The Thread Formerly Known As Communism Will Save The World

[Cappuccina]

History has already proven communism is unviable as an ideology.

Nothing is proven in economics or even science, you cant prove anything... We can experiment and draw conclusions but honestly Communism is going through the same initial growing pains of Capitalism at the end of Feudalism... The ideology is being experimented with and changed to become stronger with each iteration... Sorry but economics is not a constant

Communism already failed, what are you even talking about?

Alright, then. What’s your version of Sharia?

I mean, its either the one where gays are thrown off roofs or the one where gays get thrown off roofs

No, there's nothing telling us to kill or otherwise do anything to gays. The throwing people off buildings or "from a high place" are based on BS hadith with no basis in Scripture.

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

Alright, then. What’s your version of Sharia?

We'd have to bring that Convo to the IDT, it'd derail this.

[Kowani]

Alright, then. What’s your version of Sharia?

We'd have to bring that Convo to the IDT, it'd derail this.

To the IDT it is!

[Antef]

Here is a bit of real history for you lot think that capitalism is the best option.

Brazil is world's top producer of coffee alright? back in 1930's Brazil had a exceptionally good harvest of coffee beans, at least 80% more goods than the anticipated, you'd think this is fine, more stuff to sell right? but no, in the eye of capitalism, having high quantities of a goods would drop its price, combined with post great depression, Coffee prices dropped so low that they weren't going to make a profit out of it.

So to combat this, they decided burn the coffee to raise the prices up, using it to fuel the locomotives (this continued on until 1960's) dump it into the ocean, that year, Brazil had got rid of 78 million bags of stockpiled coffee.

And, the prices did go up, the coffee got rarer, rare goods are pricier right? makes sense right? they didn't make the profit they would've liked, but at the very least they made the money they had predicted before the exceptional harvest of that year, but alas, millions of worth of coffee beans are just plain gone, wasted, why? because capitalism said so.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

What gets me and most Cuban Americans is the international support for the Cuban communist regime of Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel by the western style multi political democratic capitalist nations of Europe, the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the Hispanic nations, Brazilians despite Jair Bolsonaro and Hungary under right wing Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán, against the Cuban American community, the same goes for most of my fellow nations.

The eternal revolutionary undemocratic Cuban regime trades and receives international tourists with almost all nations of the world.

1) They do not support it, they merely acknowledge it as the government of Cuba and aren't bitching about it like the US.
2) Like it or not, but communist Cuba was/is a big improvement over Batista's Cuba.

This is not a tread Jack, this thread is about communism making the world better or not, and comparing communist nations to non communist nations, and I am responding to the poster claiming Cuba under the Castro's and Diaz-Canel is a big improvement over Batista's Cuba, just saying just in case, I am that paranoid on NS for obvious reasons.

Trade, Tourists, economic, political and cultural diplomatic relations with the hardline intransigent eternal undemocratic revolutionary military mafia regime of Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel, is supporting them, we Cuban Americans can expect that from the leftists, but not from the right and center as many do, and then you all wonder why those crazy Cuban Americans like myself say, do and feel the way we do.

Yes Batista ruled as President and a dictator, their were prisoners and ex political prisoners, and political parties, Batista was more interested in personal power and wealth than control, Fidel and Raúl were interested in power, wealth and control, Batista's biggest mistake was releasing and pardoning Fidel from prison, I bet Fidel would not have done that for Batista if the situation had been in reverse.

I once met a Cuban lady in Miami of the former upper class of Cuba in line at a movie theatre of a pro Castro movie, she probably knew Voltaire the rich upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, I forgot to ask her, she was at the country club the night Batista the so called dictator tried to enter the country club, she admitted they discriminated against Batista because he is a mulato, they turned the lights off and did not allow Batista to enter the country club, would Fidel have allowed the Club to deny him entry for political reasons? lol hell no, some dictator Batista, lol.

Cuba had a middle class, a working class, a poor class and an upper class, we were middle class and upper class, Voltaire the rich upper class Padrino of our family in Cuba, once told me, we were ready, willing and able to help Fidel, but he turned on us and nationalized all our businesses.

Nations with a free market economy can transition to a multi political party democracy a lot easier and faster than communist dictatorship nations as it has been practiced all over the world, and so would have Cuba.

At least under Batista their were not over 3 million Cuban exiles all over the world, no Cuban Balsero Rafters on anything that floats, boats, rafts, inner tubes, car, trucks and taxi cabs, across 90 miles of shark infested waters.

No Cubans hiding on airplanes luggage compartments and asking for political asylum in the USA and other nations.

