Immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship discharged

[Tekeristan]

I just got back from the Congo, where I chopped the hands and feet off dozens of indigenous people for failing to harvest enough naturally occurring rubber.

Thank you, Belgium ancestry

It’s not ancestry, it’s Chinese citizens

Ah, sorry, I meant to say exterminate native populations, break treaties, and murder strikers in mass

I'm a citizen of the U.S but I don't reflect its interests in what way whatsoever

[Novus America]

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If someone fails a background check, they should be able to appeal this or should be told why it failed, and given a chance to rectify. You don't just throw people out who fail it first time.

You can appeal to the Defense Office of Hearings and Appeals.
https://www.secnav.navy.mil/dusnp/Secur ... aining.pdf

This helps explain things a bit.

You are not guaranteed a right to serve in the military either.

[The South Falls]

Forever wars mean more money for the MIC but fuck the troops that come back, apparently.

[Novus America]

Forever wars mean more money for the MIC but fuck the troops that come back, apparently.

But that is not what happened here. These people had not served in combat. They failed a security clearance before they completed training.

Now did maybe some fail it for bad reasons? Perhaps.
And if it is true they are being denied a chance to appeal (that is apparently disputed) then that is wrong.

But that is quite different than the accusation you are making.

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So can we finally stop pretending this is about "border security" and "THE LAW" and admit our government wants to stop all immigration regardless of how legal it is?

[Tekeristan]

So can we finally stop pretending this is about "border security" and "THE LAW" and admit our government wants to stop all immigration regardless of how legal it is?

They don't want to stop all immigration - the goal is to let it happen but make it legally dangerous, so migrant workers can be used instead of native ones because of the added bonus that they can't pursue any legal protections.

i.e that recent chicken factory raid that arrested hundreds of workers. The owners aren't punished.

[Novus America]

So can we finally stop pretending this is about "border security" and "THE LAW" and admit our government wants to stop all immigration regardless of how legal it is?

Considering over a million immigrate a year, no.
Also this is naturalization, not immigration. These people had already immigrated to the US.

Because 40 people failed a security clearance that would have allowed faster citizenship process (they still can apply for citizenship by other means) you cannot indeed this to mean it is an attempt to ban all immigration.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

So can we finally stop pretending this is about "border security" and "THE LAW" and admit our government wants to stop all immigration regardless of how legal it is?

Considering over a million immigrate a year, no.
Also this is naturalization, not immigration. These people had already immigrated to the US.

Because 40 people failed a security clearance that would have allowed faster citizenship process (they still can apply for citizenship by other means) you cannot indeed this to mean it is an attempt to ban all immigration.

I hate how globalists try to normalize illegal immigration with arguments like this

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Considering over a million immigrate a year, no.
Also this is naturalization, not immigration. These people had already immigrated to the US.

Because 40 people failed a security clearance that would have allowed faster citizenship process (they still can apply for citizenship by other means) you cannot indeed this to mean it is an attempt to ban all immigration.

I hate how globalists try to normalize illegal immigration with arguments like this

Ah, "globalist", an impossibly vague, meaningless term to describe anyone who doesn't agree with you. What does "globalist" mean? Does it mean communists? Does it mean Jews? Does it mean politicians you hate? Does it mean the media?

Because the way I've seen this term thrown around, it's all or any of the above plus many other things.

Then there's postmodernism too, another term that's ubiquitous to the point of meaninglessness.

[Herador]

I hate how globalists try to normalize illegal immigration with arguments like this

Ah, "globalist", an impossibly vague, meaningless term to describe anyone who doesn't agree with you. What does "globalist" mean? Does it mean communists? Does it mean Jews? Does it mean politicians you hate? Does it mean the media?

Because the way I've seen this term thrown around, it's all or any of the above plus many other things.

Then there's postmodernism too, another term that's ubiquitous to the point of meaninglessness.

Globalist means any individual with basic compassion for another that lives more than 50 miles away in any direction.

