2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

[Greater Miami Shores]

As you know, I am always good for surprises. And theres always more reasons. Sometimes its also a matter of perspective.

What really gets you going for her? The support for brutal dictatorships, the weird homophobic past, the Tucker Carlson appearances? Something else?

Well Hillary does support the Cuban regime, but all the Democrat Presidential candidates support the Cuban regime, especially Bernie Sanders.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Because she has a positive energy, mindset and shes my homegirl for 2020. Even though its at this point unlikely that she makes it tbqh.

Also she's the only one calling out the military industrial complex and endless war. Even Bernie Sanders (who I will vote for) is somewhat weak on foreign policy issues compared to Tulsi.

I doubt it will happen but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

Posted by Page:
but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

oh no not again Page, and Hillary as Secretary of Defense, hell no.
But I hope President Trump wins reelection in 2020.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Clinton entering the race and winning would be great.

If I were a Trump supporter I'd be praying for Clinton to enter the race. There is no greater gift the MAGA crowd could ever hope for.

Trump's core base is shrinking in size.

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Also she's the only one calling out the military industrial complex and endless war. Even Bernie Sanders (who I will vote for) is somewhat weak on foreign policy issues compared to Tulsi.

I doubt it will happen but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

Posted by Page:
but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

oh no not again Page, and Hillary as Secretary of Defense, hell no.
But I hope President Trump wins reelection in 2020.

Tulsi as Secretary of Defense, you got my two replies mixed up.

[Talvezout]

I feel really mixed if Sherrod Brown does end up running. On one hand, I'd definitely support him in a heartbeat, but on the other hand, if he goes that Senate seat is definitely flipping.

Now is the time when people are supposed to be getting OUT not in lol, and we need every Senate seat we can get atm

Yeah, if he had declared back in like January I would be 100% behind him given his progressive policies and the fact that he has won in a purple/leaning red state. But yeah, we need every Senate seat we can get, and entering now would be way too late.

I also have the same feelings about Tammy Baldwin as well. Progressive, has won in a purple state, and has the added benefit of being younger but also having experience. But alas, it's too late now.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Posted by Page:
but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

oh no not again Page, and Hillary as Secretary of Defense, hell no.
But I hope President Trump wins reelection in 2020.

Tulsi as Secretary of Defense, you got my two replies mixed up.

My apologies Page.

I wont use the quote boxes directly on my post for emphasis on my posts anymore, it is understood.

[Thermodolia]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

[Thermodolia]

Posted by Page:
but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

oh no not again Page, and Hillary as Secretary of Defense, hell no.
But I hope President Trump wins reelection in 2020.

Tulsi as Secretary of Defense, you got my two replies mixed up.

Tulsi would be a great SECDEF

[Rojava Free State]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I hate that the only viable alternative to trump is joe biden. The guy who was friends with segregationists, thinks dick Cheney is a good guy, and voted for the Iraq war. He's also the guy from the song one, because he can't remember anything

[Cannot think of a name]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I hate that the only viable alternative to trump is joe biden. The guy who was friends with segregationists, thinks dick Cheney is a good guy, and voted for the Iraq war. He's also the guy from the song one, because he can't remember anything

He's not the only viable alternative. Also, when he's not campaigning for himself he's a pretty good guy to have on the road. Which is exactly what he'll become for whoever wins.

[Rojava Free State]

I hate that the only viable alternative to trump is joe biden. The guy who was friends with segregationists, thinks dick Cheney is a good guy, and voted for the Iraq war. He's also the guy from the song one, because he can't remember anything

He's not the only viable alternative. Also, when he's not campaigning for himself he's a pretty good guy to have on the road. Which is exactly what he'll become for whoever wins.

Youre right he's not the only viable alternative but he's the most likely one. And while I'm sure he's a nice guy in person, it doesn't change the fact that Joe Biden would just be a return to the status quo

[Zurkerx]

Well Derp: I mixed up the dates. Tomorrow is the deadline for qualifying for the debate. My bad.



Oh, if he ran, there's a good chance he could become the nominee and win the election. Hell, he would be one of the best choices for VP. Unfortunately, he's in a Swing State becoming increasingly red. Still worth to have him as a VP though if I was a Democrat.

That would depend on how strong the candidate was otherwise with labor. I agree that Brown, most years, would win the nomination, but he'd be wasted as president.

Well, the only people I can think that are remotely strong with Labor ties are Biden, Warren, and Sanders; the others I don't know. If it is someone like Buttigieg, he'll need to pick someone from a Swing State (they all should) and someone with a strong Labor Record because I do think he's lacking it to an extent.

[Gormwood]

It would not be "deliciously ironic" if she got the nomination, it would be crazy and weird and sad.

You missed the part about her winning the general election. There is no irony in her getting the nomination only to lose as expected.

[Nakena]

Because she has a positive energy, mindset and shes my homegirl for 2020. Even though its at this point unlikely that she makes it tbqh.

Also she's the only one calling out the military industrial complex and endless war. Even Bernie Sanders (who I will vote for) is somewhat weak on foreign policy issues compared to Tulsi.

I doubt it will happen but I hope President Sanders makes her Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense.

Oh yeah Tulsi is the candidate of Peace and Love in this election. What is not to like? ; D

[Zurkerx]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I'm not sure if any Democrat can take Georgia in terms of the Presidency but I think they could win one of the Senate Seats if they play their cards right. Of course, if Stacey Abrams efforts of registering and getting people out to vote are successful, then may Georgia will be closer, if not won by Democrats. For that to happen though, they'll need high turnout among suburban women and African Americans I would think.

[Ifreann]

Clearly they should be supporting the Neo-Nazis instead.

Got a source on that Neo-Nazi thing?

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/boli ... o-camacho/

[Ifreann]

He's not the only viable alternative. Also, when he's not campaigning for himself he's a pretty good guy to have on the road. Which is exactly what he'll become for whoever wins.

Youre right he's not the only viable alternative but he's the most likely one. And while I'm sure he's a nice guy in person, it doesn't change the fact that Joe Biden would just be a return to the status quo

Biden isn't the most likely alternative to Trump either.

[The Black Forrest]

Youre right he's not the only viable alternative but he's the most likely one. And while I'm sure he's a nice guy in person, it doesn't change the fact that Joe Biden would just be a return to the status quo

Biden isn't the most likely alternative to Trump either.

Whom do you think it will be?

[Gormwood]

Warren, Sanders or even Buttigieg are the most likely.

[Major-Tom]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I'm not sure - Biden obviously isn't my favorite, so I'm biased here, but all these early polls showing him winning a "landslide" in purple to light red states seems premature - his popularity is akin to Hillary's around this same time frame in late 2015, generated primarily by name recognition and some vague understanding of him/her being the "consensus candidate."

[Cannot think of a name]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I'm not sure - Biden obviously isn't my favorite, so I'm biased here, but all these early polls showing him winning a "landslide" in purple to light red states seems premature - his popularity is akin to Hillary's around this same time frame in late 2015, generated primarily by name recognition and some vague understanding of him/her being the "consensus candidate."

Not to mention there's a reason there's an October surprise and not a "November the year before" surprise.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

I'm personally leaning towards Warren over Biden and Bernie, and I have to admit this is one aspect of her candidacy that really worries me. While I lowkey suspect the NYTimes has a pro-Biden bias, I'm glad my theory that a post-Trump GOP will inevitably win a significant amount of nonwhite voters based on how the Democratic Party is evolving has some support among media pundits.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/opin ... sContainer

That was scarily prescient. Well done on your analysis, seriously good work. I still hope you might be wrong in the long term but it seems you were ahead of the game. GG no re

Lol, you’ll have to give Tom Edsall, Michael Lund, and Diopolis credit for that idea. My original theory was that a post-Trump GOP will make significant gains with African-American and Latino voters- partly because the current Republican party is facing a demographic time bomb with how reliant it is on angry white Christians- and partly because the social/cultural disconnect between educated, urban white progressives and less educated, less well-off nonwhite voter blocs is real. I think Asians will continue voting moderately Dem overall by a similar margin as they do today.

[Professor Irwin Corey]

If election was held today Joe Biden would flip Georgia 51% to 43% while GA senate seat would flip blue

I'm not sure - Biden obviously isn't my favorite, so I'm biased here, but all these early polls showing him winning a "landslide" in purple to light red states seems premature - his popularity is akin to Hillary's around this same time frame in late 2015, generated primarily by name recognition and some vague understanding of him/her being the "consensus candidate."

Good to admit it, however Biden is not remotely comparable to H mainly because he doesn't need to charter a separate plane for all the baggage.

[Nakena]

Got a source on that Neo-Nazi thing?

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/boli ... o-camacho/

That looks like the communist counterpart to the Daily Stormer.

[The Rich Port]

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/boli ... o-camacho/

That looks like the communist counterpart to the Daily Stormer.

And yet... Seems like it's accurate. Fancy that.

https://www.anred.org/2019/11/10/quien- ... n-bolivia/

This is a Spanish source, but I can safely tell you, the guy has a weird emphasis on Christian values and authoritarianism by Latin American standards. Keeps going on about Christ the Redeemer and how his party is a "holy alliance".

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/13/why-th ... wanted-it/

I think it says a lot that I can't find any information from mainstream sources about wtf is happening exactly.

Morales, Camacho, Mesa, who is in charge now besides the army?