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What is your racial background/identity?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm

White or Caucasian: European
283
65%
White or Caucasian: MENA
10
2%
East Asian (Japan to Indonesia)
32
7%
South Asian (Pakistan to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka)
13
3%
Black or African
12
3%
Latino/Latin American
19
4%
Native American
6
1%
Pacific Islander
1
0%
Mixed/Other (non-white)
6
1%
Mixed/Other (part-white)
55
13%
 
Total votes : 437

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:00 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Tbh, you immediately lost credibility at "good advice." This is Saiwania you're talking about, you know.

He doesn't seem too bad of a guy. I think he is quite logical to his arguements

You clearly haven't read his arguments, then.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:05 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Slavakino wrote:He doesn't seem too bad of a guy. I think he is quite logical to his arguements

You clearly haven't read his arguments, then.


Sai thinks that no violence or abuse is unjustified in the personal quest for dominance. His arguments are darwinian as hell
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Postby Slavakino » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:09 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Anyone can be hated on, freedom of speech. But I dont like the idea of violence


Saiwana has a right to hate black people, but it's still wrong. I'm sure he would disagree with me here but black folks deserve to be treated like other people

You can hate blacks but they should not be less equal to any other man or woman. In the current world developed nations already have equality with each race or sex. But of course there other nations that dont give rights or oppress those which I do not agree with.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:11 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Saiwana has a right to hate black people, but it's still wrong. I'm sure he would disagree with me here but black folks deserve to be treated like other people

You can hate blacks but they should not be less equal to any other man or woman. In the current world developed nations already have equality with each race or sex. But of course there other nations that dont give rights or oppress those which I do not agree with.


And sai doesn't think every one should have equal rights. I don't think sai wants to kill me, but I do think he would like to see me get sent to a separate nation in his dream of a white ethnostate. That isn't equality
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:20 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:You clearly haven't read his arguments, then.


Sai thinks that no violence or abuse is unjustified in the personal quest for dominance. His arguments are darwinian as hell

No they aren't. They're based on a heavily corrupted version of natural selection, not the actual Darwinian theory.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:23 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Sai thinks that no violence or abuse is unjustified in the personal quest for dominance. His arguments are darwinian as hell

No they aren't. They're based on a heavily corrupted version of natural selection, not the actual Darwinian theory.


I don't mean they're actually based on real darwinism. They're Darwinian in that there is no morality or higher reasoning to them. It's just kill or be killed. It's a view of the world as an endless war for dominance and power
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:27 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If you think that white people as a group are more privileged on average them you would be right

White people as individuals though do not all have privilege and telling a poor white guy that he has privilege, especially if you yourself are doing far better in life than he is, is beyond tone deaf.

Privilege doesn't mean you have to be doing better in every aspect than somebody who doesn't share that specific privilege. It means essentially that he would likely have better luck than a black person with the exact same factors otherwise at getting his life on track.


^This. White privilege generally doesn’t trump class or educational privilege (there are specific exceptions) but it’s definitely a thing in the US. It’s more obvious in blue states that have a high number of nonwhites, and where the whites tend to be better off and more educated. It’s also manifested in more subte ways in the entertainment industry, particularly with how biracial actors/entertainers are often taken to represent their non-white race in diversity casting.

I guess RFS was mostly right on the racial breakup of NSG, even if his numbers were off.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:46 pm

Write-in: Northumbrian.
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Postby The Holy Sun » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:49 pm

South Asian. To be more specific Bengali

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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Write-in: Northumbrian.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:09 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Write-in: Northumbrian.

Ah yes a Northumbrian race. Umm, what is the difference with your average White European if it's okay for me to ask?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:17 pm

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:26 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Write-in: Northumbrian.

Ah yes a Northumbrian race. Umm, what is the difference with your average White European if it's okay for me to ask?


Better accent
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:27 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Privilege doesn't mean you have to be doing better in every aspect than somebody who doesn't share that specific privilege. It means essentially that he would likely have better luck than a black person with the exact same factors otherwise at getting his life on track.


^This. White privilege generally doesn’t trump class or educational privilege (there are specific exceptions) but it’s definitely a thing in the US. It’s more obvious in blue states that have a high number of nonwhites, and where the whites tend to be better off and more educated. It’s also manifested in more subte ways in the entertainment industry, particularly with how biracial actors/entertainers are often taken to represent their non-white race in diversity casting.

I guess RFS was mostly right on the racial breakup of NSG, even if his numbers were off.


To be fair, biracial actors are often cast as non white because many look non white. A very white looking man with a black dad wouldn't be cast as black, but a man who looks like a light skinned black man would.

In the end, we can say that whites on average are more privileged than back or brown people, but I wouldn't say that goes for an individual level too
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Heloin » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:17 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Ah yes a Northumbrian race. Umm, what is the difference with your average White European if it's okay for me to ask?


Better accent

I don't think the Geordie accent is a source of pride.

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Postby Samadhi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:18 pm

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:42 pm

Heloin wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Better accent

I don't think the Geordie accent is a source of pride.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:44 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Write-in: Northumbrian.

jesus fucking christ

?

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Write-in: Northumbrian.

Ah yes a Northumbrian race. Umm, what is the difference with your average White European if it's okay for me to ask?

I don't have much time for race, so idk I've never bothered to think about it
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:28 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:jesus fucking christ

?

You just can't stop going on about Northumbrian nationalist shit. Give it a rest.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:39 pm

literally everyone else on the forum: goes on about political shit constantly
me, a Northumbrian nationalist: mentions Northumbria once
people who are not Northumbrian nationalists:

Cekoviu wrote:You just can't stop going on about Northumbrian nationalist shit. Give it a rest.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:42 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:literally everyone else on the forum: goes on about political shit constantly
me, a Northumbrian nationalist: mentions Northumbria once
people who are not Northumbrian nationalists:

Cekoviu wrote:You just can't stop going on about Northumbrian nationalist shit. Give it a rest.

It's just that your pet issue is a really bizarre and niche one as opposed to the general candidates (abortion, guns, feminism, race, etc).
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:43 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:literally everyone else on the forum: goes on about political shit constantly
me, a Northumbrian nationalist: mentions Northumbria once
people who are not Northumbrian nationalists:


It's just that your pet issue is a really bizarre and niche one as opposed to the general candidates (abortion, guns, feminism, race, etc).

I'm sure the vast majority of people would say the same thing about the issues you and everyone else talk about
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:literally everyone else on the forum: goes on about political shit constantly
me, a Northumbrian nationalist: mentions Northumbria once
people who are not Northumbrian nationalists:


It's just that your pet issue is a really bizarre and niche one as opposed to the general candidates (abortion, guns, feminism, race, etc).


I understand the Irish nationalists desire to separate northern Ireland from the UK, but northumbrian nationalism? What is the northumbrian nation exactly? The Irish have a language and a culture and history but northumbria is just english.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:56 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It's just that your pet issue is a really bizarre and niche one as opposed to the general candidates (abortion, guns, feminism, race, etc).


I understand the Irish nationalists desire to separate northern Ireland from the UK, but northumbrian nationalism? What is the northumbrian nation exactly? The Irish have a language and a culture and history but northumbria is just english.

Almost nobody actually speaks Irish and yeah Northumbria does have a culture and a history
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