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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:33 am
by New haven america
HAs no one pieced together that's they're blaming the left because they know the tread is gonna gain more traction that way?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:45 am
by The Huskar Social Union
The left does this and the left does that

The left blahgalaghalag and the Left Halghalghalg

THE LEFT Alahahhaafhg

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:46 am
by The Alma Mater
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The left does this and the left does that

The left blahgalaghalag and the Left Halghalghalg

THE LEFT Alahahhaafhg


If you prefer we could use THE SINISTER instead ;) ?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:45 am
by Des-Bal
So it looks like a lot of people are using your charge against the left and the probable bias of the source to disengage from the argument. I can't say I'm unsympathetic to that. I don't know how special the left are in this regard. You're calling out hypocrisy in pushing to allow penis havers in women's bathrooms but assuming a penis will make you a rapist, and yet the entire justification for the right opposing the penis havers in women's bathrooms is that they're rapists.

I think sex segregation quickly becomes nonsensical in the modern era. For example, would anybody taking this woman's side and agreeing she shouldn't have had to share the room with men maintain their position if she was complaining about sharing a room with lesbians?

The Huskar Social Union wrote:The left does this and the left does that

The left blahgalaghalag and the Left Halghalghalg

THE LEFT Alahahhaafhg



The OP mentioned the left exactly once.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 am
by Risottia
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Why is the left both the quickest to insinuate ...

Exactly, where does your source state that?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:58 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
Scomagia wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Why?

For the same reason that it makes sense for me to be uncomfortable sleeping in the same room as strangers who are much larger than I am. Presumably, these men weren't waifish and she wasn't an Amazon.

If size were the issue, weak men would be just as uncomfortable around strong women. Or armed women. Or women with information that could be used to extort him. Etc, etc, etc...

The issue is the difference in sexual selectivity. Of course the sex bore the child for 9 months would be more likely to be unwilling in the first place.

. . .

Cekoviu wrote:Anarchism, my dude. And either way, it's not all or nothing. There are differing degrees of support for hierarchy, and a lesser degree can absolutely place you further left.

Wouldn't that make libertarianism more left than economically-interventionist liberalism, at least while the hierarchy is prevented from intervening in economic matters? (Ie. The rich getting rich enough to buy politicians' loyalty.) Not unlike how anarchy in practice is eventually replaced by subsequent governments?

It's almost as if "lack of hierarchy" is a self-refuting idea.


Cekoviu wrote:I never said I agreed with it.

That's not the point. Either it comes with cause and effect reasoning attached, or it's not even saying anything in the first place, let alone anything with which to agree or disagree.


Cekoviu wrote:I guess it's strictly reasoning based on my observations. I think most other people would probably see the same if they spent time within various feminist and progressive spaces.

Any of which could be an unrepresentative sample, let alone unverifiable. I'm not sure


Cekoviu wrote:We absolutely need prison reform, and giving up on the penal system entirely as you seem to be doing is not the solution.

Well, you read me wrong, then. I'm talking about deterrents like an immediate and nearly-guaranteed risk of getting caught, not the penal system's heavy-duty punishments in lieu of a more significant chance of getting caught.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:00 am
by Chestaan
If you are afraid to stay in a room with someone purely based on their gender then you are a sexist. Like didn't everyone go mental at Mike Pence when he said he doesn't like to spend time alone with women who aren't his wife?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:01 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Chestaan wrote:If you are afraid to stay in a room with someone purely based on their gender then you are a sexist. Like didn't everyone go mental at Mike Pence when he said he doesn't like to spend time alone with women who aren't his wife?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:04 am
by Dumb Ideologies
Where do I go to get my brain reinflated after reading that OP?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:13 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
Chestaan wrote:If you are afraid to stay in a room with someone purely based on their gender then you are a sexist. Like didn't everyone go mental at Mike Pence when he said he doesn't like to spend time alone with women who aren't his wife?

Forgot to even mention that comparison. Same with that Twitch user too.

Adultery is perfectly legal, whereas rape is not. You'd think the idea of being tempted to engage in the former would be considered less heinous, not more.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:19 am
by The New California Republic
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Where do I go to get my brain reinflated after reading that OP?

I skimmed it so I don't think the effect was as adverse on me.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:19 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
Des-Bal wrote:So it looks like a lot of people are using your charge against the left and the probable bias of the source to disengage from the argument. I can't say I'm unsympathetic to that. I don't know how special the left are in this regard. You're calling out hypocrisy in pushing to allow penis havers in women's bathrooms but assuming a penis will make you a rapist, and yet the entire justification for the right opposing the penis havers in women's bathrooms is that they're rapists.

Or rather, that if the penis might cause even a few of them to be tempted to commit rape, that it's "not worth" the risk. I don't agree, as I get that often times trans identity is sincere and the risks of the opposite course of action would be even worse, but in any case, it is not as hypocritical.

Disengaging from the argument over this is not exactly the behaviour of a rational person.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:25 am
by Des-Bal
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Or rather, that if the penis might cause even a few of them to be tempted to commit rape, that it's "not worth" the risk. I don't agree, as I get that often times trans identity is sincere and the risks of the opposite course of action would be even worse, but in any case, it is not as hypocritical.

Disengaging from the argument over this is not exactly the behaviour of a rational person.


You didn't just say "hey this is hypocritical" you said "the left is the quickest to insinuate men in the same bedroom as women are bound to rape them." Nothing you've said suggests they're any quicker than the right and the bottom line is this one indefensible and barely relevant claim is undermining your position, I don't see why you wouldn't amend your post to recognize the hypocrisy without alleging they're worse than the right about this.