Is there an outrage culture in the media?

[Aclion]

Trump: breathes

Rachel Maddow: LOOK AT THAT EVIL RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST MAN DOING HIS EVIL DEEDS! IMPEACH 45!!!!!!!!!

Sean Hannity: OMG HE IS SO MAJESTIC ALL HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So yes

Trump: Bing Bing bong

CNN: IT'S A RACIST CODEWORD TO TRIGGER THE WHITE RIOTS!

Fox: Donald trump has unveiled before us his plan to fix America and his speech was the most beautiful of all time!

Me: what the fuck does bing bing bong even mean!?

This ones more accurate.

[WayNeacTia]

Not so much and outrage culture as an offended culture. No matter what anyone, anywhere says, half a billion people are instantly offended by it.

[Cekoviu]

Trump: Bing Bing bong

CNN: IT'S A RACIST CODEWORD TO TRIGGER THE WHITE RIOTS!

Fox: Donald trump has unveiled before us his plan to fix America and his speech was the most beautiful of all time!

Me: what the fuck does bing bing bong even mean!?

This ones more accurate.

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

[Cannot think of a name]

This ones more accurate.

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

Sort of this thread's jam.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Not so much and outrage culture as an offended culture. No matter what anyone, anywhere says, half a billion people are instantly offended by it.

That's the irony though it is usually only a handful of people definitely not a significant percentage of the population.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Not so much and outrage culture as an offended culture. No matter what anyone, anywhere says, half a billion people are instantly offended by it.

I'm offended by this statement. :^)

[Dumb Ideologies]

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

Sort of this thread's jam.

Now jam-making, that's the hobby of a proper prospective national leader.

[Auze]

You say:

This ones more accurate.

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

Your sig:

anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

Self Awareness 100

Anyways, it appears there isn't really any doubt over whether there is, most arguing is over who does it more.

[Cekoviu]

You say:

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

Your sig:

anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

Self Awareness 100

Not really self-congratulatory, just a jokey parody - I wouldn't say it's strawmanning so much as absurdist generalizing, since countless right-wingers here and elsewhere have actually done that. Not the topic of the thread, though.

[Rojava Free State]

This ones more accurate.

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

It's not a straw man when it's reality. CNN takes every opportunity to hate on trump, even in the rare instance that he's right (pulling out of syria is a great idea because that isn't our damn war to fight and we have battles to fight on our own soil) and fox takes every opportunity to tell it's viewers how trump is unfairly persecuted and everyone against trump is portrayed as being angry radical leftists when many moderate normal people can't stand him. I wonder why they can't stand him? Oh yeah, cause he's a nasty asshole with no decency or moral boundaries

[Cekoviu]

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

It's not a straw man when it's reality. CNN takes every opportunity to hate on trump, even in the rare instance that he's right (pulling out of syria is a great idea because that isn't our damn war to fight and we have battles to fight on our own soil) and fox takes every opportunity to tell it's viewers how trump is unfairly persecuted and everyone against trump is portrayed as being angry radical leftists when many moderate normal people can't stand him. I wonder why they can't stand him? Oh yeah, cause he's a nasty asshole with no decency or moral boundaries

CNN certainly doesn't like Trump, but your example is just total nonsense. The same is true of Fox, but in the reverse direction.

[Kowani]

It really isn't. It's mostly just self-congratulatory strawmanning.

It's not a straw man when it's reality. CNN takes every opportunity to hate on trump, even in the rare instance that he's right (pulling out of syria is a great idea because that isn't our damn war to fight and we have battles to fight on our own soil)

No, it’s a terrible idea. Or rather, his execution of it would have been.

[Costa Fierro]

Traditional newspapers don't sell, and media companies need to generate clicks to get revenue, so they have to give people a reason to click.

[Nakena]

For some reason this thread made me remember this one video, which isnt, about, you know, real communism. At all.

[Volkish Amerika]

I'm not sure it's so much an outrage culture as it is the media playing up controversies/capitalizing on tragedies to drive up ratings.

[Rojava Free State]

It's not a straw man when it's reality. CNN takes every opportunity to hate on trump, even in the rare instance that he's right (pulling out of syria is a great idea because that isn't our damn war to fight and we have battles to fight on our own soil)

No, it’s a terrible idea. Or rather, his execution of it would have been.

why is it a terrible idea? The only terrible idea I see is having American soldiers on middle eastern soil. None of these issues involving ISIS would be happening right now if we didn't go overseas to Iraq to begin with. This country is so focused on other people's issues that it seems we lost sight of our own. Bring the troops home and let the Israelis, saudis, iranians, turks and whoever else squabble over their bullshit without us.

