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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:25 am

As someone who is overweight, yes, yes it is.


Now a little bit overweight, probably not no, being largely overweight, very much so.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:31 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:As someone who is overweight, yes, yes it is.


Now a little bit overweight, probably not no, being largely overweight, very much so.

I think a little bit overweight is healthy in the same way that a 51/49 ratio is unbalanced.

Like, technically yeah, but negligibly so.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:33 am

Absolutely not. Obesity is good and shows that you're rich and from a rich country. Plus, it's good for the economy. Eat MORE. MORE! MORE!!!

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:34 am

Define overweight is the question. 20 lbs, or 200 lbs? As I recall reading physical conditioning is more important than weight to overall health. But I dont know many 400 lb people in good physical condition
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Postby Greater Loegria » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:35 am

Of course it is, your body simply cannot function as well as it ought to and you will sweat more easily, find it harder to run.

Being overweight is essentially simplified to; you're eating more than you burn off and therefore your body is expanding. If you eat a balanced diet and regularly exercise then you should stay fairly trim.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:38 am

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Postby Dytarma » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:31 am

Bombadil wrote:
Dytarma wrote:It's not so much the cartilage, it's the fat, specifically the visceral fat surrounding the organs, that causes medical problems. He's also like 6'3", so that may have something to do with the joints as well.


Indeed, there's different types of fat..

Are Sumo wrestlers unhealthy..?

I already know the answer to that, they're fat is immediately under the skin, not surrounding the organs.

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Postby Chestaan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:42 am

Generally the evidence seems to point to it being unhealthy, depends on the degree of overweightness of course. However, it is important to point out that this in no way means it is ok to bully or harass those who are overweight, as some people seem to think.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:44 am

A little bit of fat is beneficial, but the whole meaning of "overweight" is so nebulous and vague.
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Postby Arkhane » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:46 am

It's on the "over" part of the "weight".

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Postby GLDF » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:35 pm

Yes, it is. It is very harmful.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:36 pm

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Postby The Imperium Empires » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:58 pm

It should be noted that the BMI index is not exactly a great system to measure someones weight off, of which many people do so.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:08 am

Not necessarily, although it certainly can be. A bit like smoking.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:45 am

Let's do some fat body building. :p
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:49 am

Yes, excessive body fat is unhealthy. If you mean muscles, then sure: it isn't. But excessive body fat has and will lead usually to health problems if not dealt with.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:40 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:Yes, excessive body fat is unhealthy. If you mean muscles, then sure: it isn't. But excessive body fat has and will lead usually to health problems if not dealt with.

That is common sense.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:59 am

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Dytarma wrote:Yes, it really is unhealthy. Friends are having joint problems because of it.

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. That still leaves the question of why big pharma relies upon...


Is this an American joke that I'm too European to understand? The NHS could do with getting some cheaper medication but other than that I don't understand why "bIG pHaRma" is such a boogyman.

Anyway, being overwight is obviously unhealthy nomatter what your politics are.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:10 am

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Okay, now we're getting somewhere. That still leaves the question of why big pharma relies upon...


Is this an American joke that I'm too European to understand? The NHS could do with getting some cheaper medication but other than that I don't understand why "bIG pHaRma" is such a boogyman.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:12 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Is this an American joke that I'm too European to understand? The NHS could do with getting some cheaper medication but other than that I don't understand why "bIG pHaRma" is such a boogyman.

Scapegoatism

tl;dr: "Healthcare is expensive in the states for reasons beyond my comprehention, therefore it's evil and cannot be trusted."

It's essentially anti-science. It's the reason why we have anti-vaxxers, homoeopathy nuts, and people who believe smoking is A-OK


Makes sense :/
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Postby Takso » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:27 am

The idea that there can be "health at every size" is a myth spread by fat propagandists. Unhealthy food should be taxed for the sake of public health, sugary beverages at 10-20%: https://www.dietitians.ca/Dietitians-Vi ... ation.aspx

Additional restrictions should be placed on marketing unhealthy products that cost taxpayers billions annually in health expenditures.

"Fat activists" should be also fined for spreading misinformation and glorifying obesity. That way they'll have less money to spend on getting fat (most of these people are obese in denial). It's a win win.

Want to help people be more confident with their bodies? Start by not encouraging them to destroy their bodies in the first place by putting on lots of fat.

"Fat acceptance" is equivalent to saying smokers who have lung cancer are just living an "alternative lifestyle" and that you can have "health at every lung capacity".

I hold the same view for other eating disorders. "Anorexia enthusiasts" should have their websites seized by the state, fined for encouraging life-threatening dietary practices, and receive mandatory psychological evaluations.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:35 am

Not necessarily, dietary science is really complicated and hard.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:53 am

Takso wrote:Unhealthy food should be taxed for the sake of public health, sugary beverages at 10-20%



As long as an equal tax is put on artificial sweeteners like aspartame. I'd much rather be fat than have cancer.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:00 am

We talking overweight or obese?

Obesity shortens your lifespan and can cause heart problems among other things. Overweight usually only means you're outside the weight range you're suppose to be in; not necessarily bad, but you should consider watching your diet.
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Postby Takso » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:02 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Takso wrote:Unhealthy food should be taxed for the sake of public health, sugary beverages at 10-20%



As long as an equal tax is put on artificial sweeteners like aspartame. I'd much rather be fat than have cancer.


That is categorically false. Aspartame is not considered a threat to human health and actually could be used to fight the obesity epidemic.

Wikipedia article on Aspartame wrote:The safety of aspartame has been studied since its discovery and is one of the most rigorously tested food ingredients. Aspartame has been deemed safe for human consumption by over 100 regulatory agencies in their respective countries, including the United States Food and Drug Administration, UK Food Standards Agency, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), Health Canada, and Australia-New Zealand.

As of 2017, reviews of clinical trials showed that using aspartame (or other non-nutritive sweeteners) in place of sugar reduces calorie intake and body weight in adults and children.

A 2017 review of metabolic effects by consuming aspartame found that it did not affect blood glucose, insulin, total cholesterol, triglycerides, calorie intake, or body weight, while high-density lipoprotein levels were higher.


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