Harry Potter Books Banned For "Real Spells And Curses"

[Neko-koku]

You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

I don't ignore the Old Testament. I've read and studied the OT. Are you questioning my knowledge of the OT?

Isn't it full of "NO PAGANISM"? I'm familiar with both testaments.

[Farnhamia]

I don't ignore the Old Testament. I've read and studied the OT. Are you questioning my knowledge of the OT?

Isn't it full of "NO PAGANISM?" I'm familiar with both testaments.

You could interpret it that way, I suppose. I don't. It's semantics, perhaps. We digress from the discussion of the misguided fellow in Tennessee, though.

[Australian rePublic]

Mate, I myself am a Christian. I know what we Christians believe in

You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" That's something Christianity agrees with Judaism at even though Judaism considers Christianity itself to be idolatry (they call it avodah zarah). Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

Harry Potter does not promote paganism.

[Bloodshade]

Teachers union President @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "Come on, the book is fantasy! And it's a damn good read. I'd like the government to issue a statement of support for our teachers and librarians, so kids can enjoy good books without interference from religious wackos, like Christians.

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You know, it'd actually be pretty rad to see the Reverend prove that Harry Potter spells invoke evil spirits.

[Saxipta]

No educated Catholic post enlightment thinks that books marketed as fiction contain real spells. This guy's a very odd exception

Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.

Yeah, but this guy's attacking it because he thinks that reading Harry Potter will summon demons or some shit, which I think most of us can agree isn't likely.

[Neko-koku]

Isn't it full of "NO PAGANISM?" I'm familiar with both testaments.

You could interpret it that way, I suppose. I don't. It's semantics, perhaps. We digress from the discussion of the misguided fellow in Tennessee, though.

Sure.

That TN fellow is basically behaving like normal devoted Abrahamic folks. It is nothing unusual if we understand extreme Abrahamic hostility to other religions that most secular and polytheistic people don't get.

[Australian rePublic]

Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.

Yeah, but this guy's attacking it because he thinks that reading Harry Potter will summon demons or some shit, which I think most of us can agree isn't likely.

And my argument is that this is the first I've heard of such non-sense about a book that's marketed as fiction from an educated post-enlightment Catholic. If the book was not intended as fiction, it would be a completely different argument

[Neko-koku]

Whether it contains real spells is irrelevant to whether a consistent Abrahamic believer can accept it if we apply the principles of Abrahamic religions on polytheism.

Yeah, but this guy's attacking it because he thinks that reading Harry Potter will summon demons or some shit, which I think most of us can agree isn't likely.

Right. But try to talk to fundamentalists such as African Pentacostals about that. They DO believe that HP is a Satanic book and will actually summon demons.

[Australian rePublic]

You could interpret it that way, I suppose. I don't. It's semantics, perhaps. We digress from the discussion of the misguided fellow in Tennessee, though.

Sure.

That TN fellow is basically behaving like normal devoted Abrahamic folks. It is nothing unusual if we understand extreme Abrahamic hostility to other religions that most secular and polytheistic people don't get.

I think you've misinterpreted. I'm not saying that we promote paganism. I'm saying that No educated post-enlightment Cstholic believes that a book intended to be fiction can be used to summon demans. Had the book been intended for actually summoning demons, it'd be a different story

[Australian rePublic]

Yeah, but this guy's attacking it because he thinks that reading Harry Potter will summon demons or some shit, which I think most of us can agree isn't likely.

Right. But try to talk to fundamentalists such as African Pentacostals about that. They DO believe that HP is a Satanic book and will actually summon demons.

We're not talking about African Pentacostals, we're talking about Catholics. Did you read a word I said?

[Neko-koku]

You may ignore what pretty much 40-60% of Tanakh is but it is there. Tanakh is mostly about "NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM! NO PAGANISM!" That's something Christianity agrees with Judaism at even though Judaism considers Christianity itself to be idolatry (they call it avodah zarah). Not all Christian churches emphasize that but many do.

Harry Potter does not promote paganism.

The author's intention doesn't matter. Saudis used to ban HP too for exactly the same reason.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4510202/s ... cinema/amp

[Neko-koku]

Right. But try to talk to fundamentalists such as African Pentacostals about that. They DO believe that HP is a Satanic book and will actually summon demons.

We're not talking about African Pentacostals, we're talking about Catholics. Did you read a word I said?

I'm not familiar enough with Catholics to know whether there are certain subgroups with comparable beliefs. I guess there are.

[Saxipta]

Yeah, but this guy's attacking it because he thinks that reading Harry Potter will summon demons or some shit, which I think most of us can agree isn't likely.

Right. But try to talk to fundamentalists such as African Pentacostals about that. They DO believe that HP is a Satanic book and will actually summon demons.

Yes, but they're wrong.

[Australian rePublic]

We're not talking about African Pentacostals, we're talking about Catholics. Did you read a word I said?

I'm not familiar enough with Catholics to know whether there are certain subgroups with comparable beliefs. I guess there are.

Well if you're not familiar with Catholics, then stop comparing them to friken' Pentacostals considering that you don't know what you're talking about

[Neko-koku]

Right. But try to talk to fundamentalists such as African Pentacostals about that. They DO believe that HP is a Satanic book and will actually summon demons.

Yes, but they're wrong.

Of course.

However since everything is downstream from religion and lack thereof it is almost impossible to convince them otherwise.

[Neko-koku]

I'm not familiar enough with Catholics to know whether there are certain subgroups with comparable beliefs. I guess there are.

Well if you're not familiar with Catholics, then stop comparing them to friken' Pentacostals considering that you don't know what you're talking about

I bet we can find similar beliefs from some sects of Southern Baptists too. So it isn't unreasonable to believe that the same belief is likely present in at least some Catholics.

[Australian rePublic]

Well if you're not familiar with Catholics, then stop comparing them to friken' Pentacostals considering that you don't know what you're talking about

I bet we can find similar beliefs from some sects of Southern Baptists too. So it isn't unreasonable to believe that the same belief is likely present in at least some Catholics.

Pnce again Southern baptists=/=African Pentacostals. At this point, you're probably cherry picking denominations and claiming ignorance

[Black Moon Magisterium]

Someone who has interacted with stuff can do so in a fictional setting, but I’m not sure if you could do it reading aloud Harry Potter. I don’t recall Harry Potter even having much in the way of spirits, and I’m not sure the simple Latin two-word phrases will pass as spells. But I’m not an expert on the latter.

[Neko-koku]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious ... ter_series

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My moderate Catholic parents used to make me hide my Harry Potter books when my Pentecostal grandma came over because they didn't want a whole religious argument. What's funny is my mom is always going on about how Catholics are so reasonable (especially in comparison with wacky Pentecostals and Baptists) but she lives in a bubble of her own diocese and doesn't realize that there are batshit fundamentalist Catholics all over the place. When I had to do confirmation (against my will) as a teenager, I was sent to a weekend retreat and I got acquainted with Catholic fundamentalists and found out just how extreme they can be.

[Australian rePublic]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_the_Harry_Potter_series

Did you actually read the article? It specifically says that Catholics who oppose Harry Potter do so because it promotes magic, not because it contains magic. There's a massive difference between the two

[Little Tin Hat]

Ah! Reminds me of the good ol' days when thee could just stick another witch on the fire if it were getting chilly.

[Aeyariss]

Teachers union President @@RANDOMNAME@@ says, "Come on, the book is fantasy! And it's a damn good read. I'd like the government to issue a statement of support for our teachers and librarians, so kids can enjoy good books without interference from religious wackos, like Christians.

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[Pere Housh Alpha]

This is a sad day for Harry Potter fans which I am one of.

[Neko-koku]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_the_Harry_Potter_series

Did you actually read the article? It specifically says that Catholics who oppose Harry Potter do so because it promotes magic, not because it contains magic. There's a massive difference between the two

OK. I guess you are likely right.

The only people who actually tend to believe in this kind of stuff are Sub-Saharan Africans. Latin America and South Korea for example don't look full of that.