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Postby Novus America » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:00 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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Well done lad, well done indeed.



You might actually have a point to stand on, if only the facts supported that argument. Sadly, they do not. Violent crime in the US is at an almost 30 year low and still dropping according to the FBI's data, as well as violent property crime as well.


There is a shooting every day in the US. Bringing body armor to protect yourself is a logical move.


No, because the US us really big. Your chance of dying from a gunshot is tiny.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:41 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
There is a shooting every day in the US. Bringing body armor to protect yourself is a logical move.


No, because the US us really big. Your chance of dying from a gunshot is tiny.


If I remember the math correctly from the last GCT, it's something like less then a single percent of a single percent of people in the us are victims of a random act of homicide in the US, and dropping.

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Postby Shonburg » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:47 pm

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This but unironically. They are spies.

What ever happened to innocence until guilt is proven by an impartial jury during a fair and speedy trial?

Non-citizens suspected of espionage can have their visa revoked and be removed from the US without trial.
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Postby Cetacea » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:39 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Point being that bringing a bulletproof vest into the country given the state of affairs regarding guns is reasonable and should be allowed, perhaps even mandated at some point


You might actually have a point to stand on, if only the facts supported that argument. Sadly, they do not. Violent crime in the US is at an almost 30 year low and still dropping according to the FBI's data, as well as violent property crime as well.


You know that quoting stats that say the country has gone from "Terrble" to just "really bad" isnt actually helpful

the fact remains I'm more likely to get shot in the US than I am in Germany, Canada or New Zealand. Indeed the Countries that issued US Travel Warnings do so because "a guarantee that you will not get shot in the US is impossible"
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Postby Novus America » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:31 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:


You might actually have a point to stand on, if only the facts supported that argument. Sadly, they do not. Violent crime in the US is at an almost 30 year low and still dropping according to the FBI's data, as well as violent property crime as well.


You know that quoting stats that say the country has gone from "Terrble" to just "really bad" isnt actually helpful

the fact remains I'm more likely to get shot in the US than I am in Germany, Canada or New Zealand. Indeed the Countries that issued US Travel Warnings do so because "a guarantee that you will not get shot in the US is impossible"


A guarantee that you will not be shot in Germany, Canada or New Zealand is impossible.
No country can give that guarantee. Sure we have a higher murder rate (but a massive portion is gang on gang, criminal on criminal) than some countries, but a lower one than many others.

We are not the best, but nor are we the worst on that.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Postby Esternial » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:25 pm

If it hadn't been security, surely the fashion police would have booked the lad.

Get a kevlar-lined blazer and start your autumn as the biggest fashion game in town. People will be aiming for your attention!

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Postby Anglo-Corpus » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:27 pm

Why's all the bad stuff happening here in Michigan all of a sudden?

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Postby Cetacea » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:46 pm

Anglo-Corpus wrote:Why's all the bad stuff happening here in Michigan all of a sudden?

Could be all that lead in the water supply is spilling over

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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:25 am

Anglo-Corpus wrote:Why's all the bad stuff happening here in Michigan all of a sudden?


Why's stuff being reported on in a swing state the year before a national election? Couldn't guess.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:33 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
There is a shooting every day in the US. Bringing body armor to protect yourself is a logical move.


No, because the US us really big. Your chance of dying from a gunshot is tiny.

Eeeehhhh

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:49 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
There is a shooting every day in the US. Bringing body armor to protect yourself is a logical move.


No, because the US us really big. Your chance of dying from a gunshot is tiny.

People act like most Americans die by gunshot wounds. It's ridiculous.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:52 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Anglo-Corpus wrote:Why's all the bad stuff happening here in Michigan all of a sudden?

Could be all that lead in the water supply is spilling over

The damn government is putting those chemicals in the water to control us all! The NWO is near!
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Postby Tokora » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:44 pm

GrEaT aLgErStOnIa wrote:
Cetacea wrote:Could be all that lead in the water supply is spilling over

The damn government is putting those chemicals in the water to control us all! The NWO is near!

Can't be any worse than the order we have.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:05 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Novus America wrote:
No, because the US us really big. Your chance of dying from a gunshot is tiny.

People act like most Americans die by gunshot wounds. It's ridiculous.


there has been 19 mass shootings so far this year, not exactly a small number

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:55 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:People act like most Americans die by gunshot wounds. It's ridiculous.


there has been 19 mass shootings so far this year, not exactly a small number


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