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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:26 am

Hatsunia wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:What the article fails to mention is that the US is esentially the sexiest country to go to if you're a foreign tech specialist, and has higher wages and demand compared to Japan. Not to mention that English is an L2 language in most countries such as India (former UK colony), whereas Japanese is hell to learn.

So what Japan should have done is made English a second official language, isn't that right?

Also cultural differences. The US is depicted as a "multicultural" nation, which gives off the impression that you - a foreigner - will be easily accepted into society. The perception of Japan being culturally conservative might be an exaggeration, but a lot of people take such view at face value. Same with China and Korea. Most of those misconceptions have actually originated from the Western world.
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Postby Hatsunia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:30 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:So what Japan should have done is made English a second official language, isn't that right?

Also cultural differences. The US is depicted as a "multicultural" nation, which gives off the impression that you - a foreigner - will be easily accepted into society. The perception of Japan being culturally conservative might be an exaggeration, but a lot of people take such view at face value. Same with China and Korea. Most of those misconceptions have actually originated from the Western world.

If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia, then it would be capable of attracting IT talent from all over the world.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:32 am

Hatsunia wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:Also cultural differences. The US is depicted as a "multicultural" nation, which gives off the impression that you - a foreigner - will be easily accepted into society. The perception of Japan being culturally conservative might be an exaggeration, but a lot of people take such view at face value. Same with China and Korea. Most of those misconceptions have actually originated from the Western world.

If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia...

Translation: If only Japan stopped being so Japanese and started becoming forcibly multiracial like Beikoku-sama.
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Postby Hatsunia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:34 am

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Hatsunia wrote:If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia...

Translation: If only Japan stopped being so Japanese and started becoming forcibly multiracial like Beikoku-sama.

It doesn't need to be forced at all.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:34 am

Hatsunia wrote:If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia, then it would be capable of attracting IT talent from all over the world.


Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:38 am

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Ayytaly wrote:Translation: If only Japan stopped being so Japanese and started becoming forcibly multiracial like Beikoku-sama.

It doesn't need to be forced at all.

Tell that to the many US military bases in Japan

Saiwania wrote:Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.


Roma? You mean Rome, right? Perfect civization, pinnacle of human society, yet taken down by the nords (white people), thus harbinging blight and pestilence to Europa.

But I digress.
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Postby Hatsunia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:40 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:It doesn't need to be forced at all.

Tell that to the many US military bases in Japan

Attracting tech talent doesn't need to be related to having a foreign country's military bases on your soil.
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Postby Tupolite » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:46 am

Stable demographic proportions are key if the identity of a nation is to survive and ethnically homogeneous nations are more stable than those with troublesome minority demographics almost as a rule, but I cannot see this brainless adulation of all things Japanese that has emerged as a result of this mentality. Japanese culture, post-WWII, is a diseased cesspool of open sexual depravity, and the average age of the population is increasing as a result of low natality. This is fostered by those predominant aspects of modern Japanese society which are just raw, unbridled materialism. Women have no desire to seek men, men become shut-ins and social pariahs as a result of their insuperable anxieties, the working youth of the nation is mercilessly bled dry to line the pockets of senile useless corporate parasites, and the workforce is increasingly being replaced by imported Filipino migrants. If it weren't for the essential technological and cultural superiority of the West to begin with anyway, Japan, and this goes for every East Asian nation, would be locked into the primitive mode of political, social, and economic existence that they all shared prior to the mid-19th century. All of what Asia "is" today has been borrowed from Europe, without a shred of gratitude.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:47 am

Ayytaly wrote:Roma? You mean Rome, right?


Romani people. I knew a resident from Budapest in Hungary named Zsolt, he explained to me on many occasions how terrible it is to have them around. If it is true that they cause many problems for his part of the world, I can better understand why Anti-Ziganism exists as apart of political platforms over there.
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Postby Tupolite » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:49 am

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Hatsunia wrote:Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.


The level of civilization of the Slavs is very base and crude when left to their own devices. The best they can hope for is the introduction of a superior social and cultural order through conquest and paternalistic colonization.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:55 am

Ho boy. The R word.

Yes, Japan do appear really protective of their own kind people and have staunch anti-immigration policies. So? If it works for them, then they have no need to change it.

Multiculturalism just wouldn't really work, and it's ok to admit that it doesn't work for everyone.
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:56 am

NERVUN wrote:I really, really wish the anti-immigrant groups would stop salivating over Japan. I mean, they're almost, ALMOST as bad as the otaku set who think all Japan is JUST like their favorite anime.

honestly they're a lot worse
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Postby Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:01 am

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Physically it might be a thing.

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Postby Philjia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:19 am

Japan's intense social conservatism's allowing it waltz headlong into impending crisis. Broad swathes of the nation are overworked, undersexed, severely depressed, or all three. People aren't starting families or making time for romance, and the resulting low consumption is harming the economy.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:05 am

Philjia wrote:Japan's intense social conservatism's allowing it waltz headlong into impending crisis. Broad swathes of the nation are overworked, undersexed, severely depressed, or all three. People aren't starting families or making time for romance, and the resulting low consumption is harming the economy.


Well, Japan can't compete with China nor should they. Frankly, the fact that Japan is #3 in the world for economic prowess, is a miracle in itself. They work so hard to stay ahead and competitive, perhaps too hard. But if they're willing to continue long work hours as their norm, that is on them. Who're we to want them to stop?
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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:12 am

The liberal left wants to force on japan the same multiracial multiculturalism they imposed on west

They want all of us to mix with blacks and people from poverty countries to fullfil their dream off equality in poverty
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:39 am

Blueflarst wrote:The liberal left wants to force on japan the same multiracial multiculturalism they imposed on west

They want all of us to mix with blacks and people from poverty countries to fullfil their dream off equality in poverty


Steady there, son.
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Blueflarst wrote:The liberal left wants to force on japan the same multiracial multiculturalism they imposed on west

They want all of us to mix with blacks and people from poverty countries to fullfil their dream off equality in poverty


First of all, culture is not inherently related to race.

As for the rest of your post, the "liberal left" sounds awfully like the "Jews trying to destroy the white race" narrative we had many decades ago.

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Lundenia wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:The liberal left wants to force on japan the same multiracial multiculturalism they imposed on west

They want all of us to mix with blacks and people from poverty countries to fullfil their dream off equality in poverty


First of all, culture is not inherently related to race.

As for the rest of your post, the "liberal left" sounds awfully like the "Jews trying to destroy the white race" narrative we had many decades ago.


B-b-b-but, anti-racist is anti-white!
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Tupolite wrote:
Saiwania wrote:


The level of civilization of the Slavs is very base and crude when left to their own devices. The best they can hope for is the introduction of a superior social and cultural order through conquest and paternalistic colonization.

That sounds almost like Lebensraum.

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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:52 am

Tupolite wrote:
Saiwania wrote:


The level of civilization of the Slavs is very base and crude when left to their own devices. The best they can hope for is the introduction of a superior social and cultural order through conquest and paternalistic colonization.


I really shouldn't resort to ad hominem, but seeing Fascism as one of your pros really does say a lot.
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Bear Stearns wrote:A buddy of mine interned at the Tokyo office of a mid-tier US bank. He said it was awesome. Business culture is like what America's used to be before PC HR departments ruined all the fun. Sounds awesome

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Tupolite wrote:troublesome minority demographics

"minorities are troublesome" or "specific minorities that are troublesome"?

Tupolite wrote:Japanese culture, post-WWII, is a diseased cesspool of open sexual depravity


Tupolite wrote:Women have no desire to seek men, men become shut-ins and social pariahs as a result of their insuperable anxieties

hmm

Tupolite wrote:This is fostered by those predominant aspects of modern Japanese society which are just raw, unbridled materialism.

huh, your post had something right.

Tupolite wrote:If it weren't for the essential technological and cultural superiority of the West to begin with anyway, Japan, and this goes for every East Asian nation, would be locked into the primitive mode of political, social, and economic existence that they all shared prior to the mid-19th century. All of what Asia "is" today has been borrowed from Europe, without a shred of gratitude.

LOL

Tupolite wrote:The level of civilization of the Slavs is very base and crude when left to their own devices. The best they can hope for is the introduction of a superior social and cultural order through conquest and paternalistic colonization.

lol what a surprise
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Postby Firrian Islands » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:05 am

You want an ultra-homogenous country right?

Poland is the best example. They're very homogenous both racially and religiously.

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Postby Juristonia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:16 am

Saiwania wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia, then it would be capable of attracting IT talent from all over the world.


Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.

I like how you keep clinging on to this line of reasoning, even though Nerv, pretty extensively, told you exactly why you're wrong.
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Postby Freaneet » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:18 am

Japan is racist.
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