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What is America's breaking point?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:07 pm
by Tokora
Simple question, what action would trump have to commit for Americans to decide enough is enough and remove him by force. And I don't mean angry phone calls to senators, I mean rioting in the streets, serious calls for secession, and a mob marching in DC with members of the military taking their side.

What boneheaded move would Trump and his allies need to make for the American people to lose all patience and take action against the government for once in their lives? What would be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

Personally I don't have that much faith in the American people. I honestly believe that Trump could declare himself president for life, repeal the first amendment, reinstate segregation, openly deny the holocaust, publicly execute political enemies, place hispanics in death camps, invade Greenland, invite Russian troops, and make pineapple pizza the national food, and Americans would still stare at their screens drooling and completely indifferent to the world around them.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:08 pm
by Fartsniffage
Well this thread will go well...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:09 pm
by Rojava Free State
If trump declared that being named Robert or matt made you a loser and low energy and that the punishment for being named Robert or matt was death. Since every one knows a Robert or a matt, it would affect us all and every one would riot.

Beyond that ridiculous scenario, I don't know what it would take to make a majority of Americans rebel. Even during the American revolution, a minority was involved in the conflict.I hope the trump presidency ends peacefully because while I think he's a dick, I don't wanna see Americans kill each other in another civil war

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:10 pm
by Deltia-
Quite simple. Another shutdown.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:11 pm
by Tokora
Fartsniffage wrote:Well this thread will go well...

I honestly don't expect Trump to be stupid enough to commit (insert action here), we're not that lucky. I just want to ask if Americans are even capable of taking back their government if the need ever arose, not that it didn't a hundred times before in the past only to be answered with complete and utter apathy.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:13 pm
by Polends
he would have to act like a communist or fascist which he is doing neither of now everything you listed in your thing would never happen. im a trump supporter and hispanic but i actually wanna have rational discussion about things instead of angrily typing stuff at people

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:15 pm
by Pacomia
Polends wrote:he would have to act like a communist or fascist which he is doing neither of now everything you listed in your thing would never happen. im a trump supporter and hispanic but i actually wanna have rational discussion about things instead of angrily typing stuff at people

If you want to have a rational discussion without any angry typing, NSG might not be the place for you.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:16 pm
by Tokora
Polends wrote:he would have to act like a communist or fascist which he is doing neither of now everything you listed in your thing would never happen. im a trump supporter and hispanic but i actually wanna have rational discussion about things instead of angrily typing stuff at people

The list was just a worst case scenario to show how little faith I have for Americans to have a better attention span than a goldfish, let alone the will to act on it.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:18 pm
by Heloin
Tokora wrote:Simple question, what action would trump have to commit for Americans to decide enough is enough and remove him by force. And I don't mean angry phone calls to senators, I mean rioting in the streets, serious calls for secession, and a mob marching in DC with members of the military taking their side.

What boneheaded move would Trump and his allies need to make for the American people to lose all patience and take action against the government for once in their lives? What would be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

Say he's voting Democrat (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

Personally I don't have that much faith in the American people. I honestly believe that Trump could declare himself president for life, repeal the first amendment, reinstate segregation, openly deny the holocaust, publicly execute political enemies, place hispanics in death camps, invade Greenland, invite Russian troops, and make pineapple pizza the national food, and Americans would still stare at their screens drooling and completely indifferent to the world around them.

Sounds like you being a bit hyperbolic.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:21 pm
by Ethel mermania
Put Ivanka's face on the statue of liberty.


which would be an improvement, but I digress.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:23 pm
by San Lumen
Tokora wrote:Simple question, what action would trump have to commit for Americans to decide enough is enough and remove him by force. And I don't mean angry phone calls to senators, I mean rioting in the streets, serious calls for secession, and a mob marching in DC with members of the military taking their side.

What boneheaded move would Trump and his allies need to make for the American people to lose all patience and take action against the government for once in their lives? What would be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

Personally I don't have that much faith in the American people. I honestly believe that Trump could declare himself president for life, repeal the first amendment, reinstate segregation, openly deny the holocaust, publicly execute political enemies, place hispanics in death camps, invade Greenland, invite Russian troops, and make pineapple pizza the national food, and Americans would still stare at their screens drooling and completely indifferent to the world around them.

Republicans in the senate won't ever convict him as they fear primary challengers.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:26 pm
by Bombadil
To be entirely fair I think a good portion of the right felt this way about Obama, that the left would excuse him for anything, that he was bringing about a race war, that he was secretly a Muslim.. I'm not talking to equivalency in the veracity of these beliefs, simply that people were relatively apocalyptic in their anger - I mean there was the whole Don't Tread On Me movement alone.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:28 pm
by New haven america
Nothing.

Almost everyone's content now that we've entered a period of Panem Et Circenses, and aren't willing to actually commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent or getting to pay for Netflix. (And the one's who are can't gain any following or set up a social hierarchy and plan moving forward) Trump could declare the country a dictatorship and I doubt anyone would actually care as long as it doesn't affect their work hours/pay.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:40 pm
by Rojava Free State
Bombadil wrote:To be entirely fair I think a good portion of the right felt this way about Obama, that the left would excuse him for anything, that he was bringing about a race war, that he was secretly a Muslim.. I'm not talking to equivalency in the veracity of these beliefs, simply that people were relatively apocalyptic in their anger - I mean there was the whole Don't Tread On Me movement alone.


