2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

[Gormwood]

And here I thought athletes were all bad role models.

How is this person a good one? Not only does he have no idea what socialism even is, the article also makes mention of frequent misogynistic and homophobic remarks. Why should anyone want to be remotely like him?

Because the guy luvs gunz and haits soshulizts.

[Ifreann]

How about Yang/Gabbard for 2020? Both get very good around with each other and Yang said a couple of very sensible and true things that made me think that he has some of empathy for the needs of our time.

As a general rule of thumb, I don't trust businessmen to run a country.

FTFY

[Bear Stearns]

How about Yang/Gabbard for 2020? Both get very good around with each other and Yang said a couple of very sensible and true things that made me think that he has some of empathy for the needs of our time.

I've soured on Yang quite a bit (he's basically a one-trick pony, but competent enough I suppose), but I would absolutely love Gabbard. They'd probably go a long way towards cooling the simmering divisions in this country and also make America a lot less of a neurotic warmonger overseas. I disagree with both of them on most of their positions, but Gabbard's foreign policy outweighs all of the other cons.

[Bear Stearns]

Interesting. I could say a few things about this, but first why you wouldn from your perspective?

I'm of the opinion that, if you're a businessman, or at least a successful one, it stands to reason that your #1 talent is maximizing the profits of your endeavours. That talent can be useful for governance but, imho, there is a tendency for that talent to become an obstacle to human progress when a career made maximizing profit translates into a worldview that sees maximizing profit as the main goal of all activities.

To me, it's an issue that goes beyond conflicts of interest. I've yet to see a businessperson who actually demonstrates any skill or expertise in furthering policies that prioritize the people's welfare over the interests of corporations at home and abroad. And I have a lot more respect for career politicians who have already shown that they not only understand the issues and policies they talk about, but also that they know how to put them into practice as elected representatives, than I do for businesspeople who want to convince me that they can jump headfirst into governance with nothing but a platform.

I would never trust, say, an fossil-fueled or even clean energy executive to be a country's energy authority.
I would never trust a finance executive to be in charge of regulating finance.
I would never trust a big pharma CEO or the owner of a private hospital to watch over a country's public health system.
I would certainly not leave Internet governance in the hands of people with business ties to private ISPs.

Also, I've come to see UBI was a sort of poison apple for progressive voters.

While those executives may not be great options for those roles, they are often the only ones with the expertise to do it. How can you expect someone to regulate something has technical as leveraged finance if they don't even know how to price a bond? Similarly, a pharma executive would have a lot more knowledge about how drugs are made and how the pharma supply chain works compared to someone who doesn't it. Of course, that doesn't mean their interests and values are right (they often aren't) - but they do bring a lot of technical expertise to the table that makes them valuable.

[Bear Stearns]

I don’t believe Obama will actually try to prevent Sanders from winning.

Obama ain't gonna do shit. After hiding he took from the State Department, no wonder he's kept a low profile. Guy's probably happy to be retired and far away from those "people".

[Major-Tom]

I don’t believe Obama will actually try to prevent Sanders from winning.

Obama ain't gonna do shit. After hiding he took from the State Department, no wonder he's kept a low profile. Guy's probably happy to be retired and far away from those "people".

He'll make a few speeches, and if Sanders gets close to the nom, I could see Obama trying to dissuade some delegates from voting Sanders. We'll see, however.

[Cannot think of a name]

Obama ain't gonna do shit. After hiding he took from the State Department, no wonder he's kept a low profile. Guy's probably happy to be retired and far away from those "people".

He'll make a few speeches, and if Sanders gets close to the nom, I could see Obama trying to dissuade some delegates from voting Sanders. We'll see, however.

Superdelegates only act as tie breakers now. Unless the convention is contested, they mean nothing. If this proported concern is real than the simplest move would simply to endorse Biden.

But he hasn't.

[Major-Tom]

He'll make a few speeches, and if Sanders gets close to the nom, I could see Obama trying to dissuade some delegates from voting Sanders. We'll see, however.

