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by Major-Tom » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:34 pm
Xmara wrote:Conclusion I reached from this thread: race is stupidly complicated.
by Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:37 pm
Pasong Tirad wrote:> East Asian
> Japan to Indonesia
What. No. Southeast Asians are not the same as East Asians.
But anyway, almost fully Filipino. Either 1/8th or 1/16th Spanish ancestry, with some smaller bits of Chinese and - according to family - British in there somewhere.
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by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:12 am
Look, you are generalizing again.First of all, you must admit that there may be people of Slavic origin from any religion and Yes, Yugoslavia should be established again,a social democratic nationalist yugoslaviaSlavakino wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Serbian nationalists are different than just serbs. I mean people who think serbia is so amazing that other people around them need to be shot.
Serb Nationalists are 90% boomers who taught their children how the Ustase and Muslims are evil and should be massacred. Of course, I do not agree with these people, we should revive Yugoslavia and relive Brotherhood and Unity.
One of them is mineNakena wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
They. Are. Not. Turks. We've already gone over how both genetic tests and linguistics prove that bosnians are South slavs
Indeed.
Alot of turks have however south slavic ancestry.
Daily reminder that ethnicity in the Ottoman Empire was defined by religious affiliation.
by USS Monitor » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 am
Maldegem wrote:My race is a car race.
by The Andromeda Archipelago » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:36 am
by Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:18 am
Major-Tom wrote:Xmara wrote:Conclusion I reached from this thread: race is stupidly complicated.
Shouldn't be. I get it if someone has a complicated time reaching their respective cultural identity, fine. But race? Jesus Christ, I know I can be obnoxiously simplistic at times, but the answer should be quite obvious? Look in the mirror, look at your family, and then decide if you're X, Y or Z. And then don't argue about semantics regarding race with strangers on the internet.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
> literally all NS nations that controlled the entire Earth ever, said in every place in NS possible, in every second since Max Barry created NationStates
by Chestaan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:42 am
Bear Stearns wrote:I've noticed that nationalism in Europe is usually "we're going to conquer you", nationalism in the third world is "oppressor go home", and nationalism in the North America is "we want to isolate ourselves from the world and be left alone".
by Chestaan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:47 am
Major-Tom wrote:Xmara wrote:Conclusion I reached from this thread: race is stupidly complicated.
Shouldn't be. I get it if someone has a complicated time reaching their respective cultural identity, fine. But race? Jesus Christ, I know I can be obnoxiously simplistic at times, but the answer should be quite obvious? Look in the mirror, look at your family, and then decide if you're X, Y or Z. And then don't argue about semantics regarding race with strangers on the internet.
by Saiwania » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:58 am
Chestaan wrote:Race isn't just skin colour though, it's tied in with cultural identity and a myriad of factors. Just look at all the wars, in Europe or in other regions, where people with the same skin colour fought wars over race. Or look at Jews, who are considered a separate race and have varying skin colours. Only in America does skin colour seem to equate to race and unfortunately this simplistic approach is extended to other countries when it shouldn't be.
by Chestaan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:28 am
Saiwania wrote:Chestaan wrote:Race isn't just skin colour though, it's tied in with cultural identity and a myriad of factors. Just look at all the wars, in Europe or in other regions, where people with the same skin colour fought wars over race. Or look at Jews, who are considered a separate race and have varying skin colours. Only in America does skin colour seem to equate to race and unfortunately this simplistic approach is extended to other countries when it shouldn't be.
It perhaps should, if people like American culture enough to voluntarily follow it to some extent. The US is a cultural and media powerhouse, so most countries that're at least somewhat modern gets exposed to it. Lots of people wind up still liking it to embrace different aspects of it. Most countries overseas don't completely abandon their native culture, but do get some influence from whichever country has the most power, clout, or whatever on the world stage or if they're in a particular sphere of influence.
People complain about the American way but the truth of the matter is that people in overseas countries are free to reject it. They don't because generally speaking, American culture is still popular enough to be embraced. What is not to like about race being tied to skin color? It is arguably what is most rational and straightforward.
