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Will the more moderate leftists ever awaken to the insidious, authoritarian group among them?

Yes, in time.
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No, they are too established in their views, and don't care enough.
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Unsure.
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No, because no one's trying to take away guns!
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Yes, and they will come around to agree with the far left in that guns should be banned!
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:42 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I mean, conservatives in the US go around labeling every small, broad left-wing group as terroristic, so if SF wants to label an organization that facilitates and is complicit in large-scale gun violence as a dangerous group, so be it.

It's more intellectually honest then saying some asinine, truly moronic shit like "SPLC are terrorists" or my personal favorite "ANTIFA = Fascists!"

SPLC is a hate group, not a terrorist one. The NRA teaches responsible gun ownership. One dogwhistles and turns people against each other, one tries to keep people safe.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:47 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
It's almost like...

Ifreann wrote:I'm comparing gun free zones to gun free zones



Telconi wrote:
Why do car bombings only happen at military checkpoints in Iraq? There are military checkpoints in America.

Car bombings don't only happen at military checkpoints in Iraq.


Telconi wrote:
Where was this claim made?

Grinning Dragon wrote:Gun free zone = Advertisement that everyone is defenseless and and all you can shoot buffet.
After all 98% off all the mass shootings are done in GFZ.



Novus America wrote:
A gun free zone bans civilians from having any guns.
You do not understand what a gun free zone is.

The police are civilians.

And nobody claimed gun free zones are the cause of mass shootings anyways.

Grinning Dragon wrote:Gun free zone = Advertisement that everyone is defenseless and and all you can shoot buffet.
After all 98% off all the mass shootings are done in GFZ.

*clears throat*

Wrong.
In general, a civilian is "a person who is not a member of the military or of a police or firefighting force".
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
It's almost like...

Ifreann wrote:I'm comparing gun free zones to gun free zones



Telconi wrote:
Why do car bombings only happen at military checkpoints in Iraq? There are military checkpoints in America.

Car bombings don't only happen at military checkpoints in Iraq.


Telconi wrote:
Where was this claim made?

Grinning Dragon wrote:Gun free zone = Advertisement that everyone is defenseless and and all you can shoot buffet.
After all 98% off all the mass shootings are done in GFZ.



Novus America wrote:
A gun free zone bans civilians from having any guns.
You do not understand what a gun free zone is.

The police are civilians.

And nobody claimed gun free zones are the cause of mass shootings anyways.

Grinning Dragon wrote:Gun free zone = Advertisement that everyone is defenseless and and all you can shoot buffet.
After all 98% off all the mass shootings are done in GFZ.


A reasonable person could ascertain the context of Grinning Dragon's statement and realize that it was a statement specific to occurrences in the United States. Secondly, his statement never alluded that gun free zones were the cause, only the preferred targets.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm

Thepeopl wrote:As a Dutch person, I can tell you that we don't allow guns. Only registered hunters, sportshooters and police are allowed to carry/ own a gun. And only police can carry a gun in public.
Farmers are allowed to have air guns to kill pests like hare, rats and pigeons.

We don't have random, multiple shootings. Only criminals
who accidentally shoot civilians, but most are liquidations of the criminals.
We don't shoot our house mates when they return late at night and we mistake them for burglars.

I have a pretty good aim, irl, on fairs I ll win the prizes which I want, I hit those pesky hares/ pigeons.
But I don't have guns in my house, since I no longer live on the farm.

So listen to those extreme lefties, get rid of those guns.

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The Netherlands was never as dangerous as America in recent times, long before gun control was even a thing. When you actually look at countries where violent crime was out of control such as Venezuela and Honduras and brazil, gun control failed.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:53 pm

I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:20 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:



Car bombings don't only happen at military checkpoints in Iraq.







The police are civilians.



*clears throat*

Wrong.
In general, a civilian is "a person who is not a member of the military or of a police or firefighting force".

Of course it would be Merriam-Webster.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:28 pm

Thepeopl wrote:As a Dutch person, I can tell you that we don't allow guns. Only registered hunters, sportshooters and police are allowed to carry/ own a gun. And only police can carry a gun in public.
Farmers are allowed to have air guns to kill pests like hare, rats and pigeons.

We don't have random, multiple shootings. Only criminals
who accidentally shoot civilians, but most are liquidations of the criminals.
We don't shoot our house mates when they return late at night and we mistake them for burglars.

