What is America's breaking point?

[Miami Shores]

trump use 2 be a leftist till he realized how crooked it was

Damn, it's almost like you have literally no idea what leftism is.

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

[Rainbowsix]

Lol, Trump must be like Hitler 2.0 to you guys. It's crazy how radicalized the left has become, hoping for revolution against a lawful president, smh.

so true

[The Archipelago Territory]

Damn, it's almost like you have literally no idea what leftism is.

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

Exactly. And in Russia and China where they put you in a jail if you speak out against them. I am conservative but cannot support trump

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Nothing.

Almost everyone's content now that we've entered a period of Panem Et Circenses, and aren't willing to actually commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent or getting to pay for Netflix. (And the one's who are can't gain any following or set up a social hierarchy and plan moving forward) Trump could declare the country a dictatorship and I doubt anyone would actually care as long as it doesn't affect their work hours/pay.

How about abolishing the minimum wage and granting employers the carte blanche to not pay their employees anything at all? You say Americans are worried about rent and pay? Well let's see what happens when they don't get paid at all and thus can't finance their rent or Netflix. Only maximum imposition of misery and extreme poverty will generate massive unrest, because after all, if the masses don't get their daily bread and circuses, they will rise.

[Miami Shores]

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

Exactly. And in Russia and China where they put you in a jail if you speak out against them. I am conservative but cannot support trump

Ok fair enough Trump is not going to do that, Trump is not going to create a coup d'état, ban sites like NS like they do in Cuba and all the so called commie socialist nations that have never practiced true communist socialism as it should be practiced, I and millions of American citizens, Proudly support President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that.

I would rather have President Trump than any of the Leftist Democrat candidates for President.

[Kowani]

everyone is liberal because they only get news sources from where they wanna hear (CNN and other liberal news media) without looking up the facts... people have become so lazy and 1 sided and that explains the democratic party... lazy and just going to hurt america... if u like socialism go to a country that has socialism.. trust me americans wont miss you... if u dont like the country ur in then get out

“Socialism.”
“Socialism.”
Nope, try again.

[Rainbowsix]

Exactly. And in Russia and China where they put you in a jail if you speak out against them. I am conservative but cannot support trump

Ok fair enough Trump is not going to do that, Trump is not going to create a coup d'état, ban sites like NS like they do in Cuba and all the so called commie socialist nations that have never practiced true communist socialism as it should be practiced, I and millions of American citizens, Proudly support President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that.

thats all i have to say best explanation from someone who has common sense

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Damn, it's almost like you have literally no idea what leftism is.

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

Trump was never a socialist, nor a social democrat. Whatever happened, he was always on the side of big business and all-american free marketism. Not even in his Reform Party days did Trump ever approach leftism, let alone communism. And Scandinavia is known as the bastion of leftism in Europe, and they have one of the least corrupt governments in the world according to Transparency International.

[Miami Shores]

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

Trump was never a socialist, nor a social democrat. Whatever happened, he was always on the side of big business and all-american free marketism. Not even in his Reform Party days did Trump ever approach leftism, let alone communism. And Scandinavia is known as the bastion of leftism in Europe, and they have one of the least corrupt governments in the world according to Transparency International.

of course Trump is not a socialist he is a capitalist. All the so called socialist democratic nations of Europe rely on a capitalist economy of small private businesses and large corporations, without that they would be just like Cuba and all the so called communist socialist nations that have never practiced true communist socialism at it should be practiced, their are reasons for that, that I am not going to into on this thread.

[Das Kaiser Reich]

Ignoring the OPs Blatent anti Trump bias
I Believe the thing that will cause the collapse of America is the extreme Division and Hatred, and the invasions of the Unassimilating immigrants legal or not ( most of who vote exclusively Democrat)

What do I think will drive people to actually Revolt ? I will divide my answer into 2.
1 : the Extreme Left might try to revolt against the government If Trump wins a 2nd term. Based off of Antifa's behavior they will indiscriminently attack anyone who isn't
Rioting with them.

