2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

[Kowani]

Gabbard is a Libertarian Anti-War Progressive of course some loonies support her. Looney Libertarians, Looney Anti-War people and Looney Progressives support her. None of those 3 are inherently looney but Gabbard's supporters are mostly from the easily brainwashed cult looney factions of those cliques.

Gabbard is about as progressive as a car brake.

[Nakena]

Tulsi Gabbard is still my homegirl.

The perfect progressive alternative for 2020.

What could possibly go wrong?

[Bear Stearns]

And "acting presidential" lmfao that is an elitist smokescreen that people throw up in place of having an actual position. Who cares that your policies are horrible as long as you speak like an Ivy Leaguer and use the correct buzzwords.

As someone who works in banking, I see that bullshit every day, and it's really not that impressive.

It's a tragic sign of the times that once common qualities like basic dignity are dismissed as bullshit.

It is entirely bullshit when it is used to cover up for really shitty behavior. Which is almost always the case. There is no dignity in that.

It's a tragic sign of the times that someone who claims to work in banking sees basic dignity as nothing more than "an elitist smokescreen."

It clearly is elitist.

I feel profoundly sorry for you. Maybe, when you finally gain some basic dignity, you'll understand why.

I feel sorry for you that you prefer style over substance, because that's essentially what you're getting at. You don't know what dignity is. You think it is an appearance.

[The Andromeda Archipelago]

It's a tragic sign of the times that once common qualities like basic dignity are dismissed as bullshit.

It is entirely bullshit when it is used to cover up for really shitty behavior. Which is almost always the case. There is no dignity in that.

It's a tragic sign of the times that someone who claims to work in banking sees basic dignity as nothing more than "an elitist smokescreen."

It clearly is elitist.

I feel profoundly sorry for you. Maybe, when you finally gain some basic dignity, you'll understand why.

I feel sorry for you that you prefer style over substance, because that's essentially what you're getting at. You don't know what dignity is. You think it is an appearance.

It's sad to see just how hard you're trying to provoke an undignified response.

What's next? Profanity directed at me personally? Childish nicknames? Go ahead. Prove to us what we already know: You are devoid of honor.

For some of us dignity is more than just a buzzword.

And calling me elitist? The quality of our exchange should prove which of us is the better person.

[Farnhamia]

It is entirely bullshit when it is used to cover up for really shitty behavior. Which is almost always the case. There is no dignity in that.



It clearly is elitist.



I feel sorry for you that you prefer style over substance, because that's essentially what you're getting at. You don't know what dignity is. You think it is an appearance.

It's sad to see just how hard you're trying to provoke an undignified response.

What's next? Profanity directed at me personally? Childish nicknames? Go ahead. Prove to us what we already know: You are devoid of honor.

For some of us dignity is more than just a buzzword.

And calling me elitist? The quality of our exchange should prove which of us is the better person.

Which of you two is a better person is not the point of the thread. Drop it.

[Ifreann]

Lots of Trump supporters seem to think that "being presidential" means "being like previous presidents", and dismiss that as a worthwhile trait because previous presidents were shit. And they were, sure, but I don't think that that's really what "being presidential" means. I think that "being presidential" means something more like "being a fit representative for us", "being a worthy first citizen". Embodying what people imagine to be their best characteristics, but without being unrealistically perfect. And most politicians try to act like that, because they're professionals and not stupid, and that's where the comparisons between Trump and Obama or Bush or Clinton come from, that's why people suddenly thought "At last, he's presidential!" when Trump read a speech from a teleprompter without making a total shambles of it.


Or maybe I'm talking shit, I dunno.

[The Andromeda Archipelago]

Lots of Trump supporters seem to think that "being presidential" means "being like previous presidents", and dismiss that as a worthwhile trait because previous presidents were shit. And they were, sure, but I don't think that that's really what "being presidential" means. I think that "being presidential" means something more like "being a fit representative for us", "being a worthy first citizen". Embodying what people imagine to be their best characteristics, but without being unrealistically perfect. And most politicians try to act like that, because they're professionals and not stupid, and that's where the comparisons between Trump and Obama or Bush or Clinton come from, that's why people suddenly thought "At last, he's presidential!" when Trump read a speech from a teleprompter without making a total shambles of it.

Or maybe I'm talking shit, I dunno.

Here, here!

[Telconi]

Lots of Trump supporters seem to think that "being presidential" means "being like previous presidents", and dismiss that as a worthwhile trait because previous presidents were shit. And they were, sure, but I don't think that that's really what "being presidential" means. I think that "being presidential" means something more like "being a fit representative for us", "being a worthy first citizen". Embodying what people imagine to be their best characteristics, but without being unrealistically perfect. And most politicians try to act like that, because they're professionals and not stupid, and that's where the comparisons between Trump and Obama or Bush or Clinton come from, that's why people suddenly thought "At last, he's presidential!" when Trump read a speech from a teleprompter without making a total shambles of it.


Or maybe I'm talking shit, I dunno.

Why is this valuable?