No Cubans crossing and dying in the forest of Darién, currently crossing Mexico and Central America, no overseas family remittances and care packages including school uniforms, cell phones, medicines and toilet paper, no food and goods rationings, because they were not needed.

Who do you all think buy, pay and re charge the cell phones Cubans are now allow to own? the Cuban American Mafia of Miami like myself included.

No Committee's for the Defense of the Revolution CDRs who spy on you and report you, who keep a record of who you are, where you work, who you see, who see's you, your voluntary work record for the Revolution or not, your loyalty to the Revolution or not.

NO CDRs repudiation brigades throwing eggs at Cubans for disagreeing with the government and wanting to emigrate legally the right way, and calling them gusano worms, escoria scums, la Gusanera, while the police stand by and look the other way.

No so called volunteer labor brigades on Cuban government farms for Cubans wanting to emigrate legally until their immigration visas were approved by the USA and other nations, until a few years ago under Fidel and Raúl the CDRs sealed off the rooms and homes of Cubans who received their immigration visas and confiscated all personal properties for the Revolution, and family members in the house or outside of the house could not have access to any of it.

No Cuban re education camps for political prisoners, catholic priests, protestant pastors and LGBT persons.

Batista was a baby compared to Fidel.

The Castro family and Diaz-Canel demand communist socialist sacrifices from the Cuban people for the Revolution, including from my family still in Cuba, and live like rich capitalist, communist socialists, as these Pics prove.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1134785

[Des-Bal]

Sure next time it won't be a bunch of dead people and an iron fisted dictatorship. Next time for sure.

[Grand Proudhonia]

Heres a great idea... Batista and Fidel should have both been shot and buried in shallow graves along with their allies... The two brought nothing but a century of despair to The Cuban people... I still dream for the day that the Cubans will rise against the statists that control their nation and form a society based truly on political anarchism... The island presents a unique location for a grand experiment in the philosophy founded by Proudhon and put into practice by Makhno

[Nakena]

Islam and Communism would be dandy if

1: Commies dropped their irreligious tenets &

2: Emirs and Sheiks weren't such selfish, sanginary scumbags (See: Prince MbS)

@1979 Iranian Revolution

Leftists got neutralized and banned by the khomeinist with the remainder being mass-executed in 1988. Something many left-wing groups in Europe seem to forget as they pander towards islamism. (which is one of the major reasons of my dislike for them)

[Grand Proudhonia]

@1979 Iranian Revolution

Leftists got neutralized and banned by the khomeinist with the remainder being mass-executed in 1988. Something many left-wing groups in Europe seem to forget as they pander towards islamism. (which is one of the major reasons of my dislike for them)

Yeah, I really dont understand why leftists tend to pander to Islam so much... or maybe its just the really vocal progressive crowd

[LiberNovusAmericae]

@1979 Iranian Revolution

Leftists got neutralized and banned by the khomeinist with the remainder being mass-executed in 1988. Something many left-wing groups in Europe seem to forget as they pander towards islamism. (which is one of the major reasons of my dislike for them)

The left's obsession with building alliances with people just because they are a minority is a very large error in judgement.

[Aureumterra]

Leftists got neutralized and banned by the khomeinist with the remainder being mass-executed in 1988. Something many left-wing groups in Europe seem to forget as they pander towards islamism. (which is one of the major reasons of my dislike for them)

The left's obsession with building alliances with people just because they are a minority is a very large error in judgement.

*Minority in the West

Leftists act as if they’re a minority everywhere, so the end up siding with Palestine, Pakistan, Free Syrian Army, etc.

[Stylan]

Correct.

[Stylan]

Don’t you support Sharia?

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

And there aren't different types of Communism?

[Kubra]

Leftists got neutralized and banned by the khomeinist with the remainder being mass-executed in 1988. Something many left-wing groups in Europe seem to forget as they pander towards islamism. (which is one of the major reasons of my dislike for them)

Yeah, I really dont understand why leftists tend to pander to Islam so much... or maybe its just the really vocal progressive crowd

Because the critique of islam tends to fall more on its laity than it does the priesthood. Ain't nobody god any love for this or that mullah, but fucking with common folk well it's only natural we might have a few objections.

[Kowani]

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

And their aren't different types of Communism?

Yep.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

And their aren't different types of Communism?

Yep.

Yeah but all the one's practiced are eternal communist socialist dictatorship revolutions, with a privileged rich capitalist style governing class, lol.

[Stylan]

Yep.

Yeah but all the one's practiced are eternal communist socialist dictatorship revolutions, with a privileged rich capitalist style governing class, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Pe ... _Manchuria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista ... Liberation

Also there is literally nothing wrong with a communist "dictatorship."

