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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:24 pm

Empire of Asgadr wrote:
Kubra wrote: what about when that bloke declared himself Jesus's favourite drinking buddy or something and then like a gazillion people died


Hong Xiuquan, he declared himself the younger Brother of Jesus and started a rebellion against the Manchu. His rebellion killed an estimated 20 - 30 million people


China has a tendency to implode every 200-300 years. It does not change the fact that when we don't observe these implosions China is generally fairly peaceful.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:26 pm

New haven america wrote:
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Hong Xiuquan, he declared himself the younger Brother of Jesus and started a rebellion against the Manchu. His rebellion killed an estimated 20 - 30 million people

Or what about the time Japan literally raped an entire country.

Yep, Asian xenophobia is much more peaceful.

LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.
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Postby Nihon koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:29 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:If Japan wishes to remain Japanese then I see no reason why it should not be able to.

Is anyone arguing against that?

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Postby Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:31 pm

I don't find what Japan is doing racist. They just want to preserve their culture and are nationalistic.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:33 pm

Nihon koku wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:If Japan wishes to remain Japanese then I see no reason why it should not be able to.

Is anyone arguing against that?

No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries such as the US and Australia should remain and reinforce such racial policies. Ergo, threadjackers are using Japan as a platform with /pol/-esque rhetoric.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:36 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
Nihon koku wrote:Is anyone arguing against that?

No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries such as the US and Australia should remain and reinforce such racial policies. Ergo, threadjackers are using Japan as a platform with /pol/-esque rhetoric.


Japan remaining mostly Japanese would be akin to Germany remaining mostly german, not America remaining mostly white. There is no nation that is officially asian. The Japanese are trying to specifically remain japanese. They don't even want large numbers of Koreans moving in. Totally different than what the alt right is proposing
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:37 pm

Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:I don't find what Japan is doing racist. They just want to preserve their culture and are nationalistic.

Mmmm, nope.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:38 pm

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Ayytaly wrote:No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries such as the US and Australia should remain and reinforce such racial policies. Ergo, threadjackers are using Japan as a platform with /pol/-esque rhetoric.


Japan remaining mostly Japanese would be akin to Germany remaining mostly german, not America remaining mostly white. There is no nation that is officially NE Asian. The Japanese are trying to specifically remain japanese. They don't even want large numbers of Koreans moving in. Totally different than what the alt right is proposing


We can and should create one in space.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:40 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or what about the time Japan literally raped an entire country.

Yep, Asian xenophobia is much more peaceful.

LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.


Korea and Manchuria would disagree.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.


Korea and Manchuria would disagree.


Not really. IJA and IJN did commit a lot of war crimes..but still not to the point of "raping a country" (as in raping every woman in it?! What?!).
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:LOL nope.

Yes IJA war rape did exist. However Japan never fucking raped an entire country. That's infeasible.


Korea and Manchuria would disagree.


Particularly Korea, where there are a lot of people who still hate the Japanese over that.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:42 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Japan remaining mostly Japanese would be akin to Germany remaining mostly german, not America remaining mostly white. There is no nation that is officially NE Asian. The Japanese are trying to specifically remain japanese. They don't even want large numbers of Koreans moving in. Totally different than what the alt right is proposing


We can and should create one in space.


It could happen if you start having kids again and don't commit yourselves to a life of webcam chatting, videogaming, moldy Hungry Howie's pizza and weird stuff geeky people do in their spare time
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:43 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Korea and Manchuria would disagree.


Not really. IJA and IJN did commit a lot of war crimes..but still not to the point of "raping a country" (as in raping every woman in it?! What?!).


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Postby Vetalia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:43 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Korea and Manchuria would disagree.


Not really. IJA and IJN did commit a lot of war crimes..but still not to the point of "raping a country" (as in rape every woman in it?! Nope).


Well, sure, if you frame it in that absurdly narrow way, no. But in any literal sense, yes the Japanese did rape Korea and Manchuria.
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Postby Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:43 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel wrote:I don't find what Japan is doing racist. They just want to preserve their culture and are nationalistic.

Mmmm, nope.

Then why else would it be so hard to move to Japan? They are nationalistic people are they not?
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:44 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
Not really. IJA and IJN did commit a lot of war crimes..but still not to the point of "raping a country" (as in rape every woman in it?! Nope).


Well, sure, if you frame it in that absurdly narrow way way no. But in any literal sense, yes the Japanese did rape Korea and Manchuria.

As in "exploit" then for sure.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:No, we're arguing against the notion that Japan being ethnocentric is justification that "white" countries such as the US and Australia should remain and reinforce such racial policies. Ergo, threadjackers are using Japan as a platform with /pol/-esque rhetoric.


Japan remaining mostly Japanese would be akin to Germany remaining mostly german, not America remaining mostly white. There is no nation that is officially asian. The Japanese are trying to specifically remain japanese. They don't even want large numbers of Koreans moving in. Totally different than what the alt right is proposing

You DO realize that the altright/nazincels overlook Japanese ethnic identity and only see Japan as being 95% Oriental Asian, right? That's what I meant about Altrighters salivating over the idea of "white-only" nations (most being former colonies), and use Japan as a comparison for its success as a "racially monogenous" nation.
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Neko-koku wrote:
We can and should create one in space.


It could happen if you start having kids again and don't commit yourselves to a life of webcam chatting, videogaming, moldy Hungry Howie's pizza and weird stuff geeky people do in their spare time

It's hard.

I prefer programming and writing stories to dating. Sorry.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:45 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Japan remaining mostly Japanese would be akin to Germany remaining mostly german, not America remaining mostly white. There is no nation that is officially asian. The Japanese are trying to specifically remain japanese. They don't even want large numbers of Koreans moving in. Totally different than what the alt right is proposing

You DO realize that the altright/nazincels overlook Japanese ethnic identity and only see Japan as being 95% Oriental Asian, right? That's what I meant about Altrighters salivating over the idea of "white-only" nations (most being former colonies), and use Japan as a comparison for its success as a "racially monogenous" nation.


Successful essentially white-only states already exist. Iceland is a good example.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Well, sure, if you frame it in that absurdly narrow way way no. But in any literal sense, yes the Japanese did rape Korea and Manchuria.

As in "exploit" then for sure.


Forced opium addiction, extraction of comfort women and using Chinese as "logs" in the Unit 731 experiments goes a hell of a lot farther than merely "exploiting" Manchuria and Korea. That sounds like rape to me.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:As in "exploit" then for sure.


Forced opium addiction, extraction of comfort women and using Chinese as "logs" in the Unit 731 experiments goes a hell of a lot farther than merely "exploiting" Manchuria and Korea. That sounds like rape to me.


It's not really rape but yes these are real.

However it does not change the fact that Japan was the greatest NE Asian country before the rise of China. This may have saved us from global extermination.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:48 pm

If Japan is having population problems and everything has failed (if the Japanese on their own, aren't capable of reproducing enough), it is arguably better if Japan imported some Chinese and Koreans because the resulting babies will look Japanese enough. After all, Japan has some historical precedent for taking Chinese and Korean women as war conquests, so... what difference will there be if Japan's immediate neighbors were used/exploited for Japan's national interests once more, only via targeted breeding/immigration?

Even though I'd prefer Japanese to be sleeping with other Japanese, if that is not possible to enough of an extent- it is better that they sleep with Chinese and Koreans so the product of that will still look suitably Asian or Japanese enough. Just as it is more acceptable in my mind for a Japanese woman to have slept with a White American GI than for her to have been with a Black American GI.

A half White Japanese will look more Asian than a half Black Japanese. Thus the damage to that heritage is perceivably less, even if its still there.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:50 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:You DO realize that the altright/nazincels overlook Japanese ethnic identity and only see Japan as being 95% Oriental Asian, right? That's what I meant about Altrighters salivating over the idea of "white-only" nations (most being former colonies), and use Japan as a comparison for its success as a "racially monogenous" nation.


Successful essentially white-only states already exist. Iceland is a good example.

Isolation is key as to why they're more crime-free compared to Sweden. Same goes for Japan.
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Postby Vetalia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:50 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Forced opium addiction, extraction of comfort women and using Chinese as "logs" in the Unit 731 experiments goes a hell of a lot farther than merely "exploiting" Manchuria and Korea. That sounds like rape to me.


It's not really rape but yes these are real.

However it does not change the fact that Japan was the greatest NE Asian country before the rise of China. This may have saved us from global extermination.


Sure, no big deal..and you wonder why everyone else in Asia hates Japan?

And if Japan hadn't declared a war of aggression against China it would have been the strongest country in Asia far earlier than it was historically.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:56 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:
Successful essentially white-only states already exist. Iceland is a good example.

Isolation is key as to why they're more crime-free compared to Sweden. Same goes for Japan.

Wut? Japan and Iceland are both very low crime.
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