Superdelegates only act as tie breakers now. Unless the convention is contested, they mean nothing. If this proported concern is real than the simplest move would simply to endorse Biden.

But he hasn't.

True, true, though I’m certain it would break historical precedent were he to endorse a nominee this early in the game.

[Stellonia]

How about Yang/Gabbard for 2020? Both get very good around with each other and Yang said a couple of very sensible and true things that made me think that he has some of empathy for the needs of our time.

I've soured on Yang quite a bit (he's basically a one-trick pony, but competent enough I suppose), but I would absolutely love Gabbard. They'd probably go a long way towards cooling the simmering divisions in this country and also make America a lot less of a neurotic warmonger overseas. I disagree with both of them on most of their positions, but Gabbard's foreign policy outweighs all of the other cons.

Yang is hardly a one-trick pony. He has other great policies and ideas, such as paid family leave and Democracy Dollars.

[Greater Miami Shores]

The Democrats should choose a Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren ticket or
An Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders ticket.
Either one would be the natural Democratic Party ticket.

[Washingtown]

The Democrats should choose a Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren ticket or
An Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders ticket.
Either one would be the natural Democratic Party ticket.

Both are from solidly Democratic states. Won't happen.

[San Lumen]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/georg ... UmjnB1QJ/#

Georgia Governor Brian Kemop appears poised to defy Trump's wishes and appoint financial executive Kelly Loeffler to the US Senate next week to replace Johnny Isakson who is stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues. Trump has pressured the Governor to appoint Representative Doug Collins a stanch Trump defender.

I would not be shocked if Collins primaries Loeffler if Kemp indeed picks her and Trump endorses Collins.

Loeffler would be the second woman to serve in the Senate from Georgia after Rebecca Latimer Fulton who was the first woman in the Senate and served for one day in November 1922.

[Aureumterra]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/georgia-gov-expected-tap-finance-exec-senate-next-week/qDibvzRR0L6VvyUmjnB1QJ/#

Georgia Governor Brian Kemop appears poised to defy Trump's wishes and appoint financial executive Kelly Loeffler to the US Senate next week to replace Johnny Isakson who is stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues. Trump has pressured the Governor to appoint Representative Doug Collins a stanch Trump defender.

I would not be shocked if Collins primaries Loeffler if Kemp indeed picks her and Trump endorses Collins.

Loeffler would be the second woman to serve in the Senate from Georgia after Rebecca Latimer Fulton who was the first woman in the Senate and served for one day in November 1922.

What does this have to do with the election?

[San Lumen]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/georgia-gov-expected-tap-finance-exec-senate-next-week/qDibvzRR0L6VvyUmjnB1QJ/#

Georgia Governor Brian Kemop appears poised to defy Trump's wishes and appoint financial executive Kelly Loeffler to the US Senate next week to replace Johnny Isakson who is stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues. Trump has pressured the Governor to appoint Representative Doug Collins a stanch Trump defender.

I would not be shocked if Collins primaries Loeffler if Kemp indeed picks her and Trump endorses Collins.

Loeffler would be the second woman to serve in the Senate from Georgia after Rebecca Latimer Fulton who was the first woman in the Senate and served for one day in November 1922.

What does this have to do with the election?

This thread is for all elections next year. Not just President will be on the ballot

[Gormwood]

Wrong Republican permanently banned, but it's a start!

Republican running to challenge Rep. Ilhan Omar has Twitter account permanently suspended

[San Lumen]

Wrong Republican permanently banned, but it's a start!

Republican running to challenge Rep. Ilhan Omar has Twitter account permanently suspended

Why do safe districts seem to attract some of the craziest people to file? Stella has no chance anyway as the district contains all of Minneapolis a Democratic stronghold

[The Andromeda Island Group]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/georgia-gov-expected-tap-finance-exec-senate-next-week/qDibvzRR0L6VvyUmjnB1QJ/#

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp appears poised to defy Trump's wishes and appoint financial executive Kelly Loeffler to the US Senate next week to replace Johnny Isakson who is stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues. Trump has pressured the Governor to appoint Representative Doug Collins a stanch Trump defender.