The apocalypse will not be caused by trump. If anything, the decline of our society caused the trump presidency. He's a result of our civilization degenerating into a dark age. Not the man who made it happen

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:57 pm
by Rojava Free State
I know what would cause an uprising against the government. I finally figured it out

Imagine that trump likes the music of 2 live crew and decides that their songs will be broadcast over the municipal tornado sirens 24/7 every week of the year. If you know anything about their music, it's that the beats are fire but the lyrical subject matter can induce projectile vomiting. People get tired of hearing all kinds of nasty and disgusting material being broadcast at full volume day and night in their neighborhoods and finally just go insane and begin destroying everything before the US comes crashing down

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:00 pm
by Nakena
New haven america wrote:Nothing.

Almost everyone's content now that we've entered a period of Panem Et Circenses, and aren't willing to actually commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent or getting to pay for Netflix. (And the one's who are can't gain any following or set up a social hierarchy and plan moving forward) Trump could declare the country a dictatorship and I doubt anyone would actually care as long as it doesn't affect their work hours/pay.


Pretty much this.

Rojava Free State wrote:
Bombadil wrote:To be entirely fair I think a good portion of the right felt this way about Obama, that the left would excuse him for anything, that he was bringing about a race war, that he was secretly a Muslim.. I'm not talking to equivalency in the veracity of these beliefs, simply that people were relatively apocalyptic in their anger - I mean there was the whole Don't Tread On Me movement alone.


The apocalypse will not be caused by trump. If anything, the decline of our society caused the trump presidency. He's a result of our civilization degenerating into a dark age. Not the man who made it happen


Very much so. Trump is the inevitable result of the last 25-30 years of politics and media.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:07 pm
by Rojava Free State
Nakena wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nothing.

Almost everyone's content now that we've entered a period of Panem Et Circenses, and aren't willing to actually commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent or getting to pay for Netflix. (And the one's who are can't gain any following or set up a social hierarchy and plan moving forward) Trump could declare the country a dictatorship and I doubt anyone would actually care as long as it doesn't affect their work hours/pay.


Pretty much this.

Rojava Free State wrote:
The apocalypse will not be caused by trump. If anything, the decline of our society caused the trump presidency. He's a result of our civilization degenerating into a dark age. Not the man who made it happen


Very much so. Trump is the inevitable result of the last 25-30 years of politics and media.


Some people say trump doesn't represent Americans but I couldn't disagree more. If we drew a venn diagram of trump's behavior and america, it would look like there's just one circle. I work in fast food and everyday I deal with whiney entitled people who think they have a right to be abusive and angry if one tiny mistake is made with their order, including something as small as getting three packets of butter instead of four. Many Americans have that same entitled victim mentality as trump and also share trump's lack of enthusiasm for anything smart. True, it isn't all americans, but it's enough that trump isn't some oddity. He represents a large number of people and his actions are just reality Tv finally reaching the white house. We had the Kardashians. We had Kanye west. we had the Jersey shore. Did anyone really think this wouldn't be the government itself someday?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:36 pm
by Ayytaly
The Panama Canal. It separates America as two subcontinents.


Oh, you meant the United States. Banning junk food.


I'm serious about that. The Twinkies shortage got more attention than any political story.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:44 pm
by Kowani
New haven america wrote:Nothing.

Almost everyone's content now that we've entered a period of Panem Et Circenses, and aren't willing to actually commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent or getting to pay for Netflix. (And the one's who are can't gain any following or set up a social hierarchy and plan moving forward) Trump could declare the country a dictatorship and I doubt anyone would actually care as long as it doesn't affect their work hours/pay.

People gotta eat.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:05 pm
by Arkhane
Simple enough, it would be the things his oppositions accused him off, Trump is not a Nazi, he is not a racist, he is not a white supremacist, he did not collude with Russia, he does not have a body count no matter how much his opponents enjoy associating and pining every single shooting/terrorism/hate/injustice/weather/disaster as him being directly responsible for.

I know the media enjoys making it look like Trump can destroy America and bring about the Fourth Reich, but he cannot. He is still subject to the will of the nation.

If by some miracle he bypassed all the aspects of the government and instigated a dictatorship bent on racial cleansing and started doing horrible things the media is accusing him of, he would be quickly met with resistance and overthrown.

No single president can destroy the U.S.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:10 pm
by Kowani
Arkhane wrote: he is not a racist,
Remember that time Trump refused to rent to black people?

No single president can destroy the U.S.

Buchanan.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:11 pm
by Medwind
Lol, Trump must be like Hitler 2.0 to you guys. It's crazy how radicalized the left has become, hoping for revolution against a lawful president, smh.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:13 pm
by Arkhane
Kowani wrote:
Arkhane wrote: he is not a racist,
Remember that time Trump refused to rent to black people?

No single president can destroy the U.S.

Buchanan.


Context wise, I don't really see how that is worthy of impeachment or the irreparable destruction of the U.S.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:14 pm
by Kowani
Arkhane wrote:
Kowani wrote: Remember that time Trump refused to rent to black people?

Buchanan.


Context wise, I don't really see how that is worthy of impeachment or the irreparable destruction of the U.S.

I didn’t say it was. I just wanted to refute the claim that he wasn’t racist.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:15 pm
by Cappuccina
Medwind wrote:Lol, Trump must be like Hitler 2.0 to you guys. It's crazy how radicalized the left has become, hoping for revolution against a lawful president, smh.

Everyone is radicalized, not just the Left. The current culture of American politics has made it unfashionable to not be ridiculously extreme....in all the wrong ways I might add.