspiracy. Define establishment for me

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Postby Aclion » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:05 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Unfortunately the establishment won't let her win. Can't stop those foreign wars now can we

Yeah it’s all some mass conspiracy. Define establishment for me

DNC organizers, super-delegates, and major news outlets.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:26 am

Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Sanders +14, Buttigieg -1, Biden -3, Warren +1. Wow.
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Totally Not OEP wrote:I'd gladly give up Ukraine and Belarus for Russian aid in defeating China.


Me too. But it's kind of presumptuous to assume that those countries are America's to "give up" in the first place. What connection do we have to them?
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Totally Not OEP wrote:I'd gladly give up Ukraine and Belarus for Russian aid in defeating China.


Me too. But it's kind of presumptuous to assume that those countries are America's to "give up" in the first place. What connection do we have to them?

We spend billions to maintain a military that can deter a Russian invasion of them.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:37 am

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Me too. But it's kind of presumptuous to assume that those countries are America's to "give up" in the first place. What connection do we have to them?

We spend billions to maintain a military that can deter a Russian invasion of them.

Belarus and Ukraine are members of NATO now?
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Aclion wrote:We spend billions to maintain a military that can deter a Russian invasion of them.

Belarus and Ukraine are members of NATO now?

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Postby Aclion » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:44 am

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Aclion wrote:We spend billions to maintain a military that can deter a Russian invasion of them.

Belarus and Ukraine are members of NATO now?

They're buffer states.
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Postby Czechostan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:04 pm

Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Oh yeah, I forgot Bennett and Delaney were still running...

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Postby Duvniask » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:22 pm

Czechostan wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Oh yeah, I forgot Bennett and Delaney were still running...

Literally who.
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Postby Page » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:24 pm

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Czechostan wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot Bennett and Delaney were still running...

Literally who.


I think Bennett is the one who sounds like a surfer bro and recently called Trump a Bolshevik.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:42 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Sanders +14, Buttigieg -1, Biden -3, Warren +1. Wow.


It's quite big indeed. I suspect Sanders will handily win their unless he takes a huge hit in Iowa.

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Zurkerx wrote:To get back on topic: Sanders widens lead in a new, New Hampshire Poll.



Sanders has a big lead their, which should be no surprise given he won the State the last time (he has 29% in this poll). I am surprised Buttigieg is as high as he is and Warren low too. For Warren, she would need a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. Otherwise, she's toast.

Oh yeah, I forgot Bennett and Delaney were still running...


Delusion does effect some differently it seems. I suspect they'll be out after Iowa.
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Valrifell wrote:Trump has benefited Russian oligarchs in other ways, to deny that is to deny reality. Believe it or not but there are other ways to aid Russian interests that don't involve Ukraine.

Now is it Russia or Russian oligarchs? I need to know where the goalposts are at now
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:46 pm

Also, Biden has received a key endorsement, this time from The International Association of Bridge, Structural and Ornamental Iron Workers.

Sanders and Warren also have big endorsements from Unions, but Unions for the most part, have stayed away this time for endorsing a candidate. Trump did win a larger number of Union voters than what a Republican usually wins in 2016 so it'll be crucial for the Democrats to have someone that supports unions strongly; that would be Biden, Sanders, and Warren.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:47 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Also, Biden has received a key endorsement, this time from The International Association of Bridge, Structural and Ornamental Iron Workers.

Sanders and Warren also have big endorsements from Unions, but Unions for the most part, have stayed away this time for endorsing a candidate. Trump did win a larger number of Union voters than what a Republican usually wins in 2016 so it'll be crucial for the Democrats to have someone that supports unions strongly; that would be Biden, Sanders, and Warren.

Good news for Biden. Unions are also key to helping get voters out and if Unions are backing the democratic nominee if could be a big help

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