SF declares NRA a terrorist organization

[Telconi]

Listen. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I don't want to ban guns. However, the NRA should not be receiving any support by gun owners.
They knowingly let Russians trying to influence the 2016 election into the political circle of republicans, and one of them is in prison. They're also accused of tax fraud.
There are far better gun advocacy groups, and the NRA needs to die.

My bank has yet to call me and tell me I can only give money to one gun rights organization. And I'm not willing to let the better be the enemy of the good.

[Tekeristan]

What even are guns to suburbanites? They're like toys and tokens to say "I'm not emasculate / powerless! ", at least that's the way I view it.

[Telconi]

What even are guns to suburbanites? They're like toys and tokens to say "I'm not emasculate / powerless! ", at least that's the way I view it.

Same thing they are to everyone else, a weapon.

[The Alma Mater]

What even are guns to suburbanites? They're like toys and tokens to say "I'm not emasculate / powerless! ", at least that's the way I view it.

ah yes, the good old "gun owners must be compensating for something" with the usual touch of misandry thrown in.

get more original material.

Well, they did just release a whole movie on that - which will probably win a few Oscars.
Though you will need clown make-up as well.

[The Alma Mater]

Well, they did just release a whole movie on that - which will probably win a few Oscars.
Though you will need clown make-up as well.

it doesn't seem like you actually saw the movie, since it had none of those themes

I did and it had. Note how he changes from "a clown" to "the clown" once he has it.
It is a prop and part of his act indeed.

[Tekeristan]

What even are guns to suburbanites? They're like toys and tokens to say "I'm not emasculate / powerless! ", at least that's the way I view it.

ah yes, the good old "gun owners must be compensating for something" with the usual touch of misandry thrown in.

get more original material.

Suburban survivalist types are good and fat. They aren't presented with any dangers that necessitate a firearm, yet they act as if it is something hyper essential. Masculinity has been under siege since industrialization, if that's what affirms it to them, then so be it.

Now, people who actually do need some of those arms in order to defend themselves against violence?
Arm minorities and re-invigorate the Black Panthers 2020

[Ors Might]

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/autocratic
I said it was autocratic, and referenced the USSR as well. You can't deny that forcibly preventing law abiding citizens from owning firearms, seizing firearms, limiting the ability to purchase firearms, etc. is autocratic can you?

au·to·crat·ic (ô′tə-krăt′ĭk)
adj.
1. Relating to or being an autocrat.
2. Tending to impose one's will on others in an insistent or arrogant manner; domineering. See Synonyms at dictatorial.

That's kind of how society works. There's rules. If it has democratic support, it isn't autocratic unless it breaches some sort of human right and only gun nuts think that guns are a human right.

Do you guys consider the right to self-defense to be a human right? Or are you one of those that believe the muggerd and home invaders of the world deserve a fair shot, pun intended?

[Galloism]

ah yes, the good old "gun owners must be compensating for something" with the usual touch of misandry thrown in.

get more original material.

Suburban survivalist types are good and fat. They aren't presented with any dangers that necessitate a firearm, yet they act as if it is something hyper essential. Masculinity has been under siege since industrialization, if that's what affirms it to them, then so be it.

Now, people who actually do need some of those arms in order to defend themselves against violence?
Arm minorities and re-invigorate the Black Panthers 2020

You should thank Trump - his election has led to unprecedented numbers of racial and sexual minorities to choose to arm themselves.

[Ethel mermania]

Suburban survivalist types are good and fat. They aren't presented with any dangers that necessitate a firearm, yet they act as if it is something hyper essential. Masculinity has been under siege since industrialization, if that's what affirms it to them, then so be it.

Now, people who actually do need some of those arms in order to defend themselves against violence?
Arm minorities and re-invigorate the Black Panthers 2020

You should thank Trump - his election has led to unprecedented numbers of racial and sexual minorities to choose to arm themselves.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

[Novus America]

Suburban survivalist types are good and fat. They aren't presented with any dangers that necessitate a firearm, yet they act as if it is something hyper essential. Masculinity has been under siege since industrialization, if that's what affirms it to them, then so be it.

Now, people who actually do need some of those arms in order to defend themselves against violence?
Arm minorities and re-invigorate the Black Panthers 2020

You should thank Trump - his election has led to unprecedented numbers of racial and sexual minorities to choose to arm themselves.

