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What is your racial background/identity?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm

White or Caucasian: European
283
65%
White or Caucasian: MENA
10
2%
East Asian (Japan to Indonesia)
32
7%
South Asian (Pakistan to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka)
13
3%
Black or African
12
3%
Latino/Latin American
19
4%
Native American
6
1%
Pacific Islander
1
0%
Mixed/Other (non-white)
6
1%
Mixed/Other (part-white)
55
13%
 
Total votes : 437

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:12 pm

NewLakotah wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The larger point is that this is obviously because the world in general is becoming even less majority White (when Whites have always been a minority globally speaking) and I take issue with allowing this trend to continue.

I'm not cool with letting the majority dark countries to continue reproducing too much just to send their surplus people to our home countries as opposed to keeping them overseas so that perhaps they'll be more responsible in terms of developing their countries of origin instead of making our life harder via this neoliberal globalization bullshit.

Nationalist Populism all the way.

Why does it matter what percentage of the population of a nation/world is white or not? If you have a problem, then start reproducing lol. That's the only "problem" here. Blame your modern education, and society for that, can't blame others. This whole "white genocide" thing is more laughable than anything.


There used to be a time when genocide meant mass murder. Now it means that a black and white person are getting married. I'm so ashamed of this world
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Postby The Rapture Republic » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:13 pm

I identify as a sentient Oreo.


Though, seriously, I am mixed race, African and White European.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:14 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Why does it matter what percentage of the population of a nation/world is white or not? If you have a problem, then start reproducing lol. That's the only "problem" here. Blame your modern education, and society for that, can't blame others. This whole "white genocide" thing is more laughable than anything.


There used to be a time when genocide meant mass murder. Now it means that a black and white person are getting married. I'm so ashamed of this world

At least most people don't think like that.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:15 pm

The Rapture Republic wrote:I identify as a sentient Oreo.


Though, seriously, I am mixed race, African and White European.

Sentient Oreo. Purrfectt....
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Rojava Free State wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Why does it matter what percentage of the population of a nation/world is white or not? If you have a problem, then start reproducing lol. That's the only "problem" here. Blame your modern education, and society for that, can't blame others. This whole "white genocide" thing is more laughable than anything.


There used to be a time when genocide meant mass murder. Now it means that a black and white person are getting married. I'm so ashamed of this world

When it's taken out of its real context, we can only wonder.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:16 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Neoliberal globalism is not caused by brown or black people. It's usually wealthy white industrialists who want cheap labor that support this, so I'm reality white countries are not being invaded. It isn't an invasion when the people in power open the door


It is an invasion to me, that doesn't have to be allowed. If my politics were allowed but one chance at power, something could be done about what I complain about, if not many things. Most on the Left would be displeased with my actions of course, but if they're for the immigrants- they can always join them voluntarily.

It is the right's contention that the Left doesn't truly care about any of those people, they're brought in to serve as future votes if the US remains flawed enough to keep allowing for birthright citizenship.
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Postby NewLakotah » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:19 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:Why does it matter what percentage of the population of a nation/world is white or not? If you have a problem, then start reproducing lol. That's the only "problem" here. Blame your modern education, and society for that, can't blame others. This whole "white genocide" thing is more laughable than anything.


There used to be a time when genocide meant mass murder. Now it means that a black and white person are getting married. I'm so ashamed of this world

Exactly. Hell, I guess I'm apart of it for being mixed lol.
Saiwania wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Neoliberal globalism is not caused by brown or black people. It's usually wealthy white industrialists who want cheap labor that support this, so I'm reality white countries are not being invaded. It isn't an invasion when the people in power open the door


It is an invasion to me, that doesn't have to be allowed. If my politics were allowed but one chance at power, something could be done about what I complain about, if not many things. Most on the Left would be displeased with my actions of course, but if they're for the immigrants- they can always join them voluntarily.

It is the right's contention that the Left doesn't truly care about any of those people, they're brought in to serve as future votes if the US remains flawed enough to keep allowing for birthright citizenship.

You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:23 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Neoliberal globalism is not caused by brown or black people. It's usually wealthy white industrialists who want cheap labor that support this, so I'm reality white countries are not being invaded. It isn't an invasion when the people in power open the door


It is an invasion to me, that doesn't have to be allowed. If my politics were allowed but one chance at power, something could be done about what I complain about, if not many things. Most on the Left would be displeased with my actions of course, but if they're for the immigrants- they can always join them voluntarily.

It is the right's contention that the Left doesn't truly care about any of those people, they're brought in to serve as future votes if the US remains flawed enough to keep allowing for birthright citizenship.


It doesn't matter what it is to you. They aren't invading if someone says come on in. And if you have an issue living among non whites, tell me why you haven't established that all white commune at a cabin in the woods yet? America is not a white country. White people are not native to this land. The only people who were native to this land are mostly dead. Everyone has just as much of a right to America as the next guy and his mom
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:24 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
There used to be a time when genocide meant mass murder. Now it means that a black and white person are getting married. I'm so ashamed of this world

At least most people don't think like that.


Thank god. I'd already be living on mars if they did
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:24 pm

NewLakotah wrote:You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...


Wanting to allow your own country to change from within, to not stand up for or defend your own national culture, heritage, etc. takes a lot away from the entire point of being Conservative. That is tantamount to willful neglect on an individual level. The right by definition, isn't comprised of Globalists. At least definitely not the rank and file. A core purpose of any right wing movement is Nationalism.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:26 pm

Saiwania wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...


Wanting to allow your own country to change from within, to not stand up for or defend your own national culture, heritage, etc. takes a lot away from the entire point of being Conservative. That is tantamount to willful neglect on an individual level. The right by definition, isn't comprised of Globalists. At least definitely not the rank and file. A core purpose of any right wing movement is Nationalism.


