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Would you take the deal?

No (please explain)
12
17%
Yes (I would feel no resentment, this is 100% a gain overall and the King is really doing me a favor)
21
30%
Yes (I would feel little bit of resentment, I am gaining more than I'm losing so I won't feel TOO resentful, but its still a bit patronizing)
16
23%
Yes (I would feel moderate resentment, I am human and I cannot help it, this is exploitation)
6
9%
Yes (I would feel a lot of resentment, I 100% hate the fact that I have to do this, those smug royals, if I could I would get rid of them all)
6
9%
Other
8
12%
 
Total votes : 69

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:34 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Galloism wrote:Let’s be honest, if you say “you might be Witch Hitler”, you are 100% Witch Hitler.

I know, right?

This isn't even a passably "clever" twist, like finding out Te Kā is Te Fiti. It's like learning that Ursula is the bad guy. "Who would have seen that coming?!"

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Infected Mushroom wrote:The 18 percent combined who say Yes but will feel moderate t high resentment is what I’m really interested in

That typifies what I’m trying to get at with the thread

This really is human nature in display

Also, I like how there’s a gradient with the vote options


Nah. Loads of people are just not answering your polls until 'roll into a pond and quietly drown' is added as an option to this and all subsequent hypotheticals.

What about "Get burned at the stake for witchcraft by the Inquisition"?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:36 am

Pacomia wrote:No. If anything, I’ll be a mascot for the Jacobins.


so then for you you don't like the Options where you accept the deal by the king because its a matter of ideology?
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Postby Galloism » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Heloin wrote:Thank Ifreann for that one. If I'm remembering correctly he's the one that came up with it about a year ago.

Did I? Awesome.

First use of Witch Hitler as a title appears to be this post, though it was in the midst of a discussion surrounding Hitler 2.0. Witch Hitler is a much better title than Hitler 2.0.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Did I? Awesome.

First use of Witch Hitler as a title appears to be this post, though it was in the midst of a discussion surrounding Hitler 2.0. Witch Hitler is a much better title than Hitler 2.0.


Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:19 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:First use of Witch Hitler as a title appears to be this post, though it was in the midst of a discussion surrounding Hitler 2.0. Witch Hitler is a much better title than Hitler 2.0.


Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.

Having coined the name, I offer NSG this wisdom.

If you meet Witch Hitler, kill her.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.

Having coined the name, I offer NSG this wisdom.

If you meet Witch Hitler, kill her.

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Ifreann wrote:Having coined the name, I offer NSG this wisdom.

If you meet Witch Hitler, kill her.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Having coined the name, I offer NSG this wisdom.

If you meet Witch Hitler, kill her.

Can I sig this?

Does a dog have Buddha nature?

Yes, of course.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:32 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Can I sig this?

Does a dog have Buddha nature?

Yes, of course.

Thanks
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Postby Heloin » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:06 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Nah. Loads of people are just not answering your polls until 'roll into a pond and quietly drown' is added as an option to this and all subsequent hypotheticals.

What about "Get burned at the stake for witchcraft by the Inquisition"?

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Ifreann wrote:Did I? Awesome.

First use of Witch Hitler as a title appears to be this post, though it was in the midst of a discussion surrounding Hitler 2.0. Witch Hitler is a much better title than Hitler 2.0.

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Postby Caracasus » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:21 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:First use of Witch Hitler as a title appears to be this post, though it was in the midst of a discussion surrounding Hitler 2.0. Witch Hitler is a much better title than Hitler 2.0.


Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.


That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:14 am

Caracasus wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.


That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?


... no?

Her motor skills/control is pretty decent
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:30 am

Caracasus wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.


That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?

Fucking lol.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:02 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?


... no?

Her motor skills/control is pretty decent


Are they that good that she avoids the great big goblin pushing her wheelchair down a slope into a pond?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:54 am

Caracasus wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
... no?

Her motor skills/control is pretty decent


Are they that good that she avoids the great big goblin pushing her wheelchair down a slope into a pond?