[Ifreann]

Lots of Trump supporters seem to think that "being presidential" means "being like previous presidents", and dismiss that as a worthwhile trait because previous presidents were shit. And they were, sure, but I don't think that that's really what "being presidential" means. I think that "being presidential" means something more like "being a fit representative for us", "being a worthy first citizen". Embodying what people imagine to be their best characteristics, but without being unrealistically perfect. And most politicians try to act like that, because they're professionals and not stupid, and that's where the comparisons between Trump and Obama or Bush or Clinton come from, that's why people suddenly thought "At last, he's presidential!" when Trump read a speech from a teleprompter without making a total shambles of it.


Or maybe I'm talking shit, I dunno.

Why is this valuable?

If I have ever said anything valuable it was probably by accident. This is just my thoughts on the adverb "presidential" wrt American politics.

[Napkizemlja]

Tulsi Gabbard is still my homegirl.

The perfect progressive alternative for 2020.

What could possibly go wrong?

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

[Northern Davincia]

Gabbard is a Libertarian Anti-War Progressive of course some loonies support her. Looney Libertarians, Looney Anti-War people and Looney Progressives support her. None of those 3 are inherently looney but Gabbard's supporters are mostly from the easily brainwashed cult looney factions of those cliques.

Why are they loony?

[Napkizemlja]

Gabbard is a Libertarian Anti-War Progressive of course some loonies support her. Looney Libertarians, Looney Anti-War people and Looney Progressives support her. None of those 3 are inherently looney but Gabbard's supporters are mostly from the easily brainwashed cult looney factions of those cliques.

How is Gabbard a libertarian?

[Ngelmish]

Lots of Trump supporters seem to think that "being presidential" means "being like previous presidents", and dismiss that as a worthwhile trait because previous presidents were shit. And they were, sure, but I don't think that that's really what "being presidential" means. I think that "being presidential" means something more like "being a fit representative for us", "being a worthy first citizen". Embodying what people imagine to be their best characteristics, but without being unrealistically perfect. And most politicians try to act like that, because they're professionals and not stupid, and that's where the comparisons between Trump and Obama or Bush or Clinton come from, that's why people suddenly thought "At last, he's presidential!" when Trump read a speech from a teleprompter without making a total shambles of it.


Or maybe I'm talking shit, I dunno.

Why is this valuable?

Expressing empathy and solidarity towards constituents you disagree with is a sign of moral superiority.

Tulsi Gabbard is still my homegirl.

The perfect progressive alternative for 2020.

What could possibly go wrong?

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

What she did for him in 2016 was for herself in 2020.

[Telconi]

Why is this valuable?

Expressing empathy and solidarity towards constituents you disagree with is a sign of moral superiority.

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

What she did for him in 2016 was for herself in 2020.

Sometimes, sometimes not.

Also, nobody does this, so it isn't relevant.

[Napkizemlja]

Why is this valuable?

Expressing empathy and solidarity towards constituents you disagree with is a sign of moral superiority.

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

What she did for him in 2016 was for herself in 2020.

How so? I doubt she expected that Trump would be POTUS in 2020 in 2016.

[Nakena]

Tulsi Gabbard is still my homegirl.

The perfect progressive alternative for 2020.

What could possibly go wrong?

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

Its quite interesting but the Clinton network behind this... that explains a few things going on there. Who would have thought. It seems they are hellbend on self-sabotage, or messing up the party because they couldn win when it was "their time".

[Blargoblarg]

A common talking point from people outside the ideological lockstep of the party not doing so hot in the polls.

And it's also a valid talking point. Once Ron Paul was getting popular, Fox News shut him out. A similar thing is being done to Gabbard, but more malicious.

The corporate media did the same thing to Bernie in 2016, and they've been trying to do it to him again this election.

[Napkizemlja]

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

Its quite interesting but the Clinton network behind this... that explains a few things going on there. Who would have thought. It seems they are hellbend on self-sabotage, or messing up the party because they couldn win when it was "their time".

I think it's more Tulsi pointed out the DNC corruption again recently and shaded Clinton for her deplorables remark during the debate.

[Napkizemlja]

It would be amusing if Gabbard actually went third party just to gauge the reactions here.

She wouldn't and most people would consider that to be a pretty boneheaded move, myself included.

Yeah it would be pretty stupid and only "validate" Clinton's hot take against her but tbh at the same time I wouldn't blame her for doing it out of spite either.

[Sancturia]

Is there a good democratic candidate?

[Kowani]

Is there a good democratic candidate?

Bernie Sanders still tops the list.

[Aclion]

Is there a good democratic candidate?

No. The DNC has seen to that.

[Juristonia]

Is there a good democratic candidate?

That depends on what you consider good and which policies you find important.

[Vassenor]

Tulsi Gabbard is still my homegirl.

The perfect progressive alternative for 2020.

What could possibly go wrong?

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

how do you smear someone without naming them?

[Aclion]

I feel really bad for Tulsi. The smear campaign against her, now led by HRC, is really...pathetic. I'm glad my homie Yang has her back. I wish Sanders did as well, given what she did for him in 2016.

how do you smear someone without naming them?

By being specific enough that people can figure out who you're talking about anyway.