[POLL] What is your race? Sept 2019 edition

[Cekoviu]

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You're Romanian?

[Napkizemlja]

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You're Romanian?

The Romanian flag is a darker blue.

[Cekoviu]

You're Romanian?

The Romanian flag is a darker blue.

'twas facetious, my dude.

[Neanderthaland]

Err... let's say European.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

Practically all central/western Europe. My first ancestors to cross the Atlantic and stay were mostly living (prior to travelling) in Bavaria, bordering German states, Austria, and Brandenburg. I know this thanks to an aunt to traced one side back to Europe, and discovered that we are descended from both of the two brothers who came over who bore the last name, as are all of their descendants...

[Kanadorika]

Anglo-Hispano. The Spanish side of my family has lived in New Mexico since the 1500s and I'm descended from some rather well known conquistadors and explorers. Sadly the Spanish language skipped my generation, which is a shame because New Mexican Spanish is archaic and awesome as hell.

The Anglo side of my family came from England (duh). I'm not as knowledgeably about this side of the family and its not as documented, but I can trace it to the 1600s. Direct ancestor of mine was a lieutenant in the revolution.

Basically, I look white AF, but I'm Hispanic. Just not Latino.

[Chestaan]

I don't really think race is a very informative category in these broad categories. Like just consider the diversity of all those groups.

[Paradeavenlisian States]

I'm pretty much mixed race and I'm half African and half European;more specifically half Irish and half Ugandan. The Irish side of my family originated from the Connacht and Ulster regions of the island of Ireland and it can be traced as early as the 10 or 11th centuries. As for the Ugandan side, I don't know about that side as much but I'm guessing it originated from the Buganda region and there are some relatives from nearby Rwanda and Burundi. In addition, I'm related to a former Ugandan prime minister. Despite being half African and half Irish though, I kind of look more African than Irish.

[The Alma Mater]

I don't really think race is a very informative category in these broad categories. Like just consider the diversity of all those groups.

Remember: race is a social construct. It has no meaning in biology when applied to humans.
So we can define it however we wish

[Slavakino]

Slav, enough said

[Antidawetid]

Slav, enough said

Your nation looks like it’s based on former Yugoslavia. Maybe you’re also from there?

[The Imperium Empires]

Im significantly european in descent but I also have a large thai ancestry, enough that Im not exceptionally pale.

[Nea Videssos]

Well, not exactly the biggest fan of the whole "race-as-defined-by-skin-colour" form of categorisation, since I view it as a rather arbitrary construct. As for ancestry, well, I'm half English and half Scottish. According to LivingDNA, this is my genetic ancestry (FYI, the 1.1% South Central Asian comes up as "unassigned" on the standard and cautious estimates):

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

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You're Romanian?

Turkish,​​Slavic,Latin,Chinese,Scandinavian I mixed the colors of your troops

[Rojava Free State]

Im significantly european in descent but I also have a large thai ancestry, enough that Im not exceptionally pale.

I mean not all Europeans are pale. Some Germans are kinda swarthy and italians, greeks, spaniards, portugese, macedonians, albanians, bulgarians, and Romanians can have dark skin, so there's that. I know what you probably mean though.

[Geneviev]

I'm an unusually pale German. I don't think there's anything else in my ancestry.

[Chestaan]

Also is Hispanic really a separate category? Like wouldn't Spanish and Portguese people be considered Hispanic? But also white?

[Rojava Free State]

Also is Hispanic really a separate category? Like wouldn't Spanish and Portguese people be considered Hispanic? But also white?

Depends on the social definition. Americans still can't get straight who is white and who isnt, but yes, Spanish and Portuguese people and many (honestly most) Latin Americans are a majority Caucasian in descent. Shit, the Spanish and Portuguese aren't even possibly mixed with native Americans, so they're definitely europeans.

[Chestaan]

Also is Hispanic really a separate category? Like wouldn't Spanish and Portguese people be considered Hispanic? But also white?

Depends on the social definition. Americans still can't get straight who is white and who isnt, but yes, Spanish and Portuguese people and many (honestly most) Latin Americans are a majority Caucasian in descent. Shit, the Spanish and Portuguese aren't even possibly mixed with native Americans, so they're definitely europeans.

Yeah it seems that way. It's a strange term in that if the person in question is mostly of Iberian descent they would be considered white and if they are of mixed or native descent why bother to reference the Spanish part in Hispanic.

American view of race really baffles me anyway. White people generally referred to as one monolithic group, as are Africans and Asians. I once saw a post on Facebook claiming that if a person is white they have not right to talk about racism. Yeah, sure, all those white people who lost their family to genocide in the Yugoslav wars or the Irish who were burned out of their homes in Northern Ireland have nor right to talk about racism.

[Rojava Free State]

Depends on the social definition. Americans still can't get straight who is white and who isnt, but yes, Spanish and Portuguese people and many (honestly most) Latin Americans are a majority Caucasian in descent. Shit, the Spanish and Portuguese aren't even possibly mixed with native Americans, so they're definitely europeans.

Yeah it seems that way. It's a strange term in that if the person in question is mostly of Iberian descent they would be considered white and if they are of mixed or native descent why bother to reference the Spanish part in Hispanic.

American view of race really baffles me anyway. White people generally referred to as one monolithic group, as are Africans and Asians. I once saw a post on Facebook claiming that if a person is white they have not right to talk about racism. Yeah, sure, all those white people who lost their family to genocide in the Yugoslav wars or the Irish who were burned out of their homes in Northern Ireland have nor right to talk about racism.

Yeah, about the yugoslav wars. We live in a society where Albanians and Bosnians aren't white because most of them are Muslim

Yes yall, Muslims can't be white I guess, even though you got people from the middle East itself who look like Italians or greeks who are white. God, our idea of race is so weird here. I don't consider myself white because not only am I outside the social definition but I'm literally not white colored. My skin is brown. I do consider myself to be Caucasian though, like any european, middle easterner or North African

[Saiwania]

Depends on the social definition. Americans still can't get straight who is white and who isnt, but yes, Spanish and Portuguese people and many (honestly most) Latin Americans are a majority Caucasian in descent.

The vast majority of people from Latin and South America aren't White because of the native American ancestry they have. Same for people from the former territories of the Spanish and Portugese empires as opposed to Spain and Portugal proper.

[Rojava Free State]

Depends on the social definition. Americans still can't get straight who is white and who isnt, but yes, Spanish and Portuguese people and many (honestly most) Latin Americans are a majority Caucasian in descent.

The vast majority of people from Latin and South America aren't White because of the native American ancestry they have. Same for people from the former territories of the Spanish and Portugese empires as opposed to Spain and Portugal proper.

If you're majority Caucasian then you're caucasian. We don't refer to black Americans as mulattos, so I don't see why a person who is 72% Spanish should be called mestizo.

[Saiwania]

If you're majority Caucasian then you're caucasian. We don't refer to black Americans as mulattos, so I don't see why a person who is 72% Spanish should be called mestizo.

They should be considered as such if they can't pass as White visually speaking. What matters in the long run, is whether their genetics will give their baby Whiter or darker skin. It is no use to the White race is the offspring will be darker than before because of their ancestry. Just as it'd be no good for an Asian if a baby became darker upon conception because of a Black sexual partner.

[Rojava Free State]

If you're majority Caucasian then you're caucasian. We don't refer to black Americans as mulattos, so I don't see why a person who is 72% Spanish should be called mestizo.

They should be considered as such if they can't pass as White visually speaking. What matters in the long run, is whether their genetics will give their baby Whiter or darker skin. It is no use to the White race is the offspring will be darker than before because of their ancestry. Just as it'd be no good for an Asian if a baby became darker upon conception because of a Black sexual partner.

when you say dark, how dark are you talking? Cause there are pure blooded Europeans will dark skin my guy. Half the sicilians in my area have the same skin tone as a light skin black man.

You yourself once said race isn't about physical appearance alone, which was why in your eyes a Syrian who looks literally the same as a Greek is not white.

[Pacomia]

If you're majority Caucasian then you're caucasian. We don't refer to black Americans as mulattos, so I don't see why a person who is 72% Spanish should be called mestizo.

They should be considered as such if they can't pass as White visually speaking. What matters in the long run, is whether their genetics will give their baby Whiter or darker skin. It is no use to the White race is the offspring will be darker than before because of their ancestry. Just as it'd be no good for an Asian if a baby became darker upon conception because of a Black sexual partner.

As an Asian, I can confirm that it would make no difference if my baby was darker than me.