2 : For the Right Wing. The answer is that if/When Texas is flipped Blue (sometime between 2024 and 2028) because of the leftist voting immigrant communities who are protected by the Democrats, out number and then out vote the Conservatives in Texas. The Rightwing will Realize that they will never win another presidential election again due to the electoral college.
They will then have a choice of being ruled by psychotic SJW Communists like "the Squad" forever or fight.

[Miami Shores]

Ignoring the OPs Blatent anti Trump bias
I Believe the thing that will cause the collapse of America is the extreme Division and Hatred, and the invasions of the Unassimilating immigrants legal or not ( most of who vote exclusively Democrat)

What do I think will drive people to actually Revolt ? I will divide my answer into 2.
1 : the Extreme Left might try to revolt against the government If Trump wins a 2nd term. Based off of Antifa's behavior they will indiscriminently attack anyone who isn't
Rioting with them.

2 : For the Right Wing. The answer is that if Texas is flipped Blue because of the leftist voting immigrant communities who are protected by the Democrats, out number and then out vote the Conservatives in Texas. The Rightwing will Realize that they will never win another presidential election again due to the electoral college.
They will then have a choice of being ruled by psychotic SJW Communists or fight.

I agree it is possible, and all Americans left or right I don't care, need to have gun rights, the Leftist Hollywood celebrities have armed body guards and security systems in their mansions. The Committees for the Defense of the Revolution CDRs in Cuba confiscated guns in Cuba, they have a right to enter your homes and search it for anything against the revolution, the eternal revolution, Trump will not do that to America.

[Das Kaiser Reich]

Ignoring the OPs Blatent anti Trump bias
I Believe the thing that will cause the collapse of America is the extreme Division and Hatred, and the invasions of the Unassimilating immigrants legal or not ( most of who vote exclusively Democrat)

What do I think will drive people to actually Revolt ? I will divide my answer into 2.
1 : the Extreme Left might try to revolt against the government If Trump wins a 2nd term. Based off of Antifa's behavior they will indiscriminently attack anyone who isn't
Rioting with them.

2 : For the Right Wing. The answer is that if Texas is flipped Blue because of the leftist voting immigrant communities who are protected by the Democrats, out number and then out vote the Conservatives in Texas. The Rightwing will Realize that they will never win another presidential election again due to the electoral college.
They will then have a choice of being ruled by psychotic SJW Communists or fight.

I agree it is possible, and all Americans left or right I don't care, need to have gun rights, the Leftist Hollywood celebrities have armed body guards and security systems in their mansions.

I think that the Anti Gun Activists should be required to have no Armed protection of any kind. Because anything else is hypocritical xD
But seriously. Hollywood is full of subversive Communists who are not loyal to the US. McCarthy was right.

[Rainbowsix]

I agree it is possible, and all Americans left or right I don't care, need to have gun rights, the Leftist Hollywood celebrities have armed body guards and security systems in their mansions.

I think that the Anti Gun Activists should be required to have no Armed protection of any kind. Because anything else is hypocritical xD
But seriously. Hollywood is full of subversive Communists who are not loyal to the US. McCarthy was right.

celebs be like "don't build a wall but I'm going to build a "wall" around my mansion

[Confederate Norway]

Just because I said they're radical does not mean I think they are on the same level. Antifa is by far more radical then the Justice Dems but they are still both radical.

Was Eisenhower radical?

No, he was not a Socialist.

[5 Kingdoms of Britannia]

At the end of day to be honest most of trump base did not expect he do this much, they got really far with there ideas and other than the wall... what else would a NORMAL POLITICAL NEUTRAL voter have not to vote trump?
Economy- doing really well
Social - Hasnt affected them expect with the sheriff in Arizona which (in Arizona) a lot of people liked he did that.
International- pushed Back china... enough said
For average American things have gotten better I cant see why they kick him out.
HE must do something really extreme

[Adad Civilization]

I mean, the last time American broke was over the issue of slavery. I think orange man, gun control, and immigration won't break the country.

Climate Change? Maybe. But a good majority of today's issues? No

[Grand Proudhonia]

This thread has passed it's breaking point.