[Treadwellia]

Regarding the original post's question, there's a saying in journalism nowadays that "If it bleeds, it leads." The media in general are all about sensationalism, which requires blowing stories out of proportion, looking for the raciest and rowdiest headlines and events, and jumping to worst case scenario conclusions about celebrities, events, and products.

I remember growing up with what some might consider the last vestiges of "proper" journalism--suits, ties, firm but polite reporting, stuff like Sixty Minutes and the like. Reporters were still seen as reasonably respectable figures not afraid to root out corruption. That was in the 1980s. Even in fictional television dramas from the 1970s, reporters were shown as folks trying to do the right thing, on average, trying to get the news out there about the random bad guy of the week on said show.

Today?

We've run ourselves into the ground with news that's little more than popcorn entertainment for the masses: politics-biased hyperbole that feels like it's just trying to fill time, distract and enrage citizens, and generally drag things out into a world of 24 hour news when, yes, sometimes folks just need to unplug from all the madness and chaos.

[The Imperium Empires]

Yes there is an outrage culture, only because it's all that will sell apparently.

[Kowani]

No, it’s a terrible idea. Or rather, his execution of it would have been.

why is it a terrible idea? The only terrible idea I see is having American soldiers on middle eastern soil. None of these issues involving ISIS would be happening right now if we didn't go overseas to Iraq to begin with. This country is so focused on other people's issues that it seems we lost sight of our own. Bring the troops home and let the Israelis, saudis, iranians, turks and whoever else squabble over their bullshit without us.

You see, we tried that. Turns out, pulling out without fixing things means that whoever picks up the pieces is going to hate you. Where do you think this recent wave of Islamic Terrorism came from, boredom?

[Galloism]

why is it a terrible idea? The only terrible idea I see is having American soldiers on middle eastern soil. None of these issues involving ISIS would be happening right now if we didn't go overseas to Iraq to begin with. This country is so focused on other people's issues that it seems we lost sight of our own. Bring the troops home and let the Israelis, saudis, iranians, turks and whoever else squabble over their bullshit without us.

You see, we tried that. Turns out, pulling out without fixing things means that whoever picks up the pieces is going to hate you. Where do you think this recent wave of Islamic Terrorism came from, boredom?

Idle hands are the devils workshop.

[Phoenicaea]

why has it to sell more, so common man education is the cause.

[The Snow-Covered Mountains]

Yeah. I don't see how you could say there isn't.

When Trump dismissed U.S. attorneys at the beginning of his term, there was outrage from the media. It turns out that such dismissals are relatively common when new administrations begin.

I'm not even a MAGA-guy...I just hate seeing these sorts of false crisis stories.

[Ostroeuropa]

Likewise for complaining about manspreading.

Exactly.

There are small problems that get overblown by people who have a need to start drama and outrage when little to none exist. The whole manspreading argument and defense of such is a perfect example.

This is treating the situation like it's two people in a house burning down, one brings up manspreading and the other is like "You're a moron" and they start arguing instead of putting out the fire.

You're both sidesing this to make it out to be something it isn't.

The *media* and *institutions* are pushing manspreading as an issue we should talk about and take seriously, and ordinary people are reacting to that notion with anger.

This is more like you picking up the phone to dial 999 and finding the operator won't shut the fuck up about manspreading and you're acting like "Well both sides are wrong because you're shouting at them for doing that instead of putting out the fire you claim you're so worried about.".

The consequences of allowing feminists to organize and have institutions built around feminism instead of cracking down on them inevitably leads to this situation. You can't act like feminists and anti-feminists are on equal terms when one has massive institutional advantages, and with those advantages, responsibilities they are transparently failing to adhere to. Hence all the outrage at them.

If i'm a firefighter and your house is on fire and i'm there picking my nose and watching it burn and you come over to shout at me, and I shout back at you, and some person comes along and says "Aha, see, if you'd both stop arguing, that fire would be put out.".

That's bullshit. That's gaslighting. All that does is bring us back to the original situation.

