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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:57 pm

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It's not really rape but yes these are real.

However it does not change the fact that Japan was the greatest NE Asian country before the rise of China. This may have saved us from global extermination.


Sure, no big deal..and you wonder why everyone else in Asia hates Japan?

And if Japan hadn't declared a war of aggression against China it would have been the strongest country in Asia far earlier than it was historically.


Sure. The Second Sino-Japanese War was an unfortunate event that shouldn't have happened.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:What concerns me about Japan is not race. It’s the mental health of its population and the little regard the society there has for people who don’t fit an established and rigid mold.

I thought it was China that was like that? Japan tolerates a lot of ideas that the west would not. (Schoolgirl hentai, for instance, is outlawed in much of Europe but not in Japan. America only allows it because of freedom of speech.)
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Postby Nihon koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:58 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
Nihon koku wrote:Is anyone arguing against that?

No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries

What even is a "white" country?

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfBzWJVbX4
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Postby New haven america » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:59 pm

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New haven america wrote:Or what about the time Japan literally raped an entire country.

Yep, Asian xenophobia is much more peaceful.

LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.

Korea, China, Indochina, Indonesia, etc... would disagree.

Particularly in Korea and China, where their actions made the Nazi's seem like the good guys by comparison.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:00 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:What concerns me about Japan is not race. It’s the mental health of its population and the little regard the society there has for people who don’t fit an established and rigid mold.

I thought it was China that was like that? Japan tolerates a lot of ideas that the west would not. (Schoolgirl hentai, for instance, is outlawed in much of Europe but not in Japan. America only allows it because of freedom of speech.)


Nope, Japanese society is this way. Especially regarding individuality.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:00 pm

Nihon koku wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries

What even is a "white" country?

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfBzWJVbX4
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:00 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:What concerns me about Japan is not race. It’s the mental health of its population and the little regard the society there has for people who don’t fit an established and rigid mold.

I thought it was China that was like that? Japan tolerates a lot of ideas that the west would not. (Schoolgirl hentai, for instance, is outlawed in much of Europe but not in Japan. America only allows it because of freedom of speech.)

China is socially fairly lax.
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Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Mmmm, nope.

Then why else would it be so hard to move to Japan? They are nationalistic people are they not?

1. It's not so hard to move to Japan.
2. They aren't doing it to 'preserve' their culture. Japanese culture is a very eclectic mixture of a lot of things and Japan is usually hungry for more to import. I'm not sitting on a zabudon and tatami in a washitsu while wearing a kimono and using a fude on washiki to talk to you right now.
3. Not really, no. The nationalist are the people in the black sound vans who annoy the hell out of everyone else.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:01 pm

New haven america wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.

Korea, China, Indochina, Indonesia, etc... would disagree.

Particularly in Korea and China, where their actions made the Nazi's seem like the good guys by comparison.


I think we simply disagree on what it means to rape a country. I interpreted it literally. I won't say that they make Nazis seem like good guys. Nope. IJA/IJN brutality can be easily understood from a Sinosphere POV. It is basically "legalized" mass Zhangism. Zhangism isn't a genocidal ideology like Nazism. Instead it is people going Eliot Rodgers.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:03 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
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Successful essentially white-only states already exist. Iceland is a good example.

Isolation is key as to why they're more crime-free compared to Sweden. Same goes for Japan.

Baloney.

Seriously, baloney.
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Postby Great Celestial China » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:03 pm

Nihon koku wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries

What even is a "white" country?

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfBzWJVbX4
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Canadian and American culture is basically just English but combined with others, like Scottish, Irish, French, etc.

"White" nations isn't the best term to use, European or Western is the more accurate, since not everyone living there is white.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:If Japan is having population problems and everything has failed (if the Japanese on their own, aren't capable of reproducing enough), it is arguably better if Japan imported some Chinese and Koreans because the resulting babies will look Japanese enough. After all, Japan has some historical precedent for taking Chinese and Korean women as war conquests, so... what difference will there be if Japan's immediate neighbors were used/exploited for Japan's national interests once more, only via targeted breeding/immigration?

Even though I'd prefer Japanese to be sleeping with other Japanese, if that is not possible to enough of an extent- it is better that they sleep with Chinese and Koreans so the product of that will still look suitably Asian or Japanese enough. Just as it is more acceptable in my mind for a Japanese woman to have slept with a White American GI than for her to have been with a Black American GI.

A half White Japanese will look more Asian than a half Black Japanese. Thus the damage to that heritage is perceivably less, even if its still there.

This is when I REALLY miss the facepalm.
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NERVUN wrote:
Saiwania wrote:If Japan is having population problems and everything has failed (if the Japanese on their own, aren't capable of reproducing enough), it is arguably better if Japan imported some Chinese and Koreans because the resulting babies will look Japanese enough. After all, Japan has some historical precedent for taking Chinese and Korean women as war conquests, so... what difference will there be if Japan's immediate neighbors were used/exploited for Japan's national interests once more, only via targeted breeding/immigration?

Even though I'd prefer Japanese to be sleeping with other Japanese, if that is not possible to enough of an extent- it is better that they sleep with Chinese and Koreans so the product of that will still look suitably Asian or Japanese enough. Just as it is more acceptable in my mind for a Japanese woman to have slept with a White American GI than for her to have been with a Black American GI.

A half White Japanese will look more Asian than a half Black Japanese. Thus the damage to that heritage is perceivably less, even if its still there.

This is when I REALLY miss the facepalm.


You ever see that meme of a guy facepalming so hard that his hand went through his face?

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Postby Nihon koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:05 pm

Saiwania wrote:If Japan is having population problems and everything has failed (if the Japanese on their own, aren't capable of reproducing enough), it is arguably better if Japan imported some Chinese and Koreans because the resulting babies will look Japanese enough. After all, Japan has some historical precedent for taking Chinese and Korean women as war conquests, so... what difference will there be if Japan's immediate neighbors were used/exploited for Japan's national interests once more, only via targeted breeding/immigration?

Even though I'd prefer Japanese to be sleeping with other Japanese, if that is not possible to enough of an extent- it is better that they sleep with Chinese and Koreans so the product of that will still look suitably Asian or Japanese enough. Just as it is more acceptable in my mind for a Japanese woman to have slept with a White American GI than for her to have been with a Black American GI.

A half White Japanese will look more Asian than a half Black Japanese. Thus the damage to that heritage is perceivably less, even if its still there.


This is a very bizarre post. :blink:

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:What concerns me about Japan is not race. It’s the mental health of its population and the little regard the society there has for people who don’t fit an established and rigid mold.

I thought it was China that was like that? Japan tolerates a lot of ideas that the west would not. (Schoolgirl hentai, for instance, is outlawed in much of Europe but not in Japan. America only allows it because of freedom of speech.)

*sighs* Japan's idea of what to tolerate is simply different from your idea of what to tolerate. That doesn't mean it's particularly more tolerant.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:06 pm

Great Celestial China wrote:
Nihon koku wrote:What even is a "white" country?

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfBzWJVbX4
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Canadian and American culture is basically just English but combined with others, like Scottish, Irish, French, etc.

"White" nations isn't the best term to use, European or Western is the more accurate, since not everyone living there is white.


And because not all Europeans are white either (objectively speaking, Greek people have medium olive brown skin).
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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:I thought it was China that was like that? Japan tolerates a lot of ideas that the west would not. (Schoolgirl hentai, for instance, is outlawed in much of Europe but not in Japan. America only allows it because of freedom of speech.)

*sighs* Japan's idea of what to tolerate is simply different from your idea of what to tolerate. That doesn't mean it's particularly more tolerant.

Exactly.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:07 pm

Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:Correlation does not necessarily imply causation.

There isn't even a correlation. I really fail to see how homogeneity boosts economic progress. People are simply using wrong variables here.

My suggestion is using a linear regression model. No, we don't need any variable for diversity. Instead we simply need a variable for each ethnic group.
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:08 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:Correlation does not necessarily imply causation.

There isn't even a correlation. I really fail to see how homogeneity boosts economic product.

I know that. OP may not.
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Postby Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:08 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:Then why else would it be so hard to move to Japan? They are nationalistic people are they not?

1. It's not so hard to move to Japan.
2. They aren't doing it to 'preserve' their culture. Japanese culture is a very eclectic mixture of a lot of things and Japan is usually hungry for more to import. I'm not sitting on a zabudon and tatami in a washitsu while wearing a kimono and using a fude on washiki to talk to you right now.
3. Not really, no. The nationalist are the people in the black sound vans who annoy the hell out of everyone else.

Well because you'er Japanese I will take your word for what you say, at least for point 1 and 2.
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Rojava Free State wrote:
Great Celestial China wrote:Canadian and American culture is basically just English but combined with others, like Scottish, Irish, French, etc.

"White" nations isn't the best term to use, European or Western is the more accurate, since not everyone living there is white.


And because not all Europeans are white either (objectively speaking, Greek people have medium olive brown skin).

Sometimes. There is always some amount of variation in skin color even among people of the same ethnicity, and the variation in Greeks is fairly large.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:
NERVUN wrote:1. It's not so hard to move to Japan.
2. They aren't doing it to 'preserve' their culture. Japanese culture is a very eclectic mixture of a lot of things and Japan is usually hungry for more to import. I'm not sitting on a zabudon and tatami in a washitsu while wearing a kimono and using a fude on washiki to talk to you right now.
3. Not really, no. The nationalist are the people in the black sound vans who annoy the hell out of everyone else.

Well because you'er Japanese I will take your word for what you say, at least for point 1 and 2.


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Postby New haven america » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
New haven america wrote:Korea, China, Indochina, Indonesia, etc... would disagree.

Particularly in Korea and China, where their actions made the Nazi's seem like the good guys by comparison.


I think we simply disagree on what it means to rape a country. I interpreted it literally. I won't say that they make Nazis seem like good guys. Nope. IJA/IJN brutality can be easily understood from a Sinosphere POV. It is basically "legalized" mass Zhangism. Zhangism isn't a genocidal ideology like Nazism. Instead it is people going Eliot Rodgers.

No, they did literally rape Korea and China.

The Nazi's in China had to open a no-go zone/refugee camp in China to keep the Chinese safe from Japanese soldiers.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:10 pm

Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:
NERVUN wrote:1. It's not so hard to move to Japan.
2. They aren't doing it to 'preserve' their culture. Japanese culture is a very eclectic mixture of a lot of things and Japan is usually hungry for more to import. I'm not sitting on a zabudon and tatami in a washitsu while wearing a kimono and using a fude on washiki to talk to you right now.
3. Not really, no. The nationalist are the people in the black sound vans who annoy the hell out of everyone else.

Well because you'er Japanese I will take your word for what you say, at least for point 1 and 2.

He not, he's a white American. He does however, live in Japan.
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