I have a pretty good aim, irl, on fairs I ll win the prizes which I want, I hit those pesky hares/ pigeons.
But I don't have guns in my house, since I no longer live on the farm.

So listen to those extreme lefties, get rid of those guns.

https://injury.research.chop.edu/violen ... Xvul1NcKdM


Yeah, no thanks. I'm pretty content with my fully semi automatic weapon of mass assault and my high capacity clipazines, thank you very much.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:30 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:As a Dutch person, I can tell you that we don't allow guns. Only registered hunters, sportshooters and police are allowed to carry/ own a gun. And only police can carry a gun in public.
Farmers are allowed to have air guns to kill pests like hare, rats and pigeons.

We don't have random, multiple shootings. Only criminals
who accidentally shoot civilians, but most are liquidations of the criminals.
We don't shoot our house mates when they return late at night and we mistake them for burglars.

I have a pretty good aim, irl, on fairs I ll win the prizes which I want, I hit those pesky hares/ pigeons.
But I don't have guns in my house, since I no longer live on the farm.

So listen to those extreme lefties, get rid of those guns.

https://injury.research.chop.edu/violen ... Xvul1NcKdM


Yeah, no thanks.

It's "tiny, mostly homogenous country pretends their situation is 100% comparable to the US" part 2.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:31 pm

Redternetia wrote:The "Far Left" doesn't want to take away guns. As a "far-leftist" myself, I advocate for arming all working people. San Francisco isn't a leftwing city of any sort. It's an American capitalist city, just like any other American city like Columbus, NYC, or Carson, except SF has a lot more gentrification going on (you know, what literally pushes poor people out of the city).

This. So much this. "The Left" doesn't hate guns, the bourgeois Democrats do.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:32 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Yeah, no thanks.

It's "tiny, mostly homogenous country pretends their situation is 100% comparable to the US" part 2.

Yes, it is very rediculous.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:33 pm

The answer to solving gun crime in America is so ridiculously simple, I even made a function for it:

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:33 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, I'm taking about those who push for gun rights.

Such as the Redneck Revolt group?

Maybe. I don't know much about them.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:28 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen

It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:29 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen

It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.


We banned drugs, they still come through Mexico.

We ban guns, I'm sure the cartels will love this development.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.


We banned drugs, they still come through Mexico.

We ban guns, I'm sure the cartels will love this development.

The libs understand that when it comes to drugs, but many cannot seem to make the connection that banning guns is no different.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:41 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen

It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.

They're all major points of contention between the parties.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen

It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.

They are similar in one way. Banning them pushes them underground.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:43 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.

They're all major points of contention between the parties.

And?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:43 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
We banned drugs, they still come through Mexico.

We ban guns, I'm sure the cartels will love this development.

The libs understand that when it comes to drugs, but many cannot seem to make the connection that banning guns is no different.


More money for the Cartels, less guns for civilians, surely everyone wins.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:45 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They're all major points of contention between the parties.

And?

They also all involve complex issues that al can't be answered with,"Ban them!"
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:45 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The libs understand that when it comes to drugs, but many cannot seem to make the connection that banning guns is no different.


More money for the Cartels, less guns for civilians, surely everyone wins.

Reminds me of the Australian gun black market.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:45 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I love how republicans and democrats pick and choose which bans will and won't work. Democrats oppose the war on drugs but think a gun ban would work while republicans oppose taking guns away but often support banning abortion.

I don't think you can ban speech, guns, drugs or abortion, which is why I don't think we ought to fight these battles. You're never gonna successfully disarm Americans when there's more guns in this nation than people. It just won't happen

It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.


Yes they are. They are things people wanna ban but fail to actually stop

Abortion bans fail
Drug bans fail
Banning certain speech fails
Banning guns failed in Latin America
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:47 pm

"If you want to prevent abortions fix why people need abortions!"

Me: well if we helped fix the issue we have with mental health and gang violence we would solve much of gun violence t-

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:47 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It's almost like none of those are remotely similar.


Yes they are. They are things people wanna ban but fail to actually stop

Abortion bans fail
Drug bans fail
Banning certain speech fails
Banning guns failed in Latin America

That's the case with banning literally anything, up to and including murder and rape. That shows nothing.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Yes they are. They are things people wanna ban but fail to actually stop

Abortion bans fail
Drug bans fail
Banning certain speech fails
Banning guns failed in Latin America

That's the case with banning literally anything, up to and including murder and rape. That shows nothing.

You would say that abortion, drug use, free speech, and gun ownership are as bad as murder and rape then.
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