SF declares NRA a terrorist organization

[Satuga]

This is uhhhh.... Incredibly stupid and a defamation lawsuit in the making.

[The Grims]

Also, again, i'd like to point out that socialism is incompatible with gun control. You're practically giving the capitalists the "A-OK" on declaring open season on your comrades.

As mentioned, Marx wanted workers to own and use guns.

[Diopolis]

Oh good fucking grief.

When a second amendment fan club being criminalized is akin to a gang of thugs being labelled terrorists. Antifa is totally different than the NRA. The NRA likes guns. Antifa likes to fight people

That just makes them hooligans.

[Ifreann]

Unnecessarily using "eradication" to deal when jail will do? Not suspicious at all.

You know you can eradicate a group without killing them or unjustly detaining random people, right? The only place antifa belongs is the county jail, unless your city is okay with entire streets of broken windows, people fighting in the middle of downtown, dumpster fires and bike locks being used for purposes they werent designed for

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

[Diopolis]

You know you can eradicate a group without killing them or unjustly detaining random people, right? The only place antifa belongs is the county jail, unless your city is okay with entire streets of broken windows, people fighting in the middle of downtown, dumpster fires and bike locks being used for purposes they werent designed for

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

Hitting someone with a bike lock is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a fairly serious crime.

[Gormwood]

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

Hitting someone with a bike lock is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a fairly serious crime.

How does that "eradicate" a movement if only a handful of people are put away at best?

[Ifreann]

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

Hitting someone with a bike lock is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a fairly serious crime.

Like I said, depends on how exactly you do the crime.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You know you can eradicate a group without killing them or unjustly detaining random people, right? The only place antifa belongs is the county jail, unless your city is okay with entire streets of broken windows, people fighting in the middle of downtown, dumpster fires and bike locks being used for purposes they werent designed for

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

You heavily up the punishments for street violence at rallies and such things and retrain police to actually arrest people instead of just sitting around wasting money doing nothing.

[Alvecia]

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

You heavily up the punishments for street violence at rallies and such things and retrain police to actually arrest people instead of just sitting around wasting money doing nothing.

Your honor, my client was greater than 100 meters away from the location of the rally, and therefore cannot be reasonably assumed to have been taking part in it.

[Ifreann]

Explain to me how you eradicate antifa solely through the just and fair application of the law.

See, damaging property, depending on how exactly you do it, isn't a serious crime. If I smashed the window of a Starbucks with a bin, odds are I'd be looking at a fine, maybe a jail sentence measured in days. If I was doing this as part of some larger political movement, me with a lighter wallet or 30 days on ice isn't going to eradicate it. Same with assault. That's more serious than property damage, sure, but decking someone isn't going to see me behind bars for life unless I literally punch their head off, and me doing a few months for decking a Nazi wouldn't stop antifa rallies from going on. And most of the people you're talking about haven't even done either of those things, or couldn't be convicted of doing them for lack of evidence. Crowd of a thousand people do not all collectively break the law when a few among them smash a window or throw a punch. How do you "eradicate via jail" a thousand people when you could only fairly get ten convictions, and those convictions only warrant short sentences?

You heavily up the punishments for street violence at rallies and such things

Clearly unjust and unfair.

and retrain police to actually arrest people instead of just sitting around wasting money doing nothing.

Hundreds of people were arrested in protests at Trump's inauguration. None were convicted.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Clearly unjust and unfair.

Who decides what's unfair and unjust?

Hundreds of people were arrested in protests at Trump's inauguration. None were convicted.

A shame really.

[Gormwood]

Hundreds of people were arrested in protests at Trump's inauguration. None were convicted.

A shame really.

Why do you hate due process?

[Ifreann]

Clearly unjust and unfair.

Who decides what's unfair and unjust?

Me. I do. I will make my services available to the United States for a very reasonable price.

Hundreds of people were arrested in protests at Trump's inauguration. None were convicted.

A shame really.

I agree, though I expect for very different reasons.

[Nakena]

With proper tactics police could easily grab and single out some of the more troublesome antifa individuals. lol

At least they havent pulled yet stuff like setting a whole City on fire as they did during G20 in Hamburg.

[Washington Resistance Army]

A shame really.

Why do you hate due process?

What can I say, Beto inspired me to want to take peoples due process ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Ifreann]

With proper tactics police could easily grab and single out some of the more troublesome antifa individuals. lol

Yes, the police can effectively arrest specific individuals from large crowds. But that person will not necessarily be convicted, if they are they may not get a very long sentence, and either way there's still the hundreds of other people who aren't getting arrested who can come back tomorrow and have another rally.

[Gormwood]

Why do you hate due process?

What can I say, Beto inspired me to want to take peoples due process ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

All of a sudden you value what Beto says. Convenient and cute.

[Chernoslavia]

What can I say, Beto inspired me to want to take peoples due process ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

All of a sudden you value what Beto says. Convenient and cute.

We can say the same for you guys about red flag laws.

[Gormwood]

All of a sudden you value what Beto says. Convenient and cute.

We can say the same for you guys about red flag laws.

What was it again? Oh right, "Whataboutism is an admission of guilt, not an excuse."

[The Emerald Legion]

How do you stop Antifa legally? You RICO them to take their associates money.

[Alvecia]

How do you stop Antifa legally? You RICO them to take their associates money.

Are they even organised enough for that to be reasonably effective?

[Ifreann]

How do you stop Antifa legally? You RICO them to take their associates money.

You can't RICO them, though.

[Gormwood]

How do you stop Antifa legally? You RICO them to take their associates money.

So who's the don and capos of Antifa?

[Proctopeo]

We can say the same for you guys about red flag laws.

What was it again? Oh right, "Whataboutism is an admission of guilt, not an excuse."

Glass houses, Gauth.

[Gormwood]

What was it again? Oh right, "Whataboutism is an admission of guilt, not an excuse."

Glass houses, Gauth.

Still not an excuse. :^]