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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
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62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
11
10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:49 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Sure. How many people give a shit is kind of up to who you are, though.


What benefit would that have, though? I don't get it. :lol:

Do you have to? Is this something you really need to get? It seems like an odd question given the post you were responding to.
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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:50 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gim wrote:
What benefit would that have, though? I don't get it. :lol:

Do you have to? Is this something you really need to get? It seems like an odd question given the post you were responding to.


I'm basically asking what's the point of a citizen endorsing a candidate? They can vote for them, but endorsing?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:54 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Do you have to? Is this something you really need to get? It seems like an odd question given the post you were responding to.


I'm basically asking what's the point of a citizen endorsing a candidate? They can vote for them, but endorsing?

I feel like if you just took a second you can figure this one out all by yourself. Are you seriously coming into an ongoing political thread and asking us to explain endorsements? The post you first asked this question of was referring to the president endorsing a candidate. Is that really the kind of thing you're having a laughing fit over because you can't conceive of it? Did you not understand the post? What are you asking, man?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:54 am

Gim wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Do you have to? Is this something you really need to get? It seems like an odd question given the post you were responding to.


I'm basically asking what's the point of a citizen endorsing a candidate? They can vote for them, but endorsing?

You asked that in reply to the A post about Governor of Georgia potentially defying Trump with his pick for the soon to be vacant senate seat and Trump possibly calling for a primary challenge. What does one have to do with the other?

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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:55 am

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I'm basically asking what's the point of a citizen endorsing a candidate? They can vote for them, but endorsing?

You asked that in reply to the A post about Governor of Georgia potentially defying Trump with his pick for the soon to be vacant senate seat and Trump possibly calling for a primary challenge. What does one have to do with the other?


I never mentioned the Governor of Goergia in any of my posts.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:56 am

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San Lumen wrote:You asked that in reply to the A post about Governor of Georgia potentially defying Trump with his pick for the soon to be vacant senate seat and Trump possibly calling for a primary challenge. What does one have to do with the other?


I never mentioned the Governor of Goergia in any of my posts.

How clumsy do you want to paint yourself to get out of this?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 am

Gim wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You asked that in reply to the A post about Governor of Georgia potentially defying Trump with his pick for the soon to be vacant senate seat and Trump possibly calling for a primary challenge. What does one have to do with the other?


I never mentioned the Governor of Goergia in any of my posts.

Yes however you asked about citizens endorsing presidential candidates in response to a governor picking a replacement senator. Where is the connection?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:40 am


She's not going to win, so we have nothing to worry about.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:43 am

Northern Davincia wrote:

She's not going to win, so we have nothing to worry about.


Not quite how that works. Still someone with a decent following saying that stuff.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:18 pm



Seems like they only got weirdos to run in Minnesota. Where is Jessie Ventura when you need him?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:53 pm


>thinking that's a contribution
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:02 pm



Not a massive surprise. "Republicans says minority with different political opinions should be hanged". Seems pretty routine actually.

Seriously though, this is why Republicans are sometimes kicked off social media; they say horrible and abusive things. It isn't bias. They just appeal to people who aren't capable of being humane enough for Twitter. And yes, I know how low that bar is.
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:03 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:>Newsweek

>thinking that's a contribution


You forget that Republicans don't believe in news, media or current affairs.

If it hasn't been announced on trumps Twitter feed, can it really be said to have happened at all? :?:
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:05 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:>Newsweek

>thinking that's a contribution


But they published a story based on information that later turned out to be incorrect so now everything they publish is all lies.
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:07 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:

She's not going to win, so we have nothing to worry about.


Yeah it's not like any major Republican figure has said abusive things about Omar or accused her of treason...

If anything, this may help Stella win the primary. There's already been arenas full of trump supporters saying they want Omar deported and that's just because they disagree with her. I'd be surprised if majorities of Republicans didn't think that tweet was fine.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:13 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:She's not going to win, so we have nothing to worry about.


Yeah it's not like any major Republican figure has said abusive things about Omar or accused her of treason...

If anything, this may help Stella win the primary. There's already been arenas full of trump supporters saying they want Omar deported and that's just because they disagree with her. I'd be surprised if majorities of Republicans didn't think that tweet was fine.


Her winning would guaranteed Omar winning. And yeah, it's disturbing this isn't fully condemned, especially on the GOP side.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:08 pm

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Tobleste wrote:
Yeah it's not like any major Republican figure has said abusive things about Omar or accused her of treason...

If anything, this may help Stella win the primary. There's already been arenas full of trump supporters saying they want Omar deported and that's just because they disagree with her. I'd be surprised if majorities of Republicans didn't think that tweet was fine.


Her winning would guaranteed Omar winning. And yeah, it's disturbing this isn't fully condemned, especially on the GOP side.


Omar is safe regardless of who wins the primary. The district contains the entirety of Minneapolis which had been a Democratic stronghold for decades. It’s extremely unlikely any republican could win there.

I wish the state party would disown Stella. Maybe they will if she wins the primary.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:21 pm

Tobleste wrote:


Not a massive surprise. "Republicans says minority with different political opinions should be hanged". Seems pretty routine actually.

Seriously though, this is why Republicans are sometimes kicked off social media; they say horrible and abusive things. It isn't bias. They just appeal to people who aren't capable of being humane enough for Twitter. And yes, I know how low that bar is.

A single example of one is a routine?
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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:14 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
Not a massive surprise. "Republicans says minority with different political opinions should be hanged". Seems pretty routine actually.

Seriously though, this is why Republicans are sometimes kicked off social media; they say horrible and abusive things. It isn't bias. They just appeal to people who aren't capable of being humane enough for Twitter. And yes, I know how low that bar is.

A single example of one is a routine?

I'm going to try finding a source on it but, IIRC, Twitter did say something along the lines that they can't consistently apply their rules when it comes to white supremacism, like they do for other forms of extremism, because then they'd have to kick a bunch of Republican politicians out of the platform.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Her winning would guaranteed Omar winning. And yeah, it's disturbing this isn't fully condemned, especially on the GOP side.


Omar is safe regardless of who wins the primary. The district contains the entirety of Minneapolis which had been a Democratic stronghold for decades. It’s extremely unlikely any republican could win there.

I would the state party would disown Stella. Maybe they will if she wins the primary.


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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:16 pm

Liriena wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:A single example of one is a routine?

I'm going to try finding a source on it but, IIRC, Twitter did say something along the lines that they can't consistently apply their rules when it comes to white supremacism, like they do for other forms of extremism, because then they'd have to kick a bunch of Republican politicians out of the platform.

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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:16 pm

here it is

It wasn't Twitter officially, but a source within.
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Northern Davincia wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
Not a massive surprise. "Republicans says minority with different political opinions should be hanged". Seems pretty routine actually.

Seriously though, this is why Republicans are sometimes kicked off social media; they say horrible and abusive things. It isn't bias. They just appeal to people who aren't capable of being humane enough for Twitter. And yes, I know how low that bar is.

A single example of one is a routine?


How about James Woods, Paul Nehlen, Milo Yiannopoulos, Paul Joseph Watson and Laura Loomer?

Remember all the shadow banning talk and donnie said he was very concerned about censorship and was going to look into it? Guess he got distracted again.
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