[Kowani]

Yep.

Yeah but all the one's practiced are eternal communist socialist dictatorship revolutions, with a privileged rich capitalist style governing class, lol.

No. All the ones you’ve heard of are. Which is quite different.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Yeah but all the one's practiced are eternal communist socialist dictatorship revolutions, with a privileged rich capitalist style governing class, lol.

No. All the ones you’ve heard of are. Which is quite different.

The Free Ukrainian territory that lasted 5 years, the free Soviets and Libertarian communes under Russian Soviet influence and Revolutionary army, Korean Peoples Association and the Zapatista Liberation Army, lol, I am having a lol attack, not at you at your post

The Russian Soviet Union and its former Eastern European Empire of nations, China, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, North Korea and Cuba, all the same eternal one political party state undemocratic revolutions, lol.

[Stylan]

No. All the ones you’ve heard of are. Which is quite different.

The Free Ukrainian territory that lasted 5 years, the free Soviets and Libertarian communes under Russian Soviet influence and Revolutionary army, Korean Peoples Association and the Zapatista Liberation Army, lol, I am having a lol attack, not at you at your post

The Russian Soviet Union and its former Eastern European Empire of nations, China, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, North Korea and Cuba, all the same eternal one political party state undemocratic revolutions, lol.

Yeah the Ukrainian Territory lasted 5 years, it's almost like there needs to be a strong army and leader in order for a communist nation to last.

Also North Korea isn't a dictatorship, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Nort ... y_election

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Yeah but all the one's practiced are eternal communist socialist dictatorship revolutions, with a privileged rich capitalist style governing class, lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Pe ... _Manchuria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista ... Liberation

Also there is literally nothing wrong with a communist "dictatorship."

lol, in Cuba and all those nations I posted about, you cant disagree with the government and the eternal Revolution on any issues, it is not allowed. But I like I always say that is your democratic right to think so and your right to post it, from the nation you are posting from, lol.

[Stylan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Pe ... _Manchuria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista ... Liberation

Also there is literally nothing wrong with a communist "dictatorship."

lol, in Cuba and all those nations I posted about, you cant disagree with the government and the eternal Revolution on any issues, it is not allowed. But I like I always say that is your democratic right to think so and your right to post it, from the nation you are posting from.

Source.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

lol, in Cuba and all those nations I posted about, you cant disagree with the government and the eternal Revolution on any issues, it is not allowed. But I like I always say that is your democratic right to think so and your right to post it, from the nation you are posting from.

Source.

I think most of us can agree on my point on all those nations, I have the perfect source on Cuba because I am a native Cuban and American citizen, give me a while to find the link.

[Stylan]

Source.

I think most of us can agree on my point on all those nations, I have the perfect source on Cuba because I am a native Cuban and American citizen, give me a while to find the link.

No problem.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

Also there is literally nothing wrong with a communist "dictatorship."

Human rights abuses? Famines? Sociopaths in power?

Nope, nothing wrong here.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

I think most of us can agree on my point on all those nations, I have the perfect source on Cuba because I am a native Cuban and American citizen, give me a while to find the link.

No problem.

ok but I found it since you asked.
At the OAS Summit of the America's Cubans from the Committee's for the Defense of the Revolution CDRs interrupted the meeting shouting, a Cuba se respeta, a Cuba se respeta, abajo la Gusanera, Cuba must be respected, Cuba must be respected, down with the Gusano Worms, La Gusanera, that includes me and my family still in Cuba.

Afuera, Afuera La Gusanera, Afuera, Afuera La Gusanera, out with the Gusanera, out with the Gusanera, Cuba and Venezuela one Flag, Cuba and Venezuela one Flag,

A great video to see, while the Link says Breibart the video speaks for itself,
https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu ... mit-event/

They were welcomed back to Cuba by Raúl Castro for a good job done, I have the pics to post but the video speaks for itself.

Recently a Lady Cuban government Minister of Education and Diaz-Canel have stated on twitter, that Cubans who don't live in Cuba don't have a right to criticize the government, ok fair enough, but the problem is Cuban citizens like my family still in Cuba are not allowed to criticize or disagree with the government on any issues, in a one political party state eternal revolution, they are continuity as Diaz-Canel and the government ministers now say on twitter.

But nothing I say or link to will probably change your mind, it is called human nature, myself included, I have come to the conclusion that we are not here on NS to argue, debate or discuss any issues and change each other's mind on any issues, we are here to share our different economic, political and social views on all issues, not to change each other's mind.