The Thread Formerly Known As Communism Will Save The World

[Aureumterra]

The congos are really an odd bunch. You have a former communist country and a former fascist country bordering each other, both have ended up shitty. This, if anything confirms a moderate or third positions worldview

Oh I just didn't think they were talking about the Republic of the Congo

And no it doesn't.

I was talking specifically within the context of the two countries, not as a general term

Oh I just didn't think they were talking about the Republic of the Congo

And no it doesn't.

also you still haven't provided a source for your Laos famine claim

Laos’ farming output has been heavily affected by the delayed monsoon this year
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Drought- ... 47700.html

[Kowani]

Not just the USSR, every attempt at communism has spectacularly failed and more often than not resulted in genocide

Every country that ever had a communist revolution ended up becoming a totalitarian nightmare. In the end, marx's idea of communism could only work in a voluntary society such as a small village. A nation state that was just taken over by revolutionaries will never be able to adopt that way of life and autocracy will end up being the solution to millions of people saying "I'm not sharing my money with you"

Ironically, the best command economies were in the Bronze Age. Not exactly communism, but something to think about.

[Aureumterra]

Every country that ever had a communist revolution ended up becoming a totalitarian nightmare. In the end, marx's idea of communism could only work in a voluntary society such as a small village. A nation state that was just taken over by revolutionaries will never be able to adopt that way of life and autocracy will end up being the solution to millions of people saying "I'm not sharing my money with you"

Ironically, the best command economies were in the Bronze Age. Not exactly communism, but something to think about.

It reinforces the claim that communism and common economies only succeed on a small scale, and not on the scale of a normal country. If Tuvalu or San Marino went communist, it wouldn’t be as bad as Russia or China. Ironically, the countries least compatible with communism are the ones who attempted it

[Nakena]

Every country that ever had a communist revolution ended up becoming a totalitarian nightmare. In the end, marx's idea of communism could only work in a voluntary society such as a small village. A nation state that was just taken over by revolutionaries will never be able to adopt that way of life and autocracy will end up being the solution to millions of people saying "I'm not sharing my money with you"

Ironically, the best command economies were in the Bronze Age. Not exactly communism, but something to think about.

Hydraulic despotism

[Kowani]

Ironically, the best command economies were in the Bronze Age. Not exactly communism, but something to think about.

It reinforces the claim that communism and common economies only succeed on a small scale, and not on the scale of a normal country. If Tuvalu or San Marino went communist, it wouldn’t be as bad as Russia or China. Ironically, the countries least compatible with communism are the ones who attempted it

Well, in terms of Scale…ancient Egypt was actually pretty big. And Bronze Age Mycenaea had the unique problem of being spread out over a couple hundred islands. Somewhat impressive. Of course, they didn’t really have the population of a modern country.

[Diarcesia]

Ironically, the best command economies were in the Bronze Age. Not exactly communism, but something to think about.

It reinforces the claim that communism and common economies only succeed on a small scale, and not on the scale of a normal country. If Tuvalu or San Marino went communist, it wouldn’t be as bad as Russia or China. Ironically, the countries least compatible with communism are the ones who attempted it

It'll succeed if and when everyone in the polity voluntarily subscribes to the system. The difficulty and complexity increases exponentially relative to the the population.

[Rojava Free State]

It reinforces the claim that communism and common economies only succeed on a small scale, and not on the scale of a normal country. If Tuvalu or San Marino went communist, it wouldn’t be as bad as Russia or China. Ironically, the countries least compatible with communism are the ones who attempted it

Well, in terms of Scale…ancient Egypt was actually pretty big. And Bronze Age Mycenaea had the unique problem of being spread out over a couple hundred islands. Somewhat impressive. Of course, they didn’t really have the population of a modern country.

Are you sure Egypt had a command economy? I can't believe free enterprise didn't exist then

[Kowani]

Well, in terms of Scale…ancient Egypt was actually pretty big. And Bronze Age Mycenaea had the unique problem of being spread out over a couple hundred islands. Somewhat impressive. Of course, they didn’t really have the population of a modern country.

Are you sure Egypt had a command economy? I can't believe free enterprise didn't exist then

Absolutely positive. I would recommend watching these for a simplistic overview.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

What gets me and most Cuban Americans is the international support for the Cuban communist regime of Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel by the western style multi political democratic capitalist nations of Europe, the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the Hispanic nations, Brazilians despite Jair Bolsonaro and Hungary under right wing Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán, against the Cuban American community, the same goes for most of my fellow nations.

The eternal revolutionary undemocratic Cuban regime trades and receives international tourists with almost all nations of the world.

[Turanist Hungary]

Communism as practiced and employed by the Soviet Union is not going to work and is corrupt/bad. But the idea of equality and equity is something I do support. Capitalism is the main cause of the troubles we face in present-day society. The drive for profit and greed brings out the worst in people and makes them resort to methods that further income inequality, poverty, war and conflict etc etc. If all businesses were brought under democratic state control, resources, jobs, money and so on could be distributed fairly and equally.

