2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

[San Lumen]

If a primary is closed only registered voters of that party can vote. All primaries ought to be conducted that way.

I think we should be more concerned with winning than those kinds of purity tests.

Why should someone not affiliated with a political party get to chose their nominees?

[New Paine]

Bernie Sanders draws criticism for touting Joe Rogan endorsement

Well, the hard left seems to continue be eating each other alive...

[South Odreria 2]

I think we should be more concerned with winning than those kinds of purity tests.

Why should someone not affiliated with a political party get to chose their nominees?

So that Democrats can win elections. I personally see that as a good thing.

[San Lumen]

Why should someone not affiliated with a political party get to chose their nominees?

So that Democrats can win elections. I personally see that as a good thing.

Then change your registration if you want to choose the nominee. Should I a Democrat be allowed to vote in the republican primary?

[Shrillland]

I think we should be more concerned with winning than those kinds of purity tests.

Why should someone not affiliated with a political party get to chose their nominees?

Well, some states don't have affiliations. We don't in Illinois. Besides, if you limit it to party members, you end up with UK-style primaries where the leader/nominee is chosen by a very small handful of voters. In addition, there are nonpartisan races like referenda and jungle primaries too.

[South Odreria 2]

So that Democrats can win elections. I personally see that as a good thing.

Then change your registration if you want to choose the nominee. Should I a Democrat be allowed to vote in the republican primary?

So you would rather blame random individuals for the Democratic party losing elections, than have the Democratic party win elections.

[San Lumen]

Then change your registration if you want to choose the nominee. Should I a Democrat be allowed to vote in the republican primary?

So you would rather blame random individuals for the Democratic party losing elections, than have the Democratic party win elections.

That does not answer my question

[Torrocca]

Bernie Sanders draws criticism for touting Joe Rogan endorsement

Well, the hard left seems to continue be eating each other alive...

Liberals still aren't Leftists.

From what I've seen, most of the criticism is coming from concern-trolling Liberals who had absolutely no issue whatsoever with stanning politicians who are/were or got support from war criminals or who would absolutely abandon their self-proclaimed principles and move rightward in a heartbeat for extra votes. The rest is coming from Leftists who are genuinely concerned about the endorsement because of Rogan's past acts and statements but haven't realized that Bernie didn't betray any of his decades-long principles for this support.

[Aclion]

Bernie Sanders draws criticism for touting Joe Rogan endorsement

Well, the hard left seems to continue be eating each other alive...

Liberals still aren't Leftists.

From what I've seen, most of the criticism is coming from concern-trolling Liberals who had absolutely no issue whatsoever with stanning politicians who are/were or got support from war criminals or who would absolutely abandon their self-proclaimed principles and move rightward in a heartbeat for extra votes. The rest is coming from Leftists who are genuinely concerned about the endorsement because of Rogan's past acts and statements but haven't realized that Bernie didn't betray any of his decades-long principles for this support.

Not a single person on the democratic ticket is a liberal.

[South Odreria 2]

So you would rather blame random individuals for the Democratic party losing elections, than have the Democratic party win elections.

That does not answer my question

Independents should be able to vote in Democratic primaries because Democrats should want independents to vote for them.

[Bienenhalde]

Sanders IS an independent, even if he caucuses with the Democrats.

But he polls the best with them, therefore they won't vote for him. Obviously.

I strongly suspect there is something wrong with these polls. I am an independent and I think if Sanders is the nominee I would rather vote third party.

[Torrocca]

Liberals still aren't Leftists.

From what I've seen, most of the criticism is coming from concern-trolling Liberals who had absolutely no issue whatsoever with stanning politicians who are/were or got support from war criminals or who would absolutely abandon their self-proclaimed principles and move rightward in a heartbeat for extra votes. The rest is coming from Leftists who are genuinely concerned about the endorsement because of Rogan's past acts and statements but haven't realized that Bernie didn't betray any of his decades-long principles for this support.

Not a single person on the democratic ticket is a liberal.

A lot of the candidates have widespread Liberal support, however. A good deal of those same Liberals are the ones who are concern-trolling about Joe Rogan endorsing Sanders.

[New Paine]

Bernie Sanders draws criticism for touting Joe Rogan endorsement

Well, the hard left seems to continue be eating each other alive...

Liberals still aren't Leftists.

From what I've seen, most of the criticism is coming from concern-trolling Liberals who had absolutely no issue whatsoever with stanning politicians who are/were or got support from war criminals or who would absolutely abandon their self-proclaimed principles and move rightward in a heartbeat for extra votes. The rest is coming from Leftists who are genuinely concerned about the endorsement because of Rogan's past acts and statements but haven't realized that Bernie didn't betray any of his decades-long principles for this support.

Hmm, from what I seen, it mostly leftists that have a primary focus on social justice that are critical of Bernie bragging about his endorsement of Joe Rogan,

[The Lone Alliance]

I don’t think people not affiliated with a party should be able to chose that parties candidates

It sometimes convinces the unaffiliated to switch over in the general election if the opposition guy they wanted got to the general and the one on their side didn't get in.

