by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:44 pm
by Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:49 pm
by Neko-koku » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:00 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:When you think of Japan, what comes to mind? The better automobiles? The efficient public transit? The colourful lights of Tokyo? The anime and manga?
Japan is a success story, a pinnacle of innovation and prosperity, and yet, a common criticism is its stance on race. Of all the examples cited of "Asia for Asians, white countries for everyone" it's arguably the one white people most badly wanted to go to in the first place. (Not that rejecting people pre-emptively before they even apply to immigrate was any less exclusionary.) It's notoriously averse to immigration, despite its aging population, as if they're holding onto some goal of racial homogeneity.
And yet, I cannot help wondering... what if the latter is the reason for those successes in the first place?
Regardless of any positive stereotypes about the Japanese or even Asians as a whole, another factor is the supposed value of racial homogeneity in the first place. It's human nature to side with one's own kind. It's plainly obvious from the conflicts between different races throughout history. It's no longer on that scale anymore, but is it possible that a smaller-scale version of that might be undermining the trust that clearly benefits co-operation? I wouldn't be surprised. If so, that is in turn useful to have in anything done more effectively as teams than as individuals...
by Neko-koku » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:01 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Saying Japan is "Asia for asians" totally fails to comprehend their ideology. The Japanese don't even want other Asians in their nation in large numbers. The Japanese are ethnocentric about themselves and have no need to share the spotlight with anyone else based on physical resemblance, at least in their minds
by Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:02 pm
by NERVUN » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:38 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:42 pm
NERVUN wrote:Oh joy. Yet another one of these.
Hate to tell you this, no one actually knows what the fricken racial composition of Japan is because Japan itself doesn't bother to keep track of it. Is it like the US? No. Is it somehow pure and only Japanese? No.
Also, the notion that somehow Japan, JAPAN of all fricken places, is kumbaya, we understand and get along swell, gotta have WA place, ignores SO much of what Japanese history IS, it's laughable. Simply and utterly laughable.
I really, really wish the anti-immigrant groups would stop salivating over Japan. I mean, they're almost, ALMOST as bad as the otaku set who think all Japan is JUST like their favorite anime.
by Saiwania » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:43 pm
by NERVUN » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:50 pm
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:NERVUN wrote:Oh joy. Yet another one of these.
Hate to tell you this, no one actually knows what the fricken racial composition of Japan is because Japan itself doesn't bother to keep track of it. Is it like the US? No. Is it somehow pure and only Japanese? No.
Also, the notion that somehow Japan, JAPAN of all fricken places, is kumbaya, we understand and get along swell, gotta have WA place, ignores SO much of what Japanese history IS, it's laughable. Simply and utterly laughable.
I really, really wish the anti-immigrant groups would stop salivating over Japan. I mean, they're almost, ALMOST as bad as the otaku set who think all Japan is JUST like their favorite anime.
What exactly are you arguing against? Nobody is saying Japan is 100% pure and only Japanese. I can also assure you Japan isn't Heaven on Earth either. That didn't exactly need reiteration.
by NERVUN » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:51 pm
Saiwania wrote:Japan doesn't have to be 100% perfectly homogenous, the point is- that it is the one country in the world that is close enough to that standard for it to be praiseworthy. Japan has all the right anti-immigration policies and I love it. Japan has a way of keeping Japan Japanese. They must not lose sight of this and make the mistakes that countries such as Canada and Australia have made in becoming diverse.
by Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:00 am
by Saiwania » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:07 am
NERVUN wrote:Japan's version of immigration is complex and a lot of smoke and mirrors that leave the actual number very much in doubt. So to say Japan is an anti-immigrant country is rather false. To say Japan is some how pure is false. To say that Japan is safe because of being anti-immigrant is also very much false.
by Pacomia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:09 am
by Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:11 am
Pacomia wrote:Why does this matter? A country’s a country, regardless of whether it’s homegeneous or a melting pot.
by Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:12 am
by Nova Cyberia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:14 am
by Hatsunia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:16 am
Japan once hooked the world on Walkmen, VCRs, compact discs and video game consoles. The country’s name became a global brand, signifying advanced technology re-imagined for everyday use. American competitors seemed one step behind, if not a bit square.
But sometime around the dawn of the new century, Japan’s lead vanished. Japan didn’t invent the iPod or the iPhone. Or Yahoo and Google. Or Amazon and Alibaba. Or Facebook and Twitter. Or Airbnb and Uber.
“A more agile style is needed for us in the last 20 years,” said Jun Yamadera, founder of software and web services company Eyes, Japan. “A breakthrough technology always starts in the U.S.”
So what happened?
One answer may lie in immigration. Silicon Valley attracts talent from around the world, whereas Japan keeps tight limits on immigration.
In some years, more engineers have moved to the United States on H1-B visas than have graduated from American universities, said David Weinstein, chair of Columbia University’s economics department.
“To get some sense of the impact of immigration in high tech, imagine what would happen to Silicon Valley if every U.S. tech company fired all their foreign-born workers,” said Weinstein, who teaches about the Japanese economy. “U.S. leadership would collapse.”
by NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:19 am
Saiwania wrote:NERVUN wrote:Japan's version of immigration is complex and a lot of smoke and mirrors that leave the actual number very much in doubt. So to say Japan is an anti-immigrant country is rather false. To say Japan is some how pure is false. To say that Japan is safe because of being anti-immigrant is also very much false.
Well, if that is the case- the point is that if the number is in doubt, the amount of immigration is probably less and not more. If it were more, people would be able to notice Japan's population looking drastically different than it used to. This hasn't happened, thus it isn't happening that Japan is becoming more diverse. Nor should this ever be the case. If it were true that Japan were importing a bunch of Blacks, Arabs, etc. you can bet that many people across the world would be complaining about it.
Japan didn't let themselves be ruined by an American military occupation, but they could've. Instead they made the best of things, and rebuilt in short order. After the US left, Japan went back towards what they really wanted as national policy, but kept any beneficial changes that they liked. That is their genius. They're willing to accept change that is advantageous, but will modify it for their own purposes.
by Ayytaly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:20 am
Hatsunia wrote:Institutional xenophobia is detrimental to the Japanese economy, including its tech industry.Japan once hooked the world on Walkmen, VCRs, compact discs and video game consoles. The country’s name became a global brand, signifying advanced technology re-imagined for everyday use. American competitors seemed one step behind, if not a bit square.
But sometime around the dawn of the new century, Japan’s lead vanished. Japan didn’t invent the iPod or the iPhone. Or Yahoo and Google. Or Amazon and Alibaba. Or Facebook and Twitter. Or Airbnb and Uber.
“A more agile style is needed for us in the last 20 years,” said Jun Yamadera, founder of software and web services company Eyes, Japan. “A breakthrough technology always starts in the U.S.”So what happened?
One answer may lie in immigration. Silicon Valley attracts talent from around the world, whereas Japan keeps tight limits on immigration.
In some years, more engineers have moved to the United States on H1-B visas than have graduated from American universities, said David Weinstein, chair of Columbia University’s economics department.
“To get some sense of the impact of immigration in high tech, imagine what would happen to Silicon Valley if every U.S. tech company fired all their foreign-born workers,” said Weinstein, who teaches about the Japanese economy. “U.S. leadership would collapse.”
by NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:21 am
by Hatsunia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:22 am
Ayytaly wrote:What the article fails to mention is that the US is esentially the sexiest country to go to if you're a foreign tech specialist, and has higher wages and demand compared to Japan. Not to mention that English is an L2 language in most countries such as India (former UK colony), whereas Japanese is hell to learn.
by NERVUN » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:23 am
Hatsunia wrote:Ayytaly wrote:What the article fails to mention is that the US is esentially the sexiest country to go to if you're a foreign tech specialist, and has higher wages and demand compared to Japan. Not to mention that English is an L2 language in most countries such as India (former UK colony), whereas Japanese is hell to learn.
So what Japan should have done is made English a second official language and paid more attention (and money) to its software engineers, isn't that right?
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