The thing is, when people think Communism they think Soviet Union. But that was a corrupt country and system of government that brought suffering and despair (as the son of parents who lived under a Communist regime, I know what I'm talking about). But the concept of Communism in theory is sound (minus the entire revolution, death to the elite, dictatorship government thing, that's just bad). A system of democratic socialism where the economy is brought under state control would solve so many problems capitalism is causing in modern day society. It would be a much fairer and just system anyway.

When people think Communism they don't think Soviet Union, they think PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, CUBA, NORTH KOREA, VIETNAM, VENEZUELA, GDR AND THE SOVIET UNION!

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Communism as practiced and employed by the Soviet Union is not going to work and is corrupt/bad. But the idea of equality and equity is something I do support. Capitalism is the main cause of the troubles we face in present-day society. The drive for profit and greed brings out the worst in people and makes them resort to methods that further income inequality, poverty, war and conflict etc etc. If all businesses were brought under democratic state control, resources, jobs, money and so on could be distributed fairly and equally.

The thing is, when people think Communism they think Soviet Union. But that was a corrupt country and system of government that brought suffering and despair (as the son of parents who lived under a Communist regime, I know what I'm talking about). But the concept of Communism in theory is sound (minus the entire revolution, death to the elite, dictatorship government thing, that's just bad). A system of democratic socialism where the economy is brought under state control would solve so many problems capitalism is causing in modern day society. It would be a much fairer and just system anyway.

When people think Communism they don't think Soviet Union, they think PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, CUBA, NORTH KOREA, VIETNAM, VENEZUELA, GDR AND THE SOVIET UNION!

Today of course, but the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.

[Ifreann]

When people think Communism they don't think Soviet Union, they think PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, CUBA, NORTH KOREA, VIETNAM, VENEZUELA, GDR AND THE SOVIET UNION!

Today of course, but the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.

Yes, that's what we wanted you to think.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Today of course, but the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.

Yes, that's what we wanted you to think.

lol, I know what you mean.

[Zhivotnoye]

What gets me and most Cuban Americans is the international support for the Cuban communist regime of Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel by the western style multi political democratic capitalist nations of Europe, the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the Hispanic nations, Brazilians despite Jair Bolsonaro and Hungary under right wing Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán, against the Cuban American community, the same goes for most of my fellow nations.

The eternal revolutionary undemocratic Cuban regime trades and receives international tourists with almost all nations of the world.

1) They do not support it, they merely acknowledge it as the government of Cuba and aren't bitching about it like the US.
2) Like it or not, but communist Cuba was/is a big improvement over Batista's Cuba.

[Cappuccina]

Imagine believing communism is actually a viable ideology.

[Grand Proudhonia]

Imagine believing communism is actually a viable ideology.

Imagine believing that this type of response is a legitimate argument

[Cappuccina]

Imagine believing communism is actually a viable ideology.

Imagine believing that this type of response is a legitimate argument

History has already proven communism is unviable as an ideology.

[Kowani]

Imagine believing that this type of response is a legitimate argument

History has already proven communism is unviable as an ideology.

Don’t you support Sharia?

[Cappuccina]

History has already proven communism is unviable as an ideology.

Don’t you support Sharia?

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

[Grand Proudhonia]

Imagine believing that this type of response is a legitimate argument

History has already proven communism is unviable as an ideology.

Nothing is proven in economics or even science, you cant prove anything... We can experiment and draw conclusions but honestly Communism is going through the same initial growing pains of Capitalism at the end of Feudalism... The ideology is being experimented with and changed to become stronger with each iteration... Sorry but economics is not a constant

[Kowani]

Don’t you support Sharia?

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

Alright, then. What’s your version of Sharia?

[Grand Proudhonia]

Yes, Sharia probably isn't what you think it is though. There are actually different types of it.

Alright, then. What’s your version of Sharia?

I mean, its either the one where gays are thrown off roofs or the one where gays get thrown off roofs

[Ayytaly]

Islam and Communism would be dandy if

1: Commies dropped their irreligious tenets &

2: Emirs and Sheiks weren't such selfish, sanginary scumbags (See: Prince MbS)

[Grand Proudhonia]

Islam and Communism would be dandy if

1: Commies dropped their irreligious tenets &

2: Emirs and Sheiks weren't such selfish, sanginary scumbags (See: Prince MbS)

@1979 Iranian Revolution

[Ayytaly]

Islam and Communism would be dandy if

1: Commies dropped their irreligious tenets &

2: Emirs and Sheiks weren't such selfish, sanginary scumbags (See: Prince MbS)

@1979 Iranian Revolution

I confused Communism for autocracy.