During the time of slavery, there were no better slaves than Black people from the perspective of a White society- because if one ran away from their owner or a plantation, they'd be spotted no matter where they went because of their darker skin. So it'd be all the more harder for them to make it to Canada or somewhere where they won't be intercepted and possibly returned to the status of a slave. There was no ability for them of blending into any crowd of people.
by Barboneia » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:53 am
by Cekoviu » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am
Napkizemlja wrote:Slavakino wrote:I said bosnian muslims are not slavs as they are turkish than slav
Bosniaks are genetically closest to Croatians and Serbs, followed by other Southeast European populations, especially Hungarians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosniaks#Genetics. Linguistically as well, since Bosnian is a South Slavic language. It's quite likely that the Serb and Croat populations in Bosnia were actually Bosnians who didn't convert to Islam and then began to identify with either the Croats or Serbs based upon the branch of Christianity they adhered to. The Bosniaks were originally Christian as well, before undergoing a massive conversion after the Ottoman conquest.
by Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:33 pm
Alanis Star wrote:Southeast Asian!
by Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:24 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Napkizemlja wrote:Bosniaks are genetically closest to Croatians and Serbs, followed by other Southeast European populations, especially Hungarians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosniaks#Genetics. Linguistically as well, since Bosnian is a South Slavic language. It's quite likely that the Serb and Croat populations in Bosnia were actually Bosnians who didn't convert to Islam and then began to identify with either the Croats or Serbs based upon the branch of Christianity they adhered to. The Bosniaks were originally Christian as well, before undergoing a massive conversion after the Ottoman conquest.
Bosnian isn't just a South Slavic language, it's literally a dialect cluster under Serbo-Croatian.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:31 pm
Chestaan wrote:Saiwania wrote:
It perhaps should, if people like American culture enough to voluntarily follow it to some extent. The US is a cultural and media powerhouse, so most countries that're at least somewhat modern gets exposed to it. Lots of people wind up still liking it to embrace different aspects of it. Most countries overseas don't completely abandon their native culture, but do get some influence from whichever country has the most power, clout, or whatever on the world stage or if they're in a particular sphere of influence.
People complain about the American way but the truth of the matter is that people in overseas countries are free to reject it. They don't because generally speaking, American culture is still popular enough to be embraced. What is not to like about race being tied to skin color? It is arguably what is most rational and straightforward.
During the time of slavery, there were no better slaves than Black people from the perspective of a White society- because if one ran away from their owner or a plantation, they'd be spotted no matter where they went because of their darker skin. So it'd be all the more harder for them to make it to Canada or somewhere where they won't be intercepted and possibly returned to the status of a slave. There was no ability for them of blending into any crowd of people.
People in Europe and elsewhere follow America on a lot of things, but not on race. Serbs and Croats murdered each other over race, many Catalans and Basque people see themselves as different to other Spanish people. When I said the simplistic approach is extended to other countries I meant that Americans assumed it was the same in other countries.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Slavakino » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:31 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Look, you are generalizing again.First of all, you must admit that there may be people of Slavic origin from any religion and Yes, Yugoslavia should be established again,a social democratic nationalist yugoslaviaSlavakino wrote:Serb Nationalists are 90% boomers who taught their children how the Ustase and Muslims are evil and should be massacred. Of course, I do not agree with these people, we should revive Yugoslavia and relive Brotherhood and Unity.
by Ayytaly » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:38 pm
by Rojava Free State » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:44 pm
Ayytaly wrote:Latino is not a race. Latino is a cultural identity stemming from Iberian colonialism. Filipinos and Equatorial Guineans have as much claim as their American counterparts. Semantically, it's too ambiguous a term.
Also, not all Caucasians are "white". Hell, not every European is white either (see: Italians.) The OP needs to do their homework first before obstensibly making a race thread just for internet drama.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Saiwania » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:54 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:If by white we mean light brown to red or blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin then yeah, a lot of Europe isn't white.
by Ayytaly » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:00 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Ayytaly wrote:Latino is not a race. Latino is a cultural identity stemming from Iberian colonialism. Filipinos and Equatorial Guineans have as much claim as their American counterparts. Semantically, it's too ambiguous a term.
Also, not all Caucasians are "white". Hell, not every European is white either (see: Italians.) The OP needs to do their homework first before obstensibly making a race thread just for internet drama.
If by white we mean light brown to red or blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin then yeah, a lot of Europe isn't white.
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