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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:21 pm

Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:24 pm

Zanarkenis wrote:Image Just to remind the dead nutbag of how much of a dumbass he was. Happy birthday, you dumba$$ sh#tbrained m@therf$cker.

Brilliant, :lol2:

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:27 pm

greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.

Hell even the Nuremberg Tribunal seemed to understand they weren't supposed to be applying "justice" hence why they refused to judge the Waffen-SS apart from the SS and thus said if you had SS in your organizations name you are now war criminals who gives a fuck if you were drafted? Deal with it.
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Postby Cybach » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:34 pm

greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.


I was not so much speaking about the nationality of the judges, moreso:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trial#Criticism

I mean you know you have a problem when the leading judge sends a letter to the President expressing his discomfort as a lawyer about the whole situation.

Or when the Soviet prosecution willingly with the knowledge of the Soviet judge tried to introduce false/forged documentation as evidence, the US refused to declare a mistrial or even censure the Soviets. Choosing instead to gloss it over and ignore that it ever happened. Or how the prosecution refused to share vital documents with the defense. The list goes on and on and is way too long to list here. Simply read the above link. My point is that no one can claim that Nuremberg was Justice with a straight face. It was perhaps revenge or you can even give it a fancy label like moral reckoning, but to call it justice is pretty much taking a shit on most of what the field of Law considers sanctimonious and holy.

Stalin had it right. Should have just shot them. Then they wouldn't have an embarrassing legacy like Nuremberg, which will continue being the butt of jokes for lawyers until kingdom come.

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Postby Pivovarsky » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:36 pm

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Postby Gibet » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:37 pm

Happy birthday to the Fuerher!! :)

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Postby Blob-land » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:38 pm

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Couldn't resist....


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Postby Cybach » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:39 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.

Hell even the Nuremberg Tribunal seemed to understand they weren't supposed to be applying "justice" hence why they refused to judge the Waffen-SS apart from the SS and thus said if you had SS in your organizations name you are now war criminals who gives a fuck if you were drafted? Deal with it.


It was a controversial decision. Patton got into a long shouting fight with Eisenhower over it. Much of the US military high command was also disgusted that the Waffen SS was declared criminal (for many in the allied officer corps the declaring of a whole military wing as criminal struck a bit close to home. I mean what is to stop politicians from deciding tomorrow that every Navy Seal is member of a "criminal organization?, etc.."). Note the "Waffen SS," most considered the criminalization of the political wing the "contemporary SS" to be legitimate.

However it seems to be more a technicality then an absolute truth though. Most historians, soldiers of the time and ww2 enthusiasts consider the criminal status of the Waffen SS to be a bit dubious. Hell, even Presidents such as Reagan laid down wreaths of flowers on graves containing Waffen SS soldiers.
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Postby Hornopolis » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:40 pm

Communist Phanafia wrote:Its the Birthday of Adolf Hitler today, and I have celebrated by burning a nazi flag in my back yard! Since I obviously don't own one, I made one just so I could burn it! What do you peoples have in mind for celebration?

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:41 pm

Cybach wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.

Hell even the Nuremberg Tribunal seemed to understand they weren't supposed to be applying "justice" hence why they refused to judge the Waffen-SS apart from the SS and thus said if you had SS in your organizations name you are now war criminals who gives a fuck if you were drafted? Deal with it.


It was a controversial decision. Patton got into a long shouting fight with Eisenhower over it. Much of the US military high command was also disgusted that the Waffen SS was declared criminal (for many in the allied officer corps the declaring of a whole military wing as criminal struck a bit close to home. I mean what is to stop politicians from deciding tomorrow that every Navy Seal is member of a "criminal organization?, etc.."). Note the "Waffen SS," most considered the criminalization of the political wing the "contemporary SS" to be legitimate.

However it seems to be more a technicality then an absolute truth though. Most historians, soldiers of the time and ww2 enthusiasts consider the criminal status of the Waffen SS to be a bit dubious. Hell, even Presidents such as Reagan laid down wreaths of flowers on graves containing Waffen SS soldiers.

I heard Ike had to talk Patton out of declaring war on the US over it, something about honor of soldiers.
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Postby Wadomia » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:42 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:I am writing a story about Hitler. It goes a bit like;

Once upon a time, there was a genocidal dictator named Adolf. Every one hated him and he shot himself, because he lost the war he started and his plan to kill millions was never completed. No one missed him (except for a few crackpots). The End.


I like it. I'm gonna request this for the next winner for a short story award :)

Happy Birthday Shitler, hope you are having a horrible time in hell
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Postby Pivovarsky » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:52 pm

Hornopolis wrote:
Communist Phanafia wrote:Its the Birthday of Adolf Hitler today, and I have celebrated by burning a nazi flag in my back yard! Since I obviously don't own one, I made one just so I could burn it! What do you peoples have in mind for celebration?