All I mean is that an Annie Holstadt with her wand and the power of the Relics is able to place a curse on entire armies and burn whole cities down with magical fire

Some of this takes good motor control

She’s also said to be very fast; its unlikely she would fall into a lake

A crippled Annie though? She can’t move
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Postby Eastern Aestorusia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:08 am

I'd do it, feeling no permanent resentment in my soul afterward.

I'd just remind myself that I didn't help anyone. No citizenry is going to pardon a tyrannic monarch if he takes the time to showcase a crippled girl. Besides, I'd have to take into account that his strategy backfires. And if it doesn't backfire, and if it is successful, to what extent is it successful? This is medieval Europe. CNN, FOX, and newspapers don't exist.

To paraphrase, I helped no one.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:33 am

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Still more reasonable than a lot of the other posts

At least this is with a realistic understanding of the culture and the system (and you reserve the right to back out of the plan later if you end up liking the system)

Also, remember that you may or may not be Annie, it is possible the memories never return

Let’s be honest, if you say “you might be Witch Hitler”, you are 100% Witch Hitler.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:43 am

Eastern Aestorusia wrote:I'd do it, feeling no permanent resentment in my soul afterward.

I'd just remind myself that I didn't help anyone. No citizenry is going to pardon a tyrannic monarch if he takes the time to showcase a crippled girl. Besides, I'd have to take into account that his strategy backfires. And if it doesn't backfire, and if it is successful, to what extent is it successful? This is medieval Europe. CNN, FOX, and newspapers don't exist.

To paraphrase, I helped no one.

I mean, IM has an awful habit of not knowing how the middle ages work. (Thinking that Medieval wars were glorious despite them being some of the most brutal and 'dishonorable' wars in human history up until the World Wars, that Medicine Existed, that Basic Gender Equality existed, that people weren't brutally killed for even the most minor of offences, etc) So...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:53 am

Caracasus wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie wouldn't understand what it means though. Since in her timeline there's no Hitler yet (and there might never be since the past leading up to it is so different).

If you walked up to her and said "Hi Witch Hitler."

She would blink with her large eyes, confused.


That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?

Maybe she casts spells by blinking instead of by wiggling her nose.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:19 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Are they that good that she avoids the great big goblin pushing her wheelchair down a slope into a pond?


All I mean is that an Annie Holstadt with her wand and the power of the Relics is able to place a curse on entire armies and burn whole cities down with magical fire

Some of this takes good motor control

She’s also said to be very fast; its unlikely she would fall into a lake

A crippled Annie though? She can’t move

So this is the perfect moment to kill Witch Hitler then?
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The Two Jerseys wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
That's cos she is the hitler of this reality. I don't really care about the size of her eyes. Does she blink so hard that it causes her to roll into a pond?

Maybe she casts spells by blinking instead of by wiggling her nose.

Sneezing would be very inconvenient…
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:55 am

Kowani wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Maybe she casts spells by blinking instead of by wiggling her nose.

Sneezing would be very inconvenient…

It's like giving a loaded Sten to someone with a habit of dropping things.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:05 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
All I mean is that an Annie Holstadt with her wand and the power of the Relics is able to place a curse on entire armies and burn whole cities down with magical fire

Some of this takes good motor control

She’s also said to be very fast; its unlikely she would fall into a lake

A crippled Annie though? She can’t move

So this is the perfect moment to kill Witch Hitler then?


how does this relate to the hypothetical?
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Postby Heloin » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:16 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:So this is the perfect moment to kill Witch Hitler then?


how does this relate to the hypothetical?

Well since we're Witch Hitler, wheeling ourselves into the swamp would kill Witch Hitler.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:25 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
how does this relate to the hypothetical?

Well since we're Witch Hitler, wheeling ourselves into the swamp would kill Witch Hitler.


the premise of the hypothetical is that you may or may not be

this was intended to be more trivia than a central aspect of the hypothetical

you're supposed to focus on cost-benefit analysis
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Postby Galloism » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:26 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Kowani wrote:Sneezing would be very inconvenient…

It's like giving a loaded Sten to someone with a habit of dropping things.

How would sleeping work?
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