Why do you assume a change in race is gonna automatically change the culture of america?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:26 pm

Saiwania wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...


Wanting to allow your own country to change from within, to not stand up for or defend your own national culture, heritage, etc. takes a lot away from the entire point of being Conservative. That is tantamount to willful neglect on an individual level. The right by definition, isn't comprised of Globalists. At least definitely not the rank and file. A core purpose of any right wing movement is Nationalism.

How is the American national culture white? Is there any white culture? The term is so poorly defined.
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Postby NewLakotah » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It is an invasion to me, that doesn't have to be allowed. If my politics were allowed but one chance at power, something could be done about what I complain about, if not many things. Most on the Left would be displeased with my actions of course, but if they're for the immigrants- they can always join them voluntarily.

It is the right's contention that the Left doesn't truly care about any of those people, they're brought in to serve as future votes if the US remains flawed enough to keep allowing for birthright citizenship.


It doesn't matter what it is to you. They aren't invading if someone says come on in. And if you have an issue living among non whites, tell me why you haven't established that all white commune at a cabin in the woods yet? America is not a white country. White people are not native to this land. The only people who were native to this land are mostly dead. Everyone has just as much of a right to America as the next guy and his mom

Mostly but not all ;)
Saiwania wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...


Wanting to allow your own country to change from within, to not stand up for or defend your own national culture, heritage, etc. takes a lot away from the entire point of being Conservative. That is tantamount to willful neglect on an individual level. The right by definition, isn't comprised of Globalists. At least definitely not the rank and file. A core purpose of any right wing movement is Nationalism.

Except that IS American culture. Sticking to their identity and not changing. Think about it. When the whites arrived to the Americas, they keep their own cultures. THe French in Canada, the British Canadians, the US British-Americans, etc. They kept their own identities, not adapting to those that existed their previously. Second, The follow on immigrants, from mainland Europe did the same thing. Why are their large numbers of Italian speaking communities, Russian speaking communities "little Italies" and so on and so forth? They keep their identity without adapting to the Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture that predominated. Catholics were persecuted heavily, why? because they didn't adapt to the Protestant mainstream culture. Italians and Polish immigrants were likewise mistreated.

You're falsely identifying these immigrants, solely on race, as being "different" than any other immigrant in the world that came to the US. Which is ridiculous to claim, considering the US history and identity. Which is emblazed on the statue of liberty, no less.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Geneviev wrote:At least most people don't think like that.


Thank god. I'd already be living on mars if they did

For good reason.

Saiwania wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:You can't just redefine terms...

an invasion isn't the same as immigration. Immigration policies that allow for people to immigrate, work, live, become citizens etc for almost any nation there is. Secondly, perhaps the immigrants would be more willing to vote right, especially those from socially conservative nations, if the right wasn't so diabolically opposed to them being there and their race...


Wanting to allow your own country to change from within, to not stand up for or defend your own national culture, heritage, etc. takes a lot away from the entire point of being Conservative. That is tantamount to willful neglect on an individual level. The right by definition, isn't comprised of Globalists. At least definitely not the rank and file. A core purpose of any right wing movement is Nationalism.

If you're American, you're not even from a "white" country.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:37 pm

There was a period of US history from 1920 to around 1970 where there was few to no immigration to the US from non-White countries, and I'd argue that this was more of a golden age we should be moving back to.

The Statue of Liberty is no excuse to just allow in any riff raff that wants in. I'm a bigger fan of what Trump's administration has done in their "Golden Visa" concept. If it goes to the highest bidder, at least in exchange for giving them citizenship, the US gets a nice chunk of their preexisting financial fortune and as such- it is limited to an acceptably low number of people if it is limited to primarily the richest from overseas.
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Postby NewLakotah » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:44 pm

Saiwania wrote:There was a period of US history from 1920 to around 1970 where there was few to no immigration to the US from non-White countries, and I'd argue that this was more of a golden age we should be moving back to.

The Statue of Liberty is no excuse to just allow in any riff raff that wants in. I'm a bigger fan of what Trump's administration has done in their "Golden Visa" concept. If it goes to the highest bidder, at least in exchange for giving them citizenship, the US gets a nice chunk of their preexisting financial fortune and as such- it is limited to an acceptably low number of people if it is limited to primarily the richest from overseas.

So then it does only boil down to race then? That’s the reason why you fail to gain support from non whites. Hell, I would be closer to being conservative than not. But the right core that you are pushing causes me to go left, as I don’t get to be apart of your “utopia”. Not to mention, the US has a massive demographics problem. Only allowing very wealthy into the US isn’t going to help that much. The economy simply won’t be able to handle it.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:55 pm

NewLakotah wrote:Not to mention, the US has a massive demographics problem. Only allowing very wealthy into the US isn’t going to help that much. The economy simply won’t be able to handle it.


I would prefer for the US economy to shrink, than to allow for its majority population to change. A poorer country should theoretically correlate to higher birth rates temporarily, and the more depressed an economy is, the more growth opportunities there are in the long term. Just like how the best time to buy stock shares is when the price is at rock bottom- if you have enough certainty that the company won't go bankrupt.
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NewLakotah wrote:Not to mention, the US has a massive demographics problem. Only allowing very wealthy into the US isn’t going to help that much. The economy simply won’t be able to handle it.


I would prefer for the US economy to shrink, than to allow for its majority population to change. A poorer country should theoretically correlate to higher birth rates temporarily, and the more depressed an economy is, the more growth opportunities there are in the long term. Just like how the best time to buy stock shares is when the price is at rock bottom- if you have enough certainty that the company won't go bankrupt.

By this logic, investors should be pouring into Somalia.
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