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Postby Rohov » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:56 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Zanarkenis wrote:Image Just to remind the dead nutbag of how much of a dumbass he was. Happy birthday, you dumba$$ sh#tbrained m@therf$cker.

Brilliant, :lol2:

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:58 pm

Um...What? :blink: :blush:

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I think Zanarkenis has potential, he is indeed one of the most gifted noobs i have seen in a long time..
As for you I am not so certain.
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Postby Rohov » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:42 pm

greed and death wrote:
Rohov wrote:snip

I think Zanarkenis has potential, he is indeed one of the most gifted noobs i have seen in a long time..
As for you I am not so certain.

Actually, Zanarkenis is a puppet of an older nation. Same for me, I apologize, I was just so excited!
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:45 pm

Rohov wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Rohov wrote:snip

I think Zanarkenis has potential, he is indeed one of the most gifted noobs i have seen in a long time..
As for you I am not so certain.

Snip

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Postby Rohov » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:46 pm

greed and death wrote:
Rohov wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Rohov wrote:snip

I think Zanarkenis has potential, he is indeed one of the most gifted noobs i have seen in a long time..
As for you I am not so certain.

Snip

puppet or not your only hope of passing NSG is to buy and read my study guides.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:47 pm

Communist Phanafia wrote:Its the Birthday of Adolf Hitler today, and I have celebrated by burning a nazi flag in my back yard! Since I obviously don't own one, I made one just so I could burn it! What do you peoples have in mind for celebration?


Why would you celebrate it?
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Postby Pythria » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:49 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:I am writing a story about Hitler. It goes a bit like;

Once upon a time, there was a genocidal dictator named Adolf. Every one hated him and he shot himself, because he lost the war he started and his plan to kill millions was never completed. No one missed him (except for a few crackpots). The End.

Great story, but his plan unfortunately was completed.
On a related note, I celebrated Hitler's birthday today! Wait, no I didn't, I don't keep of track of things like that and spend my time thinking about Hitler.
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Postby Coccygia » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:50 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Vetalia wrote:In the year of our Fuhrer, 121.

Excellent. I should begin using that for paperwork I fill out. :rofl:


Interestingly, in Latin that would be Anno Ducis...A.D. :shock:

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Postby Monocrat » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:50 pm

I dedicated a bowel movement to him. I figure it's what he deserves.

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Postby Aryan Republics of Ame » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:29 pm

greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Cybach wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Cybach wrote:You misinterpret the action. By committing ritual suicide he is admitting responsibility for failure, it's consequences and living up to his actions. He forfeits his own life as repentance to his men. This is the reason why so many Japanese and German officers committed suicide in the waning days of the war. Most felt honor bound.


He also killed himself to avoid being a propaganda piece to the Russians, especially after he saw how they used Mussolini.


Or are you claiming he would have gotten a fair trial? The Nuremberg Trials for all intents and purposes were a legal farce and a joke that put a black mark on the judicial branch. Maybe a moral victory, but certainly not justice in any true sense of the word.

that is a true, a trial where both the judges and the defense lawyers come from the conquering country is far from fair.
Stalin I believe said something along the lines of just shooting them would be equally as fair and far more efficient.
Judges should have came form countries not apart of the confrontation.

Hell even the Nuremberg Tribunal seemed to understand they weren't supposed to be applying "justice" hence why they refused to judge the Waffen-SS apart from the SS and thus said if you had SS in your organizations name you are now war criminals who gives a fuck if you were drafted? Deal with it.


It was a controversial decision. Patton got into a long shouting fight with Eisenhower over it. Much of the US military high command was also disgusted that the Waffen SS was declared criminal (for many in the allied officer corps the declaring of a whole military wing as criminal struck a bit close to home. I mean what is to stop politicians from deciding tomorrow that every Navy Seal is member of a "criminal organization?, etc.."). Note the "Waffen SS," most considered the criminalization of the political wing the "contemporary SS" to be legitimate.

However it seems to be more a technicality then an absolute truth though. Most historians, soldiers of the time and ww2 enthusiasts consider the criminal status of the Waffen SS to be a bit dubious. Hell, even Presidents such as Reagan laid down wreaths of flowers on graves containing Waffen SS soldiers.

I heard Ike had to talk Patton out of declaring war on the US over it, something about honor of soldiers.

You should read the Patton Papers. Patton ended up being a good man in the end, and then he had an "accident" soon after he took the postions he did.
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:34 pm

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