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Hypothetical: A Crippled Annie

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Would you take the deal?

No (please explain)
12
17%
Yes (I would feel no resentment, this is 100% a gain overall and the King is really doing me a favor)
21
30%
Yes (I would feel little bit of resentment, I am gaining more than I'm losing so I won't feel TOO resentful, but its still a bit patronizing)
17
24%
Yes (I would feel moderate resentment, I am human and I cannot help it, this is exploitation)
6
9%
Yes (I would feel a lot of resentment, I 100% hate the fact that I have to do this, those smug royals, if I could I would get rid of them all)
6
9%
Other
8
11%
 
Total votes : 70

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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:51 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
So you would kill yourself in this hypo just in the vague hunch that you might be Holstadt?

How fascinating

You're not telling for literally no reason. That means we are.


I can only comment on your state of mind at the moment you make the choice

At that point you have no reason to believe you are necessarily Annie Holstadt
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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:00 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You're not telling for literally no reason. That means we are.


I can only comment on your state of mind at the moment you make the choice

At that point you have no reason to believe you are necessarily Annie Holstadt

That's a cop out answer and you know it. We're not Witch Hitler when you want us not to throw ourselves into NCR's pond but we will be the second we don't.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:03 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I can only comment on your state of mind at the moment you make the choice

At that point you have no reason to believe you are necessarily Annie Holstadt

That's a cop out answer and you know it. We're not Witch Hitler when you want us not to throw ourselves into NCR's pond but we will be the second we don't.


I’m saying there is a probability

But in scenario... you don’t know which it is (unless something happens later)

At the moment the king extends the deal, your past is shrouded in mystery

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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:05 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:That's a cop out answer and you know it. We're not Witch Hitler when you want us not to throw ourselves into NCR's pond but we will be the second we don't.


I’m saying there is a probability

But in scenario... you don’t know which it is (unless something happens later)

At the moment the king extends the deal, your past is shrouded in mystery

You saying any of that makes the answer yes, we are Witch Hitler.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:25 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I can only comment on your state of mind at the moment you make the choice

At that point you have no reason to believe you are necessarily Annie Holstadt

That's a cop out answer and you know it. We're not Witch Hitler when you want us not to throw ourselves into NCR's pond but we will be the second we don't.

It's silly, actually

"I want to die."
"But you're witch hitler"
"I want to die more"
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:43 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:I'd be Witch Hitler.

I'm making atonement, by drowning in this pond.


But your adopted parents will be heartbroken

And so will the new friends you’ve made

The adopted parents who are poisoning you to keep you paralysed and your memories blocked?
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 am

Petition to get IM to add 'roll into the duckpond and quietly drown' as a poll option.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:24 am

Caracasus wrote:Petition to get IM to add 'roll into the duckpond and quietly drown' as a poll option.


There’s already an Other on the poll for the less realistic options
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Petition to get IM to add 'roll into the duckpond and quietly drown' as a poll option.


There’s already an Other on the poll for the less realistic options

I don't know about "less realistic" -- there's several of us in there already.

... How big is this pond?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
But your adopted parents will be heartbroken

And so will the new friends you’ve made

The adopted parents who are poisoning you to keep you paralysed and your memories blocked?


Where’s it say?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The adopted parents who are poisoning you to keep you paralysed and your memories blocked?


Where’s it say?

That's obviously what's happening.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Where’s it say?

That's obviously what's happening.


Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:32 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's obviously what's happening.


Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

Sound like they don't care.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

Sound like they don't care.


Maybe something absolutely horrendous happened to you to cause the memory loss

Maybe they’ve decided its better that you don’t know?

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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's obviously what's happening.


Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

Because you're hypotheticals follow the format of tv, anime, and movies. It's not hard to guess the twist.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's obviously what's happening.


Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

They may think that they care, but clearly they are dangerous people.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's obviously what's happening.


Why couldn’t they really care about you but want to protect you from traumatic memories?

If they even suspect I'm Witch Hitler -- a dangerous woman with homicidal latent magic -- then they're guilty of harbouring a fugitive and I question their motives. If I am Witch Hitler, and they know it and that's why they're trying to keep knowledge of my past a secret, I'm even more suspicious of their motives -- who's to say what a drugged woman with latent murderous tendencies and magic could do if her new "family" fed her with the kind of lies that made her kill before?

To the pond with me!
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sound like they don't care.


Maybe something absolutely horrendous happened to you to cause the memory loss

Maybe they’ve decided its better that you don’t know?

If I decided that it's better that you don't play video games or watch TV any more, would you be happy with that?
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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sound like they don't care.


Maybe something absolutely horrendous happened to you to cause the memory loss

Maybe they’ve decided its better that you don’t know?

They're keeping me, Witch Hitler, safe because they're magic Neo-Nazis.They're bad people, now push me into the pond already.

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Postby Adad Civilization » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 am

Why does everyone want to commit suicide in this thread?
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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:41 am

Adad Civilization wrote:Why does everyone want to commit suicide in this thread?

Because we're Witch Hitler. Like Hitler but a witch and killed hundreds of millions. Join us in the pond, feel the fish nibble away at you.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:42 am

Adad Civilization wrote:Why does everyone want to commit suicide in this thread?

There's a not-insignificant chance that the character we are asked to be is really a genocidal war-criminal named Witch Annie (or Witch Hitler, depending on perspective).

IRL, we as people don't want to commit suicide (and if anyone does, there are links at the top of NSG -- sorry to break the game; my responsibility has to come out periodically, given the topic). It's just the woman we are being asked to play.
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Postby Adad Civilization » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 am

Heloin wrote:
Adad Civilization wrote:Why does everyone want to commit suicide in this thread?

Because we're Witch Hitler. Like Hitler but a witch and killed hundreds of millions. Join us in the pond, feel the fish nibble away at you.

Oh... Her...

Anyways, no thanks, I don't wanna join this suicide cult.

Besides, baptism in literal fire is a much better punishment
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Postby Andsed » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:46 am

Heloin wrote:
Adad Civilization wrote:Why does everyone want to commit suicide in this thread?

Because we're Witch Hitler. Like Hitler but a witch and killed hundreds of millions. Join us in the pond, feel the fish nibble away at you.

One of us one of us one of us!

But yeah I´m telling that king to eat my ass and then Naruto rolling into the pond.
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Postby Adad Civilization » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:09 am

As for the hypothetical at hand, No I would not. If a king is so shitty he has democratic rebels in the 13th century, he deserves it.
IC Year: 5278 BCE
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