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It absolutely bloody well is..

..X, any idiot knows that.
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..Cross, if the maker says it duh!
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:35 am

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Do you pronounce "K's X" as "King's Christ"?

Anyway, PC MASTER RACE, begone ye console-using heathens.
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Postby Page » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
Page wrote:It's X. I don't give a shit what some dude from Sony says, 99.9999% of players call it x, so it's fucking x. Language is defined by consensus, people don't own words, one person doesn't get to say "AKSHUALLY..." regardless of their position.


So you're saying that a Japanese company doesn't get to base its terminology on the Japanese language?


I'm saying no company gets to dictate terminology that contradicts a near unanimous popular consensus. It's X because if you got a random sample of 100 PS4 gamers, 100% would say it's called x.

Which is made evident by the fact that the PS controller has existed for some 20 years and this is the first time in 20 years that anyone has even questioned it's called x.

If you have a best friend named Joe who you know for 20 years and then one day Joe finds out that the legal first name on his birth certificate is actually Frank, you don't start calling him Frank because of that, he's still Joe.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:51 am

Page wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you're saying that a Japanese company doesn't get to base its terminology on the Japanese language?


I'm saying no company gets to dictate terminology that contradicts a near unanimous popular consensus. It's X because if you got a random sample of 100 PS4 gamers, 100% would say it's called x.

Which is made evident by the fact that the PS controller has existed for some 20 years and this is the first time in 20 years that anyone has even questioned it's called x.

If you have a best friend named Joe who you know for 20 years and then one day Joe finds out that the legal first name on his birth certificate is actually Frank, you don't start calling him Frank because of that, he's still Joe.


It's more akin to calling someone Joe for 20 years and then they say 'look, I know you've been calling me Joe since whenever but just to let you know my actual name is Frank'.
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Postby Prydania » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
Prydania wrote:The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P


Says someone with an x-shaped cross in their flag.

The proper term is saltire :P

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Postby Page » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:00 am

Bombadil wrote:
Page wrote:
I'm saying no company gets to dictate terminology that contradicts a near unanimous popular consensus. It's X because if you got a random sample of 100 PS4 gamers, 100% would say it's called x.

Which is made evident by the fact that the PS controller has existed for some 20 years and this is the first time in 20 years that anyone has even questioned it's called x.

If you have a best friend named Joe who you know for 20 years and then one day Joe finds out that the legal first name on his birth certificate is actually Frank, you don't start calling him Frank because of that, he's still Joe.


It's more akin to calling someone Joe for 20 years and then they say 'look, I know you've been calling me Joe since whenever but just to let you know my actual name is Frank'.


Sony isn't Joe. The X button is Joe. Sony is the deadbeat dad who gave Joe his legal name and then left to get a pack of smokes and never came back. And we the players are Joe's loving mother (or loving father if you want, maybe Joe has 2 dads) who raised him from diapers to college.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:02 am

idk I had an xbox 360 because I was cool
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Postby Page » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:11 am

Bear Stearns wrote:idk I had an xbox 360 because I was cool


Which means you never got to play The Last of Us. :(
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:30 am

Page wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:idk I had an xbox 360 because I was cool


Which means you never got to play The Last of Us. :(

Overrated game tbh.
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Postby Vivolkha » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:35 am

To me it has always been the X button. And everybody around here will keep calling it X instead of cross. But regardless, I don't think this is an important issue even in the world of gaming - let everyone name it how it wants as long as we can understand each other.

EDIT: In fact, "cross" commonly refers to the D-pad here, as people are not that used to this kind of English terminology.
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Postby Blargoblarg » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:20 am

I've literally never heard anyone refer to that button as the "cross" button ever. It's the X button, everyone calls it the X button.
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Postby DACOROMANIA » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 am

This is a silly debate.
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How does look a cross?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:31 am

The Berlin neighbourhood of Kreuzberg (Cross mountain) is often abbreviated as Xberg.

The X is a cross.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 am

It's a type of cross, called an X.

Also it's moot because PC Master Race.

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Cekoviu wrote:People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...


True, but it's meant to represent the symbol of two bones crossed in an "X"


That, and it's 'X marks the spot' rather than 'cross marks the spot'.
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Postby Necunda » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:45 am

Colloquially it is " X "
Officialy it is " Cross "

Simple as that, no need to get semantics in a twist.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:58 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:It's a type of cross, called an X.

Also it's moot because PC Master Race.

Mastodon wrote:
True, but it's meant to represent the symbol of two bones crossed in an "X"


That, and it's 'X marks the spot' rather than 'cross marks the spot'.


Jesus died for your sins right there.

On a X.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:09 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:It's a type of cross, called an X.

Also it's moot because PC Master Race.



That, and it's 'X marks the spot' rather than 'cross marks the spot'.


Jesus died for your sins right there.

On a X.


On a crucifix, another type of cross.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:26 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:It's a type of cross, called an X.

Also it's moot because PC Master Race.



That, and it's 'X marks the spot' rather than 'cross marks the spot'.


Jesus died for your sins right there.

On a X.


That's the spot.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:42 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:It's a type of cross, called an X.

Also it's moot because PC Master Race.



That, and it's 'X marks the spot' rather than 'cross marks the spot'.


Jesus died for your sins right there.

On a X.

No, he died on a lowercase T.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:02 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Jesus died for your sins right there.

On a X.

No, he died on a lowercase T.


Which is such a shame, his dad was an alpha and an omega, but Jesus was not good enough for even one vowel.
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Postby Thepeopl » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:17 am

My kids call it: x = cross, ○= round □ = square and /_\ = triangle.

I call it x, circle, square and triangle. But last two don't have alternative names for the shapes
Square can be square (vierkant= 4side)or "4angle" (vierhoek)

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X. The letter.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:12 am

Risottia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Do you pronounce "K's X" as "King's Christ"?

Anyway, PC MASTER RACE, begone ye console-using heathens.

I played on console in my naive youth, as many of us no doubt did, but I ascended.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:38 am

I normally stay out of these threads as they have so much heated tribalism. I don't blame politicians for giving vague answers when the old 'x or cross' question comes up.

Thepeopl wrote:My kids call it: x = cross, ○= round □ = square and /_\ = triangle.

I call it x, circle, square and triangle. But last two don't have alternative names for the shapes
Square can be square (vierkant= 4side)or "4angle" (vierhoek)


Criss-crossy, round, blocky and pointy are the correct terms for the buttons.
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