And yet the Democrats like Beto want to seize their guns too.

[Ors Might]

You should thank Trump - his election has led to unprecedented numbers of racial and sexual minorities to choose to arm themselves.

And yet the Democrats like Beto want to seize their guns too.

The Dems only care about us minorities up until we decide to protect and support ourselves instead of relying on them to do it.

[Kowani]

That's kind of how society works. There's rules. If it has democratic support, it isn't autocratic unless it breaches some sort of human right and only gun nuts think that guns are a human right.

Do you guys consider the right to self-defense to be a human right? Or are you one of those that believe the muggerd and home invaders of the world deserve a fair shot, pun intended?

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

[Telconi]

Do you guys consider the right to self-defense to be a human right? Or are you one of those that believe the muggerd and home invaders of the world deserve a fair shot, pun intended?

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

You don't consider anything a right. So your judgement on the matter is categorically suspect.

[Proctopeo]

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

You don't consider anything a right. So your judgement on the matter is categorically suspect.

That and the """"refutation"""" of the study he's complaining about is pretty shit all things considered

[Kowani]

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

You don't consider anything a right. So your judgement on the matter is categorically suspect.

That’s nice.

You don't consider anything a right. So your judgement on the matter is categorically suspect.

That and the """"refutation"""" of the study he's complaining about is pretty shit all things considered

Oh, no. It’s been refuted, multiple times before, by various different studies. But since linkspan is not an argument, I only used one. Would you like a different one?

[Proctopeo]

That and the """"refutation"""" of the study he's complaining about is pretty shit all things considered

Oh, no. It’s been refuted, multiple times before, by various different studies. But since linkspan is not an argument, I only used one. Would you like a different one?

I'm distrustful of anything you'd consider a valid study given your track record, but go ahead, knock yourself out

[Telconi]

You don't consider anything a right. So your judgement on the matter is categorically suspect.

That’s nice.

That and the """"refutation"""" of the study he's complaining about is pretty shit all things considered

Oh, no. It’s been refuted, multiple times before, by various different studies. But since linkspan is not an argument, I only used one. Would you like a different one?

Right, the blatantly flawed study you provided earlier that is only better because it supports your beliefs.

[Galloism]

Do you guys consider the right to self-defense to be a human right? Or are you one of those that believe the muggerd and home invaders of the world deserve a fair shot, pun intended?

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

[Kowani]

Oh, no. It’s been refuted, multiple times before, by various different studies. But since linkspan is not an argument, I only used one. Would you like a different one?

I'm distrustful of anything you'd consider a valid study given your track record, but go ahead, knock yourself out

Here.

[Gormwood]

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

If there had existed an easily manufactured sword or melee weapon that could effortlessly slaughter crowds like a Japanese animation back then there most likely would have been restrictions imposed on who could carry weapons.

[Kowani]

I mean, I don’t consider it a right.

Mind you, I’ve yet to see evidence that access to guns saves lives either (And don’t pull out that bs “study” of 2 million Defensive Gun Usages. It’s embarrassingly bad.)

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

Gallo. Read the sig.

[Galloism]

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

Gallo. Read the sig.

Yes, you hate liberty. We know.

But rights serve a functional purpose - because living without them it unbearable torture, and worse than the consequences of having them.

[Kowani]

Gallo. Read the sig.

Yes, you hate liberty. We know.

But rights serve a functional purpose - because living without them it unbearable torture, and worse than the consequences of having them.

Which is why the unlimited right to bear arms is so widespread among the world, and so highly demanded by everyone. Wait.

As for consequences…what consequences are there from a disarmed populace?

[Telconi]

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

Gallo. Read the sig.

I don't think the point is to argue that you don't believe your beliefs. But rather that such beliefs are bad and ought to be disregarded.

[Galloism]

I mean, right to bear arms is probably one of the oldest civil rights in English common law - it may actually predate common law, in fact.

If there had existed an easily manufactured sword or melee weapon that could effortlessly slaughter crowds like a Japanese animation back then there most likely would have been restrictions imposed on who could carry weapons.

I mean, they already did kind of - it just took a few weapons working in concert.

Namely, a lance and/or sword, and an armored horse could kill many by running them down.

Granted, ours are better, such comes with progress - but our speech is better too because of the internet, our assembly better because of the ability to organize via phone apps, our religion better because we can do virtualized services and phone tie ins for the disabled, etc.