Its driving me mentally unstable, ngl

[Grand Proudhonia]

At the end of day to be honest most of trump base did not expect he do this much, they got really far with there ideas and other than the wall... what else would a NORMAL POLITICAL NEUTRAL voter have not to vote trump?
Economy- doing really well
Social - Hasnt affected them expect with the sheriff in Arizona which (in Arizona) a lot of people liked he did that.
International- pushed Back china... enough said
For average American things have gotten better I cant see why they kick him out.
HE must do something really extreme

>"Economy Doing Well"
>Running a trillion dollar deficit when the country is at full employment
>Attempting to drive interest rates down further thus taking away our ability to fight future recessions and causing run away inflation (I dont think Trump or his fed picks have ever looked at a macroeconomic model before...)
>Continuing a trade war with China that benefits neither side and is hurting american industry/agriculture and driving consumer prices up (free trade benefits everyone, this is a basic fact)

I know, greentext is gay but its idiotic to think that the economy is doing well right now because thats not the full story... We are seeing massive amounts of economic growth but you have to look at the full story

Also, the stock market is not and will never be a good indicator of economic health especially seeing that runs of hysteria more than anything

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean. Considering we are winning aforementioned trade war... I think it's greatly helpful to crush China's economy.

[Confederate Norway]

I mean. Considering we are winning aforementioned trade war... I think it's greatly helpful to crush China's economy.

That also hurts chinas people and china is the biggest country on earth. We would be hurting billions of people.

[Grand Proudhonia]

I mean. Considering we are winning aforementioned trade war... I think it's greatly helpful to crush China's economy.

No, it literally isnt... Trade wars are a lot like nuclear wars, there are no winners... Industry will falter on both sides and prices have gone up... its been especially harmful to heartland farmers due to Chinese retaliatory tariffs against our agricultural products

https://www.axios.com/trumps-trade-war- ... 9d8b1.html

https://www.mercatus.org/publication/be ... -key-myths

Literally take a college level econ 101 class, its not hard to understand how free trade only helps as nations specialize in areas that they have competitive advantage within

[Grand Proudhonia]

Im only in sophomore year of my undergraduate in the science of economics and the amount of economic illiteracy that exists is absolutely astounding...

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean. Considering we are winning aforementioned trade war... I think it's greatly helpful to crush China's economy.

No, it literally isnt... Trade wars are a lot like nuclear wars, there are no winners... Industry will falter on both sides and prices have gone up... its been especially harmful to heartland farmers due to Chinese retaliatory tariffs against our agricultural products

https://www.axios.com/trumps-trade-war- ... 9d8b1.html

https://www.mercatus.org/publication/be ... -key-myths

Literally take a college level econ 101 class, its not hard to understand how free trade only helps as nations specialize in areas that they have competitive advantage within

That's the thing, You can't have fair competition when China's entire nation is working to tilt the playing field to their benefit while we do nothing of the sort.

China is known for illegal ripoff products for a reason. Because anything you ever produce in China is no longer yours. Meanwhile they also stick spy equipment into electronics manufactured there.

The slight benefits of working with China are not worth the downsides of working with China.

This isn't about limiting free trade. It's about booting the cheater from the game.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

I mean. Considering we are winning aforementioned trade war... I think it's greatly helpful to crush China's economy.

No, it literally isnt... Trade wars are a lot like nuclear wars, there are no winners... Industry will falter on both sides and prices have gone up... its been especially harmful to heartland farmers due to Chinese retaliatory tariffs against our agricultural products

https://www.axios.com/trumps-trade-war- ... 9d8b1.html

https://www.mercatus.org/publication/be ... -key-myths

Literally take a college level econ 101 class, its not hard to understand how free trade only helps as nations specialize in areas that they have competitive advantage within

Fair trade benefits both the economy and the worker alike, but pure free trade? Ehhhh, gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that, especially since domestic manufacturing was eviscerated after NAFTA (The giant sucking sound) was signed into law.

[Grand Britannia]

commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent

Yeah only one of those leaves me homeless so I don't see the issue.