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Alcohol

Should Be Legal For Anyone of Any Age
21
19%
Should Have a Minimum Age for Purchase/Consumption
75
69%
Should Be Illegal For Everybody
8
7%
Other (Explain)
4
4%
 
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Postby Kaltovar » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:41 am

No because the human brain isn't fully developed until your mid 20s. You can't really make an informed decision about the rest of your life when part of your brain is missing.
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:46 am

minimum age should be 25
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Postby Heloin » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:52 am

Free booze for every body.

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Postby Kaltovar » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:54 am

The Foxes Swamp wrote:minimum age should be 25


Agreed for the brain growth reasons I stated above.

Except: I think we should allow kids to drink on special holidays, like in parts of Europe. It's a fun cultural thing.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:59 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:In the UK, it is :

  • 16 if it’s a half pint with a meal
  • 18 to get boozed at a pub
  • 25 to buy at most shops

Yeah that's wrong. But Free Joy beat me to it. 25 isn't the legal age, it's just to provide a buffer, as often it is hard (if not impossible) to tell if someone looks precisely 18, so the "Think 25" policy widens the net a bit to make it easier for shop workers to challenge people about it.
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Postby Skyhooked » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:02 am

Vivolkha wrote:Alcohol is a literal poison and, much like tobacco or quite frankly any other drug, should be banned. If they get their hands on it anyway they are risking (hopefully serious) legal retribution, and just "hey, you'll get it anyway so it's fine!" doesn't entitle you to hurt others while you are high (if you hurt yourself for being irresponsible who cares - but don't expect me to pay for this healthcare).


Don Al Capone loved that post. That's the most awesome and cool idea I've ever heared! Let us go ahead and ban the booze and cigs! May mafia run the show in the country! And if ya' agree to hold the prohibition for longer, they might help ya' to win next elections. Have a critic? Well... now he is silent as a fish. A candidate somehow gained more votes? Oh dear! Why did he commit suicide so suddenly?!

Who cares if someone tries to make his own booze and poisons himself to death with it? Or if his distiller explodes into thousands of pieces, like good ol' frag grenade! Or if someone has the infamous delirium tremens from withdrawal, and he can't get the booze he really needs, and becasue of that he goes total loco! That's taxpayer's money after all! And we all know, that taxpayer's money is better spent on more cops rather than doctors.
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Postby Friently » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:03 am

No minimum age. Children WILL get their hands on it no matter what your age restriction is. So at least let them do it legally, safely and under some kind of supervision or smt. I've seen someone here suggest 25 as a limit like what are you possibly thinking.

YOU. CAN. NOT. STOP. THEM. FROM. GETTING. IT. that is the factual truth. So, make sure they learn to do it responsibly. The more you screech that they can't do it, the more they will want to do it. To the point where they will drink as much as possible just because you don't want them to.

Its basic human behaviour and the drinking age only makes it worse. During my post-exam school ball a couple of people i knew had taken flasks with wodka with them, not because they necessarily wanted to drink, but because the school strictly forbade alcohol. So just as a middle finger action they gave as much to as many that asked for it.
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Postby Kaltovar » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:05 am

Friently wrote:No minimum age. Children WILL get their hands on it no matter what your age restriction is. So at least let them do it legally, safely and under some kind of supervision or smt. I've seen someone here suggest 25 as a limit like what are you possibly thinking.

YOU. CAN. NOT. STOP. THEM. FROM. GETTING. IT. that is the factual truth. So, make sure they learn to do it responsibly. The more you screech that they can't do it, the more they will want to do it. To the point where they will drink as much as possible just because you don't want them to.

Its basic human behaviour and the drinking age only makes it worse. During my post-exam school ball a couple of people i knew had taken flasks with wodka with them, not because they necessarily wanted to drink, but because the school strictly forbade alcohol. So just as a middle finger action they gave as much to as many that asked for it.


The only one screeching here is you, with your all-caps.

The idea isn't to stop really determined people from getting it, just reduce the number of people who do. Nobody thinks it can be totally prevented.

Edit: For that matter, the penalty shouldn't be that harsh either, precisely because it's not a very egregious crime and is part of human nature. Murder and rape are also part of human nature, and we've good reasons to keep them illegal too.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:13 am

Skyhooked wrote:
Vivolkha wrote:Alcohol is a literal poison and, much like tobacco or quite frankly any other drug, should be banned. If they get their hands on it anyway they are risking (hopefully serious) legal retribution, and just "hey, you'll get it anyway so it's fine!" doesn't entitle you to hurt others while you are high (if you hurt yourself for being irresponsible who cares - but don't expect me to pay for this healthcare).


Don Al Capone loved that post. That's the most awesome and cool idea I've ever heared! Let us go ahead and ban the booze and cigs! May mafia run the show in the country! And if ya' agree to hold the prohibition for longer, they might help ya' to win next elections. Have a critic? Well... now he is silent as a fish. A candidate somehow gained more votes? Oh dear! Why did he commit suicide so suddenly?!

Who cares if someone tries to make his own booze and poisons himself to death with it? Or if his distiller explodes into thousands of pieces, like good ol' frag grenade! Or if someone has the infamous delirium tremens from withdrawal, and he can't get the booze he really needs, and becasue of that he goes total loco! That's taxpayer's money after all! And we all know, that taxpayer's money is better spent on more cops rather than doctors.

*Laughs in molasses*
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:23 am

I think 16 for beer and 18 for liquor like Germany has is reasonable. An underage person possessing alcohol shouldn't be a crime, although I do think it would be good to regulate the selling side, so that stores aren't selling alcohol to kids.
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Postby Lillorainen » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:30 am

Skyhooked wrote:
Vivolkha wrote:Alcohol is a literal poison and, much like tobacco or quite frