Hurricane Dorian

[Heloin]

The whole country benefits from the military kinda unfair to claim the states the bases are located in get extra benefits.

Also before you mention the soldiers spend money remember most soldiers live on base so no rent or property tax to the local economy, also if the buy at the PX it means to sales tax for the local state either.

Military bases only really help the dive bar and tattoo parlor economy. Neither of which are the basis of Florida, Texas, and California's economy.

Clearly you have not been to Jacksonville.

Someday's I assume NAS Jax and Mayport are the only things keeping the city afloat financially.

[Greed and Death]

The whole country benefits from the military kinda unfair to claim the states the bases are located in get extra benefits.

Also before you mention the soldiers spend money remember most soldiers live on base so no rent or property tax to the local economy, also if the buy at the PX it means to sales tax for the local state either.

Military bases only really help the dive bar and tattoo parlor economy. Neither of which are the basis of Florida, Texas, and California's economy.

Clearly you have not been to Jacksonville.

I actually have. Army sent my company to straighten some marines up. For the record army signal corpsmen are worth 3 marines apiece.

[Ethel mermania]

Clearly you have not been to Jacksonville.

Someday's I assume NAS Jax and Mayport are the only things keeping the city afloat financially.

A couple banks use to be there as i remember.

[Ethel mermania]

Clearly you have not been to Jacksonville.

I actually have. Army sent my company to straighten some marines up. For the record army signal corpsmen are worth 3 marines apiece.

Pic’s or its not true.

FWIW, DISA’s folks are some pretty interesting folks to work with, never known them to brawl much.

[Heloin]

Someday's I assume NAS Jax and Mayport are the only things keeping the city afloat financially.

A couple banks use to be there as i remember.

Still there, they make sure the city has a couple new unneeded skyscrapers every once in a while. Sure there's vacant ones but you can build a whole new one, that's fine.

[Ethel mermania]

A couple banks use to be there as i remember.

Still there, they make sure the city has a couple new unneeded skyscrapers every once in a while. Sure there's vacant ones but you can build a whole new one, that's fine.

How else to stamp your identity on a cityscape

[Victorious Decepticons]

Since it is taking so long to affect Miami Dade County and Broward County as a major Hurricane or as a Tropical Storm, if feels like it is not going to get here, is killing me, but it will. I think many persons in Miami Dade and Broward County think it is not going to be so bad for us, and what about the Keys.

According to what I seem to hear it will be considered a Tropical Storm for Miami Dade and Broward County, but I don't know what to think? What are the wind rates and storm categories for a Tropical Storm and a major Hurricane storm?

I think the wind for a tropical storm can hit something like 75MPH (EDIT: Checked; tropical storm force winds = 39-73 MPH), but having been in a couple of them, the description of "just a giant rainstorm" is quite accurate. A real tropical storm is TORRENTS of rain, belted down by a decent wind. I usually think they're fun. I just love the energy of a giant storm, danger be damned. The same goes for most actual hurricanes, though, so my opinion may be a bit out of the norm. LOL

That said, "tropical storm force winds" coming from a hurricane do NOT work quite like an actual tropical storm going over your head. Instead of a fairly steady, forceful rain, this situation typically causes blasts of super-powered rain and wind to come in lash-like waves as each arm of the 'cane passes over.

Even so, Dorian's snail-like speed can make a "giant rainstorm" into a huge flood, and I predict that to be the far bigger problem - not just because of the water itself, but because of what that water does to the structure of the ground. Big oaks are unlikely to snap, but I've seen many pictures of them having simply fallen over after previous storms. I'm hoping this hurricane speeds up so we don't get totally inundated as well as blown at.

[Greed and Death]

I actually have. Army sent my company to straighten some marines up. For the record army signal corpsmen are worth 3 marines apiece.

Pic’s or its not true.

FWIW, DISA’s folks are some pretty interesting folks to work with, never known them to brawl much.

Start doing 24 hour shifts with the same 5 guys for months on end and fight club develops.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

Eh.. I highly doubt that takes into account military subsidization. Florida receives one of the largest chunks of federal spending along with Texas, and California. Other states are forced to dump 75 billion dollars a year into bases there. Nearly 10% of floridas gdp.

The whole country benefits from the military kinda unfair to claim the states the bases are located in get extra benefits.

Also before you mention the soldiers spend money remember most soldiers live on base so no rent or property tax to the local economy, also if the buy at the PX it means to sales tax for the local state either.

Military bases only really help the dive bar and tattoo parlor economy. Neither of which are the basis of Florida, Texas, and California's economy.

No, deffinitely not. They buy groceries (and not just from the commissary), trucks, houses, and every manner of item civilians do. They often settle in those downs when they retire or change careers. The influx of cash does a lot more than you give credit for.

Oh and not all soldiers are tattooed alcoholics.

[Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba]

Since it is taking so long to affect Miami Dade County and Broward County as a major Hurricane or as a Tropical Storm, if feels like it is not going to get here, is killing me, but it will. I think many persons in Miami Dade and Broward County think it is not going to be so bad for us, and what about the Keys.

According to what I seem to hear it will be considered a Tropical Storm for Miami Dade and Broward County, but I don't know what to think? What are the wind rates and storm categories for a Tropical Storm and a major Hurricane storm?

Thank You HUElavia for posting the scale information.

GMS LHC

[Caleonia]

Since it is taking so long to affect Miami Dade County and Broward County as a major Hurricane or as a Tropical Storm, if feels like it is not going to get here, is killing me, but it will. I think many persons in Miami Dade and Broward County think it is not going to be so bad for us, and what about the Keys.

According to what I seem to hear it will be considered a Tropical Storm for Miami Dade and Broward County, but I don't know what to think? What are the wind rates and storm categories for a Tropical Storm and a major Hurricane storm?

I’d say that the Keys are going to be smashed like the Bahamas tomorrow or Dorian will barely miss the Keys and stay right along the coast. I’m no meteorologist but the lull of movement caused by the lack of tension in the atmosphere is a cause for major concern in those areas.

[Heloin]

I’d say that the Keys are going to be smashed like the Bahamas tomorrow or Dorian will barely miss the Keys and stay right along the coast. I’m no meteorologist but the lull of movement caused by the lack of tension in the atmosphere is a cause for major concern in those areas.

Do you know where the Keys are in relation to Florida?

[Caleonia]

I’d say that the Keys are going to be smashed like the Bahamas tomorrow or Dorian will barely miss the Keys and stay right along the coast. I’m no meteorologist but the lull of movement caused by the lack of tension in the atmosphere is a cause for major concern in those areas.

Do you know where the Keys are in relation to Florida?

Now that I think about it... yeah that was wrong. It’s likely gonna miss the Keys.

[Auze]

Seems to be predicted to be just off coast when it hits us. Gonna be a little rough come Thursday, but so long as power stays on, I'll manage just fine (Downtown Charleston is screwed, however).

[Purpelia]

They seriously need to start naming these things sensibly.

[ArenaC]

Since it is taking so long to affect Miami Dade County and Broward County as a major Hurricane or as a Tropical Storm, if feels like it is not going to get here, is killing me, but it will. I think many persons in Miami Dade and Broward County think it is not going to be so bad for us, and what about the Keys.

According to what I seem to hear it will be considered a Tropical Storm for Miami Dade and Broward County, but I don't know what to think? What are the wind rates and storm categories for a Tropical Storm and a major Hurricane storm?

I think the wind for a tropical storm can hit something like 75MPH (EDIT: Checked; tropical storm force winds = 39-73 MPH), but having been in a couple of them, the description of "just a giant rainstorm" is quite accurate. A real tropical storm is TORRENTS of rain, belted down by a decent wind. I usually think they're fun. I just love the energy of a giant storm, danger be damned. The same goes for most actual hurricanes, though, so my opinion may be a bit out of the norm. LOL

That said, "tropical storm force winds" coming from a hurricane do NOT work quite like an actual tropical storm going over your head. Instead of a fairly steady, forceful rain, this situation typically causes blasts of super-powered rain and wind to come in lash-like waves as each arm of the 'cane passes over.

Even so, Dorian's snail-like speed can make a "giant rainstorm" into a huge flood, and I predict that to be the far bigger problem - not just because of the water itself, but because of what that water does to the structure of the ground. Big oaks are unlikely to snap, but I've seen many pictures of them having simply fallen over after previous storms. I'm hoping this hurricane speeds up so we don't get totally inundated as well as blown at.

75MPH winds constitute a cyclone as a Cat1, for those who don’t know.

[Duhon]

Good God.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Good God.

Poor people. It reminds me somehow of the destruction in Aceh after the tsunami. It seems like large areas have been flattened to the ground....

Edited:

Hoping that this species won't go extinct. Poor birds.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

They seriously need to start naming these things sensibly.

What's wrong with the current naming system?

[Ethel mermania]

They seriously need to start naming these things sensibly.

What's wrong with the current naming system?

Every hurricane should be named Ethel.

[Rojava Free State]

So apparently trump tried to stand by his claim that Alabama was in danger by doctoring a fake path that showed dorian originally crossing Florida and striking Alabama

There's being dumb, and then there's that

[Rojava Free State]

If anyone is ready for a sad story, I got one

There was this old dude down in the Bahamas apparently and him and his wife were riding out the storm when the house caved in around them. They grabbed a hold of the counter top to stay afloat and he managed to get on top of it but his wife couldn't and after a period of time, she began succumbing to hypothermia before limply sinking beneath the waves. I cannot imagine having someone you love die in such a way before your eyes. This poor guy is gonna have a hard if not impossible time getting over what happened and it may scar him for the rest of his life. The death toll is only gonna rise too so there's that

[Salandriagado]

They seriously need to start naming these things sensibly.

What's wrong with the current naming system?

We should go back to naming them after politicians who pissed off the forecaster who named them.

[Rojava Free State]

What's wrong with the current naming system?

We should go back to naming them after politicians who pissed off the forecaster who named them.

For a storm as violent and destructive, dorian seems like a pretty pathetic and non threatening name. Imagine if we named it "hurricane death" instead

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

We should go back to naming them after politicians who pissed off the forecaster who named them.

For a storm as violent and destructive, dorian seems like a pretty pathetic and non threatening name. Imagine if we named it "hurricane death" instead

I seriously doubt the "non-threatening" names are the issue. George Carlin even joked that "Wayne LaPierre" sounds like too "fruity" a name for a gun nut. It's almost as if there's no such thing as what a non-threatening name sounds like; as if it's purely subjective.

Those who refuse to evacuate often claim they're sticking around to shoot at looters. I think it's barbaric and should be left in the hands of professionals, but I don't see any evidence that they're really motivated by how non-threatening the name is.