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Postby Black Moon Magisterium » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:19 am

Thepeopl wrote:
Black Moon Magisterium wrote:-snip-I’m not sure the simple Latin two-word phrases will pass as spells. But I’m not an expert on the latter.

How can this be?
You are a Magisterium!

Spells just don’t interest me, I got into magic for spiritual reasons.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:21 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:Why are these people even alive?


They aren't stupid nor do they believe Harry Potter books can summon evil spirits. As usual, it's about money and power. Any form of media that antagonizes christianity must be eliminated. Same goes for media that depict women as equal to men. The church can't burn books en masse or imprison people theses days, but they can scare oblivious parents into taking away "problematic" media from their children.

The church is afraid of the newer generations because they are less loyal and won't contribute the same amount of money older generations did. They are also afraid of losing their power over people, especially women.

But this isn't the Church as a whole, it's an individual priest. This type of corruption only works when there are lots of people involved, rather than isolated individuals
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Postby Thepeopl » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:24 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:J.K. Rowling is behind this!

This is great publicity, and will boost her sales numbers.

Methinks the catholic church will receive a nice donation from her.

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As stated, pastor is probably going to be retired, or used as proof the evil spirits have possessed him due to reading past his bedtime.

Several Christian Fringe groups do believe the bible and take it literally. So no surprise that they read other books the same way. It has been written, so it must be true.

Catholicism specifically forbids a literal interpretation of the Genesis


Wow! Hard core. To call Catholicism a fringe group.

The pastor did not take the spells as "real" in the sense there would actually do what was described, he merely stated, reading these spells would invite demons/ evil spirits into the reader's life.

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Postby Black Moon Magisterium » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:26 am

Thepeopl wrote:The pastor did not take the spells as "real" in the sense there would actually do what was described, he merely stated, reading these spells would invite demons/ evil spirits into the reader's life.

They seem to think that about everything though.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:26 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:Catholicism specifically forbids a literal interpretation of the Genesis


Wow! Hard core. To call Catholicism a fringe group.

The pastor did not take the spells as "real" in the sense there would actually do what was described, he merely stated, reading these spells would invite demons/ evil spirits into the reader's life.

This thread is specifically about Catholicism. I didn't call Catholicism a fringe group, you did
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Postby Black Moon Magisterium » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:30 am

The Pope is an asshole anyway, calling trans people the bane of the world, the actions of a high school principle don’t change much to me.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:35 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
They aren't stupid nor do they believe Harry Potter books can summon evil spirits. As usual, it's about money and power. Any form of media that antagonizes christianity must be eliminated. Same goes for media that depict women as equal to men. The church can't burn books en masse or imprison people theses days, but they can scare oblivious parents into taking away "problematic" media from their children.

The church is afraid of the newer generations because they are less loyal and won't contribute the same amount of money older generations did. They are also afraid of losing their power over people, especially women.


Well, maybe it is time that they lost their institutional power and their beliefs had no basis in law and government.


This is never going to happen naturally or by governments alone. Pretty much every major branch of christianity has insane amounts of financial assets and money and they have adapted in our world extremely well. They aren't as weak as they may appear.

Australian rePublic wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
They aren't stupid nor do they believe Harry Potter books can summon evil spirits. As usual, it's about money and power. Any form of media that antagonizes christianity must be eliminated. Same goes for media that depict women as equal to men. The church can't burn books en masse or imprison people theses days, but they can scare oblivious parents into taking away "problematic" media from their children.

The church is afraid of the newer generations because they are less loyal and won't contribute the same amount of money older generations did. They are also afraid of losing their power over people, especially women.

But this isn't the Church as a whole, it's an individual priest. This type of corruption only works when there are lots of people involved, rather than isolated individuals


Correct, but HP books in particular have been attacked many times before for similar reasons. Also a priest is still a representative of the catholic church. He knows that the only spell HP books can cast is "Scepticismus", which is a powerful money-depriving hex.

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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:35 am

Black Moon Magisterium wrote:The Pope is an asshole anyway, calling trans people the name of the world, the actions of a high school principle don’t change much to me.


Hey, at the very least he's actually trying to normalise it and not to appear as a bigot...
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Postby Black Moon Magisterium » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:38 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:Hey, at the very least he's actually trying to normalise it and not to appear as a bigot...

I don’t seem to remember that.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:39 am

Australian rePublic wrote:But this isn't the Church as a whole, it's an individual priest. This type of corruption only works when there are lots of people involved, rather than isolated individuals


Correct, but HP books in particular have been attacked many times before for similar reasons. Also a priest is still a representative of the catholic church. He knows that the only spell HP books can cast is "Scepticismus", which is a powerful money-depriving hex.

Have similar things happened in the Catholic church specifically? If not, then your point counts for nothing
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Postby Thepeopl » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:39 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:
Wow! Hard core. To call Catholicism a fringe group.

The pastor did not take the spells as "real" in the sense there would actually do what was described, he merely stated, reading these spells would invite demons/ evil spirits into the reader's life.

This thread is specifically about Catholicism. I didn't call Catholicism a fringe group, you did

Sorry, I see how you could read my post that way. But it wasn't what I meant.
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Those I do consider fringe groups.
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Postby Herador » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:40 am

I once got into a play wizard fight around the time the second book came out. I sent out a spell and the stick I was using caught my friend in the face and he had to get stitches, so with that in mind I have to say the good Reverend is right. Y'all wanna come round my place for the book burning, or should we just do it in the Barnes & Noble parking lot?
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:50 am

There are apparently a ton of US Millennials out there that never read Harry Potter even when it was big. Mainly they had religious families or upbringings.

Even if the series doesn't have real spells or occult stuff, we can't forget that the author is one of those crazy Feminist Liberals. So on that basis alone, the text of the fiction will have toxic or corrupting influences, if you're inclined to be Conservative or more traditional.
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Postby Herador » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:51 am

Saiwania wrote:There are apparently a ton of US Millennials out there that never read Harry Potter even when it was big. Mainly they had religious families or upbringings.

Even if the series doesn't have real spells or ocult stuff, we can't forget that the author is one of those crazy Feminist Liberals. So on that basis alone, the text of the fiction will have toxic or corrupting influences, if you're inclined to be Conservative or more traditional.

God forbid people start trying to free House Elves in real life.
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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:52 am

The book isn't even about feminism and woke tm, and even though JK Rowling has those views, I can't really see anything in the books nor in interviews at the time to suggest this.

Though she is sympathetic to TERFs which makes her a scumbag, on top of a mediocre writer.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:56 am

What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp wrote:Though she is sympathetic to TERFs which makes her a scumbag, on top of a mediocre writer. *shots fired*


What I can respect is that she hustled her way to permanent riches.
Asides from the book sales, it was primarily the Warner Brothers movie deals that paid her the $1 billion if I'm not mistaken.
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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:58 am

She worked her way to the top, and she hasn't forgotten it, but still whoever her agent or publicist is should probably check her tweets before she sends them.
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Postby Herador » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:00 am

What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp wrote:She worked her way to the top, and she hasn't forgotten it, but still whoever her agent or publicist is should probably check her tweets before she sends them.

The worst thing we can accuse the woman of is not understanding the Death Of The Author and thinking her opinions on the setting still matter.
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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:01 am

Herador wrote:
What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp wrote:She worked her way to the top, and she hasn't forgotten it, but still whoever her agent or publicist is should probably check her tweets before she sends them.

The worst thing we can accuse the woman of is not understanding the Death Of The Author and thinking her opinions on the setting still matter.


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JK Rowling: I am Harry Potter, and I am gay
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Postby Duhon » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:27 am

Saiwania wrote:There are apparently a ton of US Millennials out there that never read Harry Potter even when it was big. Mainly they had religious families or upbringings.

Even if the series doesn't have real spells or occult stuff, we can't forget that the author is one of those crazy Feminist Liberals. So on that basis alone, the text of the fiction will have toxic or corrupting influences, if you're inclined to be Conservative or more traditional.


what made you up?

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Postby The Snazzylands » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:57 pm

Saiwania wrote:There are apparently a ton of US Millennials out there that never read Harry Potter even when it was big. Mainly they had religious families or upbringings.

Even if the series doesn't have real spells or occult stuff, we can't forget that the author is one of those crazy Feminist Liberals. So on that basis alone, the text of the fiction will have toxic or corrupting influences, if you're inclined to be Conservative or more traditional.

I didn't read the Harry Potter books growing up, but only because I didn't really like them. My parents were the ones who bought me the first few books.
And do you have specific examples of toxic feminist influences in Harry Potter? From the movies and what I've heard about the book from friends, I don't get overtly feminist vibes besides from the "woman character is the smart one" trope, but I wouldn't say that's particularly radical or a corrupting influence.

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Postby Page » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:08 pm

Saiwania wrote:Even if the series doesn't have real spells or occult stuff, we can't forget that the author is one of those crazy Feminist Liberals. So on that basis alone, the text of the fiction will have toxic or corrupting influences, if you're inclined to be Conservative or more traditional.


JK Rowling's "feminism" is of the TERF variety, so the left is disgusted with her too. Look, we agree on something!
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