The way the fire gets put out is when we sack that firefighter and give someone else the job. The reason there is an argument at all in the first place is them failing to do what they are supposed to, and refusing to get out of the way and let someone else do it.

There wouldn't be an argument without those kind of journalists causing one.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's not a straw man when it's reality. CNN takes every opportunity to hate on trump, even in the rare instance that he's right (pulling out of syria is a great idea because that isn't our damn war to fight and we have battles to fight on our own soil) and fox takes every opportunity to tell it's viewers how trump is unfairly persecuted and everyone against trump is portrayed as being angry radical leftists when many moderate normal people can't stand him. I wonder why they can't stand him? Oh yeah, cause he's a nasty asshole with no decency or moral boundaries

CNN certainly doesn't like Trump, but your example is just total nonsense. The same is true of Fox, but in the reverse direction.

It's not total nonsense. The whole White Man Bad narrative has reached absurd levels and Trump is one vector by which they advance it. You don't recognize it because you're a feminist, and thus someone who goes in for that kind of systematic hate speech, same as an open anti-Semite wouldn't see the problem with Der Stormer. That's one aspect of outrage culture, the culture has shifted so radically you're encouraged to be angry at whites and males for basically just existing at this point. The rationalizations and excuse making to pretend the internal prejudices of the feminist as being sourced in the external world and the behavior of men is not fooling anyone at this point. Just like if you said to a Nazi "You hate Jews just for existing" they'd rattle off a bunch of "reasons" and articulate an internally consistent set of rationalizations for their hostility, but it's not the Jew, it's the Nazi, they're externalizing an internal problem.

Exhibit A; Men Kampf.
https://www.reddit.com/r/menkampf/

Examples from CNN in particular.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... o_push_on/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... 250m_over/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... istics_in/

And so on, and so on.

The Trump election and Trump presidency in general sent this into overdrive.

Fundamentally politics is the practice of designating in groups and out groups, and which groups it is okay to subject to violence. All else is window dressing. Feminism, by its nature and how it is constructed, is anti-male and outgroups males both in rhetoric and in ideology, and in the process, dismisses, justifies, or belittles violence against them in structural terms. Because it's a demography based politics, no matter what males do, they will continue to be outgrouped, demonized, and so on. (Hence the fabrication of grievances, cooking of statistics, etc.).

So it goes for a Trump, who has become symbolic of white males to the feminist media like CNN. He could say anything, do anything, and they would continue to attack him and vilify him.

[West Leas Oros 2]

CNN certainly doesn't like Trump, but your example is just total nonsense. The same is true of Fox, but in the reverse direction.

It's not total nonsense. The whole White Man Bad narrative has reached absurd levels and Trump is one vector by which they advance it. You don't recognize it because you're a feminist, and thus someone who goes in for that kind of systematic hate speech, same as an open anti-Semite wouldn't see the problem with Der Stormer. That's one aspect of outrage culture, the culture has shifted so radically you're encouraged to be angry at whites and males for basically just existing at this point. The rationalizations and excuse making to pretend the internal prejudices of the feminist as being sourced in the external world and the behavior of men is not fooling anyone at this point. Just like if you said to a Nazi "You hate Jews just for existing" they'd rattle off a bunch of "reasons" and articulate an internally consistent set of rationalizations for their hostility, but it's not the Jew, it's the Nazi, they're externalizing an internal problem.

Exhibit A; Men Kampf.
https://www.reddit.com/r/menkampf/

Examples from CNN in particular.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... o_push_on/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... 250m_over/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... istics_in/

And so on, and so on.

The Trump election and Trump presidency in general sent this into overdrive.

Fundamentally politics is the practice of designating in groups and out groups, and which groups it is okay to subject to violence. All else is window dressing. Feminism, by its nature and how it is constructed, is anti-male and outgroups males both in rhetoric and in ideology, and in the process, dismisses, justifies, or belittles violence against them in structural terms. Because it's a demography based politics, no matter what males do, they will continue to be outgrouped, demonized, and so on. (Hence the fabrication of grievances, cooking of statistics, etc.).

So it goes for a Trump, who has become symbolic of white males to the feminist media like CNN. He could say anything, do anything, and they would continue to attack him and vilify him.

Gotta say, there's something fundamentally wrong with Trump's wrongdoing being used as a casus belli against an entire identity, when all it really proves is that Trump is a dumbfuck and an asshole, which was already pretty obvious.