At least in the lower elections.

It also forces them to see the elected person to represent everyone, including the people who didn't vote for them, if they at least voted for them in the Primary.

Hmm, from what I seen, it mostly leftists that have a primary focus on social justice that are critical of Bernie bragging about his endorsement of Joe Rogan,

It's "woke" Twitter mostly, people full of sound and fury but signifying nothing.

[San Lumen]

That does not answer my question

Independents should be able to vote in Democratic primaries because Democrats should want independents to vote for them.

Should I a Democrat be able to vote in the republican primary?

[Shrillland]

Independents should be able to vote in Democratic primaries because Democrats should want independents to vote for them.

Should I a Democrat be able to vote in the republican primary?

Yes. If you want to mess up the general ballot and there's no one else on the Democratic ballot you're interested in, that's your prerogative.

[San Lumen]

In the very real possibility Trump refuses to accept he lost the election what do people think would happen? Would the military or secret service stick by him or Republicans in the senate go along with it. I only want reasonable answers not nonsense like it depends on who won.

[The Lone Alliance]

Independents should be able to vote in Democratic primaries because Democrats should want independents to vote for them.

Should I a Democrat be able to vote in the republican primary?

Imagine if you could, you could find the Republican in the primary who's views you most support and vote for them, hoping they'll win the Primary so that if you do get outvoted, you'll be out voted by a person with policy positions most tolerable to you.

[Nakena]

Bernie Sanders draws criticism for touting Joe Rogan endorsement

Well, the hard left seems to continue be eating each other alive...

Joe Rogan's endorsement means quite something.

Liberals still aren't Leftists.

From what I've seen, most of the criticism is coming from concern-trolling Liberals who had absolutely no issue whatsoever with stanning politicians who are/were or got support from war criminals or who would absolutely abandon their self-proclaimed principles and move rightward in a heartbeat for extra votes. The rest is coming from Leftists who are genuinely concerned about the endorsement because of Rogan's past acts and statements but haven't realized that Bernie didn't betray any of his decades-long principles for this support.

Hmm, from what I seen, it mostly leftists that have a primary focus on social justice that are critical of Bernie bragging about his endorsement of Joe Rogan,

They will vote anyways Democrat. So they can shove it.

[Shrillland]

In the very real possibility Trump refuses to accept he lost the election what do people think would happen? Would the military or secret service stick by him or Republicans in the senate go along with it. I only want reasonable answers not nonsense like it depends on who won.

It wouldn't be as black and white as that, I don't think. Some soldiers might side with him while others wouldn't, for example. As for Republicans in Congress siding with him, I think that would depend on if he can make a faintly plausible argument that something was wrong. It doesn't have to be airtight, but it does have to be believable.

[The Lone Alliance]

In the very real possibly Trump refuses to accept he lost the election what do people think would happen? Would the military or secret service stick by him or Republicans in the senate go along with it. I only want reasonable answers not nonsense like it depends on who won.

If Trump loses by a reasonable amount he's likely simply going to rage on twitter and demand a whole bunch of recounts.

He's not going to declare himself President for life or anything but if it's close he'll tie it up in the courts to the level we'll likely have flashbacks of 2000 over it.

If that fails he'll likely flee the country on Jan 19th because he knows the moment he's done being President the Democrats are going to charge him with everything and everything they can think of out of revenge.

If the election is so close that we're literally counting multiple states within 100 votes of each other, or if states try to pull a national popular vote angle despite not having enough states on board with it.... then it might get messy.

[Nakena]

In the very real possibility Trump refuses to accept he lost the election what do people think would happen? Would the military or secret service stick by him or Republicans in the senate go along with it. I only want reasonable answers not nonsense like it depends on who won.

Nope. Several parts of the deep state are in active or passive opposition to him. Ever since he fired Matthis, Military support is also be limited.

So no. He wouldn get any support from there, unless Sanders would go full bolshevist.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Nope. Several parts of the deep state are in active or passive opposition to him. Ever since he fired Matthis, Military support is also be limited.

So no. He wouldn get any support from there, unless Sanders would go full bolshevist.

Yeah, the idea that the national security apparatus would dismantle American democracy for Trump is outright laughable. Even if Bernie became super-radical, much easier to undermine his presidency and then top it off with a lone gunman.

[Lamoni]

Nope. Several parts of the deep state are in active or passive opposition to him. Ever since he fired Matthis, Military support is also be limited.

So no. He wouldn get any support from there, unless Sanders would go full bolshevist.

Yeah, the idea that the national security apparatus would dismantle American democracy for Trump is outright laughable. Even if Bernie became super-radical, much easier to undermine his presidency and then top it off with a lone gunman.

*** 3-day ban for advocating death ***

[Nakena]

Whoa. He wasn't even advocating death.