So, diverting back to the thread... You're against telling children about Hell, if I remember correctly? Does that include mentioning it in a "We believe, others' don't and whatever you believe is cool" context?
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by The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:05 am
by Wadir » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:08 am
by UIS Leviathan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:10 am
The Free Joy State wrote:UIS Leviathan wrote:Then don’t say that?
Are you purposely wasting my time in order to act all cool and mysterious or something?
So, diverting back to the thread... You're against telling children about Hell, if I remember correctly? Does that include mentioning it in a "We believe, others' don't and whatever you believe is cool" context?
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by Great Robertia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:25 am
UIS Leviathan wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:So, diverting back to the thread... You're against telling children about Hell, if I remember correctly? Does that include mentioning it in a "We believe, others' don't and whatever you believe is cool" context?
I suppose that’s fine by me. I just don’t like when people are practically forcing it on their kids. I was raised without religion, my parents didn’t care if I believed in flying dildos or gods. I think I even went through a Hindu phase for a bit. I didn’t even know what my dad was until I was like 14.
by UIS Leviathan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:25 am
Naralanesia wrote:teach memes instead
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by Alvecia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:31 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:A little bit of fear of vengeful spiritual forces has long been a popular way to try to scare children into behaving well.
It seems unlikely to do lasting damage and it might steer them onto the right path until they're capable of making up their own minds. I have no problem with it.
by Great Robertia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:33 am
Alvecia wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:A little bit of fear of vengeful spiritual forces has long been a popular way to try to scare children into behaving well.
It seems unlikely to do lasting damage and it might steer them onto the right path until they're capable of making up their own minds. I have no problem with it.
Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
by Alvecia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:41 am
Great Robertia wrote:Alvecia wrote:Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
As someone who has recently turned to atheism, this rings so painfully true. It's sickening, that people are drilled with so much fear and dread for something not real.
Even to this day, whenever the devil is mentioned I get a flush of fear and anxiety, even though my brain immediately rushes to calm me down that it's not real and made up by people to scare others into believing their nonsense. That is what religion does to people, it scars them emotionally and deeply.
by UIS Leviathan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:42 am
Great Robertia wrote:Alvecia wrote:Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
As someone who has recently turned to atheism, this rings so painfully true. It's sickening, that people are drilled with so much fear and dread for something not real.
Even to this day, whenever the devil is mentioned I get a flush of fear and anxiety, even though my brain immediately rushes to calm me down that it's not real and made up by people to scare others into believing their nonsense. That is what religion does to people, it scars them emotionally and deeply.
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by The Grims » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:10 am
by The New California Republic » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:17 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:24 am
Alvecia wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:A little bit of fear of vengeful spiritual forces has long been a popular way to try to scare children into behaving well.
It seems unlikely to do lasting damage and it might steer them onto the right path until they're capable of making up their own minds. I have no problem with it.
Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
by Europa Undivided » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:26 am
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by The Grims » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:34 am
The New California Republic wrote:The Grims wrote:
Based on the assumption you are in favour of teaching children about hell I wonder if you are also in favour of teaching them about the hellish places of other religions.
Which I suggested on page 1.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:35 am
by Cappuccina » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:41 am
Alvecia wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:A little bit of fear of vengeful spiritual forces has long been a popular way to try to scare children into behaving well.
It seems unlikely to do lasting damage and it might steer them onto the right path until they're capable of making up their own minds. I have no problem with it.
Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
by New haven america » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:47 am
by Alvecia » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:48 am
Cappuccina wrote:Alvecia wrote:Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
What doesn't traumatize people nowadays?
by New haven america » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:48 am
Cappuccina wrote:Alvecia wrote:Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
What doesn't traumatize people nowadays?
by Ding Ling » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:50 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:In the interests of balance, this is why it is important to tell small children about the Scissorman who will cut off their fingers and toes with a large pair of scissors if he catches them going to church.
by New haven america » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:50 am
by Groot-Holland » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:52 am
Cappuccina wrote:Alvecia wrote:Anecdotally, lingering fear of hell is something that a lot of atheist “converts” struggle with even years after giving up their religion.
Depending on how it’s taught it can be in many instances almost traumatically ingrained, such that even knowing intellectually it is not real does not erase the emotional impact of it.
What doesn't traumatize people nowadays?
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