I would not be shocked if Collins primaries Loeffler if Kemp indeed picks her and Trump endorses Collins.

Loeffler would be the second woman to serve in the Senate from Georgia after Rebecca Latimer Fulton who was the first woman in the Senate and served for one day in November 1922.

At least this would show that the GOP has SOME Independent voices. Gov. Kemp has chosen to resist the Trump Borg and make his own decision.

[Juristonia]

Wrong Republican permanently banned, but it's a start!

Republican running to challenge Rep. Ilhan Omar has Twitter account permanently suspended

Why do safe districts seem to attract some of the craziest people to file? Stella has no chance anyway as the district contains all of Minneapolis a Democratic stronghold

The "sane" candidates don't bother running, because they know this, so you end up with people like Stella, who should be nowhere near a political campaign and should spend her time getting the serious mental help she needs.
And I don't mean that in a "I disagree with her so she's nuts" way. She legitimately seems like she has some serious issues going on.

[Gim]

My rankings of who will likely be the nominee:

Pete
Warren
Bernie
Biden
Yang
Bloomberg
Booker
Klobuchar
Castro
Everyone Else

Bernie's my favourite within that group of people.

[San Lumen]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/georgia-gov-expected-tap-finance-exec-senate-next-week/qDibvzRR0L6VvyUmjnB1QJ/#

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp appears poised to defy Trump's wishes and appoint financial executive Kelly Loeffler to the US Senate next week to replace Johnny Isakson who is stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues. Trump has pressured the Governor to appoint Representative Doug Collins a stanch Trump defender.

I would not be shocked if Collins primaries Loeffler if Kemp indeed picks her and Trump endorses Collins.

Loeffler would be the second woman to serve in the Senate from Georgia after Rebecca Latimer Fulton who was the first woman in the Senate and served for one day in November 1922.

At least this would show that the GOP has SOME Independent voices. Gov. Kemp has chosen to resist the Trump Borg and make his own decision.

I agree. It would be nice to see that some Republicans are still capable of independent thought and not be totally beholden to Trump like some dictator.

If the governor does pick Loeffler I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised for Trump to publicly admonish Kemp and call for a primary challenge and endorse the challenger

[Gim]

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If the governor does pick Loeffler I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised for Trump to publicly admonish Kemp and call for a primary challenge and endorse the challenger[/quote]

Citizens can endorse presidential candidates?

[Cannot think of a name]

If the governor does pick Loeffler I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised for Trump to publicly admonish Kemp and call for a primary challenge and endorse the challenger

Citizens can endorse presidential candidates?

Sure. How many people give a shit is kind of up to who you are, though.

[San Lumen]

[quote="San Lumen";p="36482132"
If the governor does pick Loeffler I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised for Trump to publicly admonish Kemp and call for a primary challenge and endorse the challenger

Citizens can endorse presidential candidates?[/quote]
I don’t understand what your asking. This has nothing do with endorsing a presidential candidate. Picking Kelly Loeffler For the soon to be vacant senate seat would defy Trump as he wanted the Governor to pick Doug Collins a congressman. Trump doesn’t like when people go against him.

[Gim]

Citizens can endorse presidential candidates?

Sure. How many people give a shit is kind of up to who you are, though.

What benefit would that have, though? I don't get it.

[San Lumen]

Why do safe districts seem to attract some of the craziest people to file? Stella has no chance anyway as the district contains all of Minneapolis a Democratic stronghold

The "sane" candidates don't bother running, because they know this, so you end up with people like Stella, who should be nowhere near a political campaign and should spend her time getting the serious mental help she needs.
And I don't mean that in a "I disagree with her so she's nuts" way. She legitimately seems like she has some serious issues going on.

I agree with this assessment. It is rather apparent she’s not well. Wasn’t she also arrested for shoplifting?