Unacceptable Restrictions in Relationships?

[United Muscovite Nations]

You're still getting gratification from the image of the person, which would be no different if they were standing ten feet in front of you, as the image in your brain is also "merely" an image.

Nope. There is an extra layer of disconnect.

Even so, it is not so disconnected that you are not imagining intercourse with the other person to gain sexual pleasure.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

It's a depiction of a person, not a person as such.

You're still getting gratification from the image of the person, which would be no different if they were standing ten feet in front of you, as the image in your brain is also "merely" an image.

...but if I were to stand ten feet from Leolulu she'd kick me out of her house and call the police.

[Andsed]

There is a big difference between thinking, "cor, I'd do him/her/it" to actually having sex with them. Just because you've already ordered doesn't mean you can't look at the menu.

If you're imagining sex with the person and stimulating the thought, then you've already been disloyal.

That is absurd. Just because you think sex with someone would be enjoyable does not mean your cheating.

[The New California Republic]

Nope. There is an extra layer of disconnect.

Even so, it is not so disconnected that you are not imagining intercourse with the other person to gain sexual pleasure.

Thinking and doing are different things. Just like the image of a person naked is different than that person being naked in front of you.

[Diopolis]

It's a depiction of a person, not a person as such.

You're still getting gratification from the image of the person, which would be no different if they were standing ten feet in front of you, as the image in your brain is also "merely" an image.

IF you’re fine with your partner watching porn but would be upset at them going to a strip club, then you’re being inconsistent here.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If you're imagining sex with the person and stimulating the thought, then you've already been disloyal.

That is absurd. Just because you think sex with someone would be enjoyable does not mean your cheating.

Thinking sex with someone would be enjoyable is one thing, pleasuring yourself to the thought of sex with that person is another.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

You're still getting gratification from the image of the person, which would be no different if they were standing ten feet in front of you, as the image in your brain is also "merely" an image.

IF you’re fine with your partner watching porn but would be upset at them going to a strip club, then you’re being inconsistent here.

Depends on the scenario, but tbh I wouldn't want to go to a strip club and neither would my wife. We're not strip club people.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Even so, it is not so disconnected that you are not imagining intercourse with the other person to gain sexual pleasure.

Thinking and doing are different things. Just like the image of a person naked is different than that person being naked in front of you.

I disagree. If you would take sexual pleasure from the image of someone, then that is, imo, not morally different from having actual sex with that person.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

That is absurd. Just because you think sex with someone would be enjoyable does not mean your cheating.

Thinking sex with someone would be enjoyable is one thing, pleasuring yourself to the thought of sex with that person is another.

What if you're using that person as an avatar/proxy for what you want to do with your partner? Or what if you're imagining a threesome with them and your partner?

[Cekoviu]

Each relationship is an individual situation and different circumstances may call for different approaches. If all parties contribute informed consent without being under duress, restrictions are acceptable. I would personally not consent to rules like the ones discussed in the OP, but that doesn't mean they can't be undertaken by any group of people.

[Cekoviu]

Thinking and doing are different things. Just like the image of a person naked is different than that person being naked in front of you.

I disagree. If you would take sexual pleasure from the image of someone, then that is, imo, not morally different from having actual sex with that person.

Much in the way that imagining eating a whole pizza is not different from eating a whole pizza with regards to health, yes.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Thinking sex with someone would be enjoyable is one thing, pleasuring yourself to the thought of sex with that person is another.

What if you're using that person as an avatar/proxy for what you want to do with your partner? Or what if you're imagining a threesome with them and your partner?

Both of those are morally wrong. Masturbation in-general is wrong.

[Cekoviu]

What if you're using that person as an avatar/proxy for what you want to do with your partner? Or what if you're imagining a threesome with them and your partner?

Both of those are morally wrong. Masturbation in-general is wrong.

Why?

[The New California Republic]

Thinking and doing are different things. Just like the image of a person naked is different than that person being naked in front of you.

I disagree. If you would take sexual pleasure from the image of someone, then that is, imo, not morally different from having actual sex with that person.

Alright, I guess we'll just need to leave it at that. You are wrong tho, in that imagining and doing is not morally equivalent.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Both of those are morally wrong. Masturbation in-general is wrong.

Why?

Because it is using another person for sexual gratification, i.e. as an object for one's own pleasure. It is fundamentally selfish.

[Cekoviu]

Why?

Because it is using another person for sexual gratification, i.e. as an object for one's own pleasure.

I think you have masturbation and sex confused, my dude.

It is fundamentally selfish.

As is everything else people do.

[Rainbowsix]

my gf makes me have 2 show messages and not 2 have friends... todays our anniversary we've been dating since 1/29/18 and she still doesnt trust me can someone possibly help me with why she doesnt? is it like past issues? is it me?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because it is using another person for sexual gratification, i.e. as an object for one's own pleasure.

I think you have masturbation and sex confused, my dude.

It is fundamentally selfish.

As is everything else people do.

Even using the image of another person for sexual gratification is fundamentally using the other person as an object of one's fantasy.

Many things we do are for sake of charity and love.

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my gf makes me have 2 show messages and not 2 have friends... todays our anniversary we've been dating since 1/29/18 and she still doesnt trust me can someone possibly help me with why she doesnt? is it like past issues? is it me?

Break up. That is extremely unhealthy.

[Rainbowsix]

my gf makes me have 2 show messages and not 2 have friends... todays our anniversary we've been dating since 1/29/18 and she still doesnt trust me can someone possibly help me with why she doesnt? is it like past issues? is it me?

Break up. That is extremely unhealthy.

idk if i should i dont wanna be alone... she treats me good n everything its just those restrictions.. ive never spoke 2 any1 about this

[Cekoviu]

my gf makes me have 2 show messages and not 2 have friends... todays our anniversary we've been dating since 1/29/18 and she still doesnt trust me can someone possibly help me with why she doesnt? is it like past issues? is it me?

Dump her if you're not okay with her violating your privacy and controlling your life.

I think you have masturbation and sex confused, my dude.

As is everything else people do.

Even using the image of another person for sexual gratification is fundamentally using the other person as an object of one's fantasy.

You're assuming masturbation requires porn, but it doesn't.

Many things we do are for sake of charity and love.

I've talked about why this is wrong before, so I see no need to rehash it.

[Cekoviu]

Break up. That is extremely unhealthy.

idk if i should i dont wanna be alone... she treats me good n everything its just those restrictions.. ive never spoke 2 any1 about this

This is basically saying "she treats me well except no, she doesn't."

[Rainbowsix]

idk if i should i dont wanna be alone... she treats me good n everything its just those restrictions.. ive never spoke 2 any1 about this

This is basically saying "she treats me well except no, she doesn't."

like shes there 4 me n everything i just dont understand why shes so uptight with me it makes me feel like its something i did

[United Muscovite Nations]

my gf makes me have 2 show messages and not 2 have friends... todays our anniversary we've been dating since 1/29/18 and she still doesnt trust me can someone possibly help me with why she doesnt? is it like past issues? is it me?

Dump her if you're not okay with her violating your privacy and controlling your life.

Even using the image of another person for sexual gratification is fundamentally using the other person as an object of one's fantasy.

You're assuming masturbation requires porn, but it doesn't.

Many things we do are for sake of charity and love.

I've talked about why this is wrong before, so I see no need to rehash it.

Whether it's a mental or physical image, it doesn't matter.

You can talk about it, but you're still mistaken.

[The New California Republic]

This is basically saying "she treats me well except no, she doesn't."

like shes there 4 me n everything i just dont understand why shes so uptight with me it makes me feel like its something i did

She might just have baggage from previous relationships.