NATION

PASSWORD

X or Cross..

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

It absolutely bloody well is..

..X, any idiot knows that.
33
57%
..Cross, if the maker says it duh!
1
2%
..tis a silly debate
24
41%
 
Total votes : 58

User avatar
Bombadil
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13888
Founded: Oct 13, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

X or Cross..

Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:39 pm

So the intarwebs have been all of a flutter over Playstation joypads, when someone dared to ask the seemingly innocent question of whether you call the lower button X or Cross?

On the one hand..

Kanra
@KanraNakurax2
Replying to @drip133
A cross is ➕, not ✖ you pelicans


Yet on the other..

PlayStation UK

@PlayStationUK
Triangle
Circle
Cross
Square

If Cross is called X (it's not), then what are you calling Circle? :eyebrow:


However, one pertinent point is..

Arby
Anyone who says cross is a cop.


I've always said X because, hey, screw the man and their "rules", but my opinion is naught against the great mass that is NSG wisdom, a mass so great it moves at the speed of light.

What say ye NSG!
Eldest, that's what I am...Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn...he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless — before the Dark Lord came from Outside..

十年

User avatar
Mastodon
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Nov 26, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:43 pm

I've never called that button "cross," but I can see where they're coming from. Cross-country is abbreviated with an "x," and Railroad Crossings are abbreviated "RxR"

User avatar
Neanderthaland
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6367
Founded: Sep 10, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 pm

Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

User avatar
Valentine Z
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8046
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 pm

No Hasselhoff in the poll? Booo.

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Never crossed my mind, sorry. ;)

-----

For the OP, I would say context-dependent. I will say "x" if it is a letter, but if it is used for "WRONG!", then I will say "cross".
Last edited by Valentine Z on Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:46 pm, edited 2 times in total.



Valentine Z GIF Flag (Improved!)
De Valentian CV.
Flag Bracket - 1st for Mk I! 2nd for Mk II!
Issues Thread 4th in Gen Sec

The Sixty! Opinions Deposit! Valentian Stories! Gwen's Adventures! Cat Anthem! Valentian News.
If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down !
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
Q & A Here! | Heights of NS! | F7 Etiquette

Clarissa mistaken for Smurf/Avatar: 10
Valentijn called She: 40
If above = 50, make him a Lesbian.

• Eat my fking tranquility. - Zenyatta
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.

• Am I a pretty girl?

User avatar
Heloin
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14435
Founded: Mar 30, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Heloin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Zessmas.
I hope you meet the rabbit with the feather in her hat, the penny whistle girl with the orange colored cap.
Bells on her coat and a raggle taggle kind of grin, she'll teach you how to love if you believe in her


Free All Of Africa From Hate
Proudly Zimbabwean | Art Thread | Stand With Hong Kong | One Big Union | Zurk 2020

User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16381
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

I guess it makes sense to call it cross when they're all symbols. OTOH, on controllers where the buttons are letters, the same symbol should be considered to be X.
RWDT - REST IN POWER
David Hume fangirl, massive Tuvaboo, anti-imperialist, and Castroist socialist. Also a sex-negative SWERF, traditionalist SJW, and Anglo-Catholic Episcopalian.
/tʃɛ'koʊ.vi:.ju:/ (check-OH-vee-you)

User avatar
Mastodon
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Nov 26, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16381
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Heloin wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Zessmas.

/ksmas/
RWDT - REST IN POWER
David Hume fangirl, massive Tuvaboo, anti-imperialist, and Castroist socialist. Also a sex-negative SWERF, traditionalist SJW, and Anglo-Catholic Episcopalian.
/tʃɛ'koʊ.vi:.ju:/ (check-OH-vee-you)

User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16381
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Mastodon wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...
RWDT - REST IN POWER
David Hume fangirl, massive Tuvaboo, anti-imperialist, and Castroist socialist. Also a sex-negative SWERF, traditionalist SJW, and Anglo-Catholic Episcopalian.
/tʃɛ'koʊ.vi:.ju:/ (check-OH-vee-you)

User avatar
Valentine Z
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8046
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:49 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mastodon wrote:
No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...

When Xbox One first came out, it was called XBONE... And I thought "What the fuck is a X-Bone?!"

.... Crossboxes.



Valentine Z GIF Flag (Improved!)
De Valentian CV.
Flag Bracket - 1st for Mk I! 2nd for Mk II!
Issues Thread 4th in Gen Sec

The Sixty! Opinions Deposit! Valentian Stories! Gwen's Adventures! Cat Anthem! Valentian News.
If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down !
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
Q & A Here! | Heights of NS! | F7 Etiquette

Clarissa mistaken for Smurf/Avatar: 10
Valentijn called She: 40
If above = 50, make him a Lesbian.

• Eat my fking tranquility. - Zenyatta
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.

• Am I a pretty girl?

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 141359
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:49 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Regular Thorough Handwashing For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Mask Wearing That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Social Distancing
He/Him

You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

User avatar
Mastodon
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Nov 26, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Mastodon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:50 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mastodon wrote:
No, but you do say "skull and crossbones"

People don't write it as "skull and xbones" to my knowledge...


True, but it's meant to represent the symbol of two bones crossed in an "X"

User avatar
Heloin
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14435
Founded: Mar 30, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Heloin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.

That'd be ↑mas depending on what games you played first.
I hope you meet the rabbit with the feather in her hat, the penny whistle girl with the orange colored cap.
Bells on her coat and a raggle taggle kind of grin, she'll teach you how to love if you believe in her


Free All Of Africa From Hate
Proudly Zimbabwean | Art Thread | Stand With Hong Kong | One Big Union | Zurk 2020

User avatar
Neanderthaland
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6367
Founded: Sep 10, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"

Jumpmas.

doubtmas.
Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

User avatar
Bombadil
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13888
Founded: Oct 13, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 pm

Valentine Z wrote:No Hasselhoff in the poll? Booo.


You're not the boss of me!

Heloin wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Jumpmas.

That'd be ↑mas depending on what games you played first.


This is a problem unique to Playstation because..

The scrap is a rare event in the world of video games as console manufacturers usually name buttons after numbers, unambiguous letters of the alphabet or colours. The groundbreaking Nintendo Entertainment System pad, for example, went with A, B, while the SNES added X and Y (a configuration also used by Sega and Microsoft), and in this context, it’s clear that “X” is X.

The only other major console controller to utilise symbols was the disastrous Apple Bandai Pippen, which featured raised dots on its four main buttons as well as a sequence of buttons on the front of the pad, which in turn featured three shapes: “square”, “circle” and “diamond”. There was little controversy over what to call any of these buttons, however, because a), Apple avoided the contentious “X” symbol and b), no one bought an Apple Bandai Pippin.


I'd never even heard of the Apple Bandai Pippin..
Eldest, that's what I am...Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn...he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless — before the Dark Lord came from Outside..

十年

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52829
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:20 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


Kaimas.

And to people who say that a cross cannot be X-shaped: St Andrew is spinning in his grave.
Last edited by Vassenor on Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

User avatar
Costa Fierro
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19645
Founded: Dec 09, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Do you pronounce "Xmas" "Crossmas?"


Kaimas.

And to people who say that a cross cannot be X-shaped: St Andrew is spinning in his grave.


Sounds like he's a bit cross...

Anyway, X will always be pronounced X, as in X-ray.
"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." - George Carlin

User avatar
The Greater Ohio Valley
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6020
Founded: Jan 19, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:34 pm

I’ve been calling it the “X” button for over 20 years since the PS1 days, so “X” it shall remain.
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.1

PRO:
- Free speech
- Democracy
- Weapons Rights
- LGBTQ+ Rights
- Due Process
- Religious Freedom
- Choice
- Gender & Sexual Equality
- Racial Equality
- Workers Rights
- Universal Healthcare
- Secularism
ANTI:
- Fascism/Nazism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Racism
- Sexism
- Xenophobia
- Homophobia
- Transphobia
- Ethno-nationalism
- Nationalism
- Racial Supremacy
- Conservatism
- Traditionalism
- Religious Extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Antivaxx
- Theocracy

Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

User avatar
Prydania
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1155
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Prydania » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:36 pm

The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P
Pro Things You Hate
Anti Things You Like

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52829
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 pm

Prydania wrote:The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P


Says someone with an x-shaped cross in their flag.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

User avatar
Bombadil
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13888
Founded: Oct 13, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Bombadil » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Prydania wrote:The D-pad is closer to a "cross" than the "X" button which is...well...an X :P


Says someone with an x-shaped cross in their flag.


You mean a cross-shaped X..
Eldest, that's what I am...Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn...he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless — before the Dark Lord came from Outside..

十年

User avatar
Dumb Ideologies
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43375
Founded: Sep 30, 2007
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:39 pm

You're telling me it wasn't the rune Gyfu?

Gaming is anti-white, confirmed.
Tʜᴇ Mᴏsᴛʟʏ Pᴇᴀᴄᴇғᴜʟ Rɪᴏᴛɪɴɢ ᴏғ Dᴜᴍʙ Iᴅᴇᴏʟᴏɢɪᴇs
¸„¤*˜*¤„¸„¤*˜*¤„¸ To culture war! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems ¸„¤*˜*¤„¸„¤*˜*¤„¸
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane ~ Marcus Aurelius
♆ P ᴀ x D I ᴀ ʙ ᴏ ʟ ɪ ᴄ ᴀ ♆

User avatar
Holy Tedalonia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11186
Founded: Nov 14, 2016
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:43 pm

I call it a d-pad, thats simply how I was raised to call it. Call me a nerd or weirdo, but that how it was for me.
Last edited by Holy Tedalonia on Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Name: Ted
Ideology: Capitalism
Political Compass: Social Libertarian for some reason
Race: Vampire
Political Side: Right
Favorite Senator: Ted Cruz (Ted's have to help out Ted's)
Status: Healthy and as strong as a starved ox
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

User avatar
Page
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12341
Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Page » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:54 pm

It's X. I don't give a shit what some dude from Sony says, 99.9999% of players call it x, so it's fucking x. Language is defined by consensus, people don't own words, one person doesn't get to say "AKSHUALLY..." regardless of their position.
All about dat FREE stuff: FREE hotel rooms for immigrants - FREE health care - FREE speech - FREE Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange

"If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged." - Noam Chomsky

Protect yourself from Covid-19: Stop licking boots.

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52829
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:12 am

Page wrote:It's X. I don't give a shit what some dude from Sony says, 99.9999% of players call it x, so it's fucking x. Language is defined by consensus, people don't own words, one person doesn't get to say "AKSHUALLY..." regardless of their position.


So you're saying that a Japanese company doesn't get to base its terminology on the Japanese language?
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: -SARS-, Albionist Great Britain, Gallade, Glorious Hong Kong, Google Adsense [Bot], Heloin, Kanadorika, Lost Memories, New haven america, Nobel Hobos 2, Novus America, Omnum, Philjia, Skyhooked, The Huskar Social Union

Advertisement

Remove ads