[Gormwood]

Sure feels and sounds like as Donny Trump policy. Especially the part about stiffing people who do service for you.

Hopefully there will be less foreigners willing to join up with the U.S. military, at least while Donny is still in office.

[Gormwood]

The mistake in my view, was promising them US citizenship in the first place. Any Chinese from the PRC are untrustworthy I'd say. In lieu of giving them citizenship, I'm more in favor of giving them $100 to $1,000 each. Enough so they can travel well enough but their experience not being a total loss.

Next you'll say Hong Kongers should stop protesting China and submit to Chinese mastery.

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Ah, "globalist", an impossibly vague, meaningless term to describe anyone who doesn't agree with you. What does "globalist" mean? Does it mean communists? Does it mean Jews? Does it mean politicians you hate? Does it mean the media?

Because the way I've seen this term thrown around, it's all or any of the above plus many other things.

Then there's postmodernism too, another term that's ubiquitous to the point of meaninglessness.

Globalist means any individual with basic compassion for another that lives more than 50 miles away in any direction.

There is a definition I can get behind. I'm a globalist, whoo!

[Novus America]

Sure feels and sounds like as Donny Trump policy. Especially the part about stiffing people who do service for you.

Hopefully there will be less foreigners willing to join up with the U.S. military, at least while Donny is still in office.

40 people failing to get a security clearance and you automatically assume it still me conspiracy from the top? Seems a big logical leap there.

[Gagium]

Sure feels and sounds like as Donny Trump policy. Especially the part about stiffing people who do service for you.

Hopefully there will be less foreigners willing to join up with the U.S. military, at least while Donny is still in office.

40 people failing to get a security clearance and you automatically assume it still me conspiracy from the top? Seems a big logical leap there.

Haven't you heard? Orange man himself discharged them!

[Ethel mermania]

No one was discharged from service. These are potential recruits who are not going to get to serve in the armed forces because of these failed background checks.

That said, I hope these are legit failures, I like the idea of the program as military service as a path to citizenship

[Greed and Death]

US and China don’t have the best relations rn, a Chinese citizen in the military could be a spy, no one wants to take risks

We do not put foreign nationals in positions that require security clearances.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Total dick move.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Total dick move.

That citizens of a foreign country which has extremely tense relations are discharged? How’s that a dick move and not a logical just-to-be-safe decision?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Total dick move.

That citizens of a foreign country which has extremely tense relations are discharged? How’s that a dick move and not a logical just-to-be-safe decision?

How is it there fault that there country of origin has tense relations with the US?

They clearly liked the US enough to support it, that's why they wanted citizenship in the first place.

[New haven america]

Also, Trump has promised that any child born to US service people overseas won't automatically be US citizens.

It's like he's trying to lower recruitment numbers or something...

[The South Falls]

Also, Trump has promised that any child born to US service people overseas won't automatically be US citizens.

It's like he's trying to lower recruitment numbers or something...

That's why DARPA better haul ass with them robot soldiers

[Greed and Death]

Also, Trump has promised that any child born to US service people overseas won't automatically be US citizens.

It's like he's trying to lower recruitment numbers or something...

or drive recruitment only to those who support him.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Also, Trump has promised that any child born to US service people overseas won't automatically be US citizens.

It's like he's trying to lower recruitment numbers or something...

Sounds like a problem the US had sense Korean war, there was a MASH episode on it.

Still is a dumb move.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

That citizens of a foreign country which has extremely tense relations are discharged? How’s that a dick move and not a logical just-to-be-safe decision?

How is it there fault that there country of origin has tense relations with the US?

They clearly liked the US enough to support it, that's why they wanted citizenship in the first place.

There were thousands of KGB spies in the US during the cold war (and there could well be hundreds of modern Russian spies in the US today). The spies joined the military, penetrated top political circles, and became a part of the American business world. While the US and China are not as bad as Russia and the US were, keep in mind tensions are rising by the minute and it could escalate into an all out arms race not too long from now. Also keep in mind Chinese spies are quite active in the US, most notably Dianne Feinstein’s driver