On the utility and desirability of dictation software

[Forsher]

Have you ever tried to use modern computing software to dictate substantial bodies of text?

I have. It does not work that well as hopefully this will demonstrate; I have in fact dictated the soapy. That are for example should be a vis abyss thas. And the soapy should be a capital o followed by a capital p.

However I am a great believer in the power of dictation. I look forward 2 a day where I could realistically write essays or reports by dictating to a computer or indeed a cheap mobile bracket as with the soapy).

Personally we find it interesting to vocalise out loud then to try and think inside my head. This is one reason why I think dictation could be very useful however I also believe that dictation could be twins saving as it would allow a decent record of brainstorming to occur. The brainstorming point is important because it includes a different skill to dictate text then it does to type (or indeed handwrite), which means but even people who prefer to type could via brainstorming benefit from improved dictation. There may also be accessibility arguments for dictation.

So what do you think question mark do you look forward to an era of high-quality free dictation software would you use it question mark and would it be possible full send it tatian software to ever managed to do grammar on the fly question mark will typing always be Xperia superior alternative 2 dictation question mark open racket edgy because it doesn't require talking out loud).

[Bear Stearns]

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

[Saiwania]

I'm in the typist for life category. I have imperfect speech (from being deaf for a few years in early childhood). To communicate well enough, I just avoid certain words entirely. Anyhow, chances are I can type faster or more accurately than any microphone based software. Its quieter and more deliberate. I simply have far more control with a keyboard.

[Merni]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

[Neko-koku]

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

Lmao. It is more hilarious in programming

ESCAPE POUND SIGN INCLUDE ESCAPE WHITESPACR ESCAPE LEFT ANGLE BRACKET S T D I O DOT H ESCAPE RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET ESCAPE NEWLINE
INT MAIN ESCAPE LEFT PARENTHESIS INT ESCAPE WHITESPACE A R G C COMMA ESCAPE WHITESPACE CHAR STAR ESCAPE WHITESPACE A R G V ESCAPE LEFT SQUARE BRACKET ESCAPE RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET ESCAPE RIGHT PARENTHESIS ESCAPE LEFT CURLY BRACKET ESCAPE NEWLINE

......

If that's feasible we have to simplify common lines like this:

COMMAND INCLUDE S T D I O DOT H = ESCAPE POUND SIGN INCLUDE ESCAPE WHITESPACE...

COMMAND NEW FUNCTION
RETURN INT
NAME MAIN
PARAMETERS
INT A R G C
CHAR DOUBLE STAR A R G V
END

[Neko-koku]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

Lmao I didn't see your stuff..

[Page]

Dictation software is absolutely great for people with disabilities or injuries, such as if one is blind or their hands are injured and they can't type. I suppose it can also be useful for people constantly on the go, if they need to dictate something while driving.

But for able-bodied people, I think it's definitely preferrable to type. Anyone can type quickly and effectively if they just do it enough. I failed typing class back in school, I was a hunt and peck type. But then I started going on internet forums and without ever making a conscious effort to improve my typing, I noticed one day I typed very quickly with all my fingers and without looking at the keyboard. And no, I don't elevate my wrists, that's bullshit.

[Neko-koku]

Simplified version:

(INCLUDE) S T D I O DOT H
(FUNCTION)
<RETURN> VOID
<NAME> MAIN
<PARAMETER LIST> <N/A> <END>
{PRINT F} CAPITALIZED H E L L O WHITESPACE W O R L D EXCLAMATION

() includes mandatory commands
<> includes omitted stuff
{} includes new commands added by the IDE as it processes includes and other code

Here (INCLUDE LIST)[command 1] (SEP) [command 2] ... (SEP) [command n](END) can be used to replace (INCLUDE) commands

[Bear Stearns]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

This is why Excel shortcuts exist.

[Neko-koku]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

This is why Excel shortcuts exist.

Yeah. To actually simplify things in oral coding you pretty much need to invent a new programming language.

[Galloism]

I’m still trying to figure out what “the soapy” is.

[Luziyca]

Dictation software is absolutely great for people with disabilities or injuries, such as if one is blind or their hands are injured and they can't type. I suppose it can also be useful for people constantly on the go, if they need to dictate something while driving.

But for able-bodied people, I think it's definitely preferrable to type. Anyone can type quickly and effectively if they just do it enough. I failed typing class back in school, I was a hunt and peck type. But then I started going on internet forums and without ever making a conscious effort to improve my typing, I noticed one day I typed very quickly with all my fingers and without looking at the keyboard. And no, I don't elevate my wrists, that's bullshit.

I do agree with you: dictation software is great for certain types of people, but for the normal user, typing is more efficient.

[Kubra]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

lmao imagine dictating formulas into Excel

EQUALS IF, OPEN PARENTHESES, A9 EQUALS B10, TRUE, CLOSED PARENTHESES

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

Well I'm sure it would work with python, it's just like english, right? /s

[Cekoviu]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

Imagine dictating actual code.
"HASH INCLUDE LESS-THAN SYMBOL S T D I O DOT H GREATER THAN SYMBOL
VOID MAIN OPEN PARENTHESES CLOSE PARENTHESES
OPEN CURLY BRACKETS
PRINT F OPEN PARENTHESES OPEN DOUBLE QUOTES HELLO WORLD CLOSE DOUBLE QUOTES CLOSE PARENTHESES SEMICOLON
CLOSE CURLY BRACKETS"
All that trouble for something which I could write or type in a few seconds:

#include <stdio.h>
void main()
{
printf("Hello world");
}

Well I'm sure it would work with python, it's just like english, right? /s

Hahahahaha
kill me

[Cekoviu]

So excited to write regular expressions with this, by the way. And don't get me started on the fun of using sed!

[Kubra]

Well I'm sure it would work with python, it's just like english, right? /s

Hahahahaha
kill me

I'm told python is a good 1st language, but as a 2nd it is *fucking* horrible
Fuck off I just want the GPA boost, not to have a computer language indirectly tell me I need to clean my room

[Cekoviu]

Hahahahaha
kill me

I'm told python is a good 1st language, but as a 2nd it is *fucking* horrible
Fuck off I just want the GPA boost, not to have a computer language indirectly tell me I need to clean my room

I learned C# first and haven't touched Python since first having to learn it; it feels simplistic and weak compared to more powerful languages in the C family/Java.

[Kubra]

I'm told python is a good 1st language, but as a 2nd it is *fucking* horrible
Fuck off I just want the GPA boost, not to have a computer language indirectly tell me I need to clean my room

I learned C# first and haven't touched Python since first having to learn it; it feels simplistic and weak compared to more powerful languages in the C family/Java.

well python isn't really a language for using, it's a learning/teachers tool. Learning because it puts students in the habit of rigidly neat coding, teachers tool because it makes it far easier to assess for grades. That's why most college classes these days lead off with it.

[UniversalCommons]

I type faster than I can dictate things. I am also more grammatical when I type. No dictation software for me. If it could dictate and identify a conversation between more than one person, then dictation software would be useful. Interviewing software.

[Neko-koku]

I learned C# first and haven't touched Python since first having to learn it; it feels simplistic and weak compared to more powerful languages in the C family/Java.

well python isn't really a language for using, it's a learning/teachers tool. Learning because it puts students in the habit of rigidly neat coding, teachers tool because it makes it far easier to assess for grades. That's why most college classes these days lead off with it.

Python IS a very useful language. It is just very slow for computers. However it is very human-friendly and has a lot of cool packages.

[Cekoviu]

well python isn't really a language for using, it's a learning/teachers tool. Learning because it puts students in the habit of rigidly neat coding, teachers tool because it makes it far easier to assess for grades. That's why most college classes these days lead off with it.

Python IS a very useful language. It is just very slow for computers. However it is very human-friendly and has a lot of cool packages.

I recently read an article about the debate between computer and human friendliness. I'm on the side of the former for the most part, so Python isn't my style. I'll see if I can find it, because it was pretty interesting.

[Forsher]

I want handwriting recognition built into paper somehow so that I can write naturally with a normal pen and have it transferred into a computer.

Would scanning the paper be insufficient?

Incidentally all the coding (or even Excel) points are both hilarious and fair.

I’m still trying to figure out what “the soapy” is.

This OP.

It wouldn't even recognise "this"... got: vis abyss thas.

well python isn't really a language for using, it's a learning/teachers tool. Learning because it puts students in the habit of rigidly neat coding, teachers tool because it makes it far easier to assess for grades. That's why most college classes these days lead off with it.

It's common in data science. (R's shit with big data.)

[Kasa Tkoth Sphere]

I find talking for long periods of time stressful, and I find the ability to quickly jump back and fix awkward wording more useful than any hands-free advantages that dictation software might give me. Nonetheless, I'm aware that some people need it in order to have a useful workflow or the like, so if it gets better and their lives improve, I'm not exactly going to protest.

[Neko-koku]

Python IS a very useful language. It is just very slow for computers. However it is very human-friendly and has a lot of cool packages.

I recently read an article about the debate between computer and human friendliness. I'm on the side of the former for the most part, so Python isn't my style. I'll see if I can find it, because it was pretty interesting.

Yeah it is a trade off. There are computer-friendly languages such as various Assembly, C, C++, Rust etc. There are also human-friendly ones such as Python and Ruby.

[Alanis Star]

I have to admit that my first thought when I read "dictation" was about dictators, so... Let's just say I had a completely weird-ass thought of "a software run by a dictator? Like N. Korea?"

On a serious note... If it becomes much more accurate and powerful, I might just get around using that. Sometimes you just don't feel like typing, and just want to say out your thoughts.

As for programming? I think I would rather type, regardless of language used. So many parameters, symbols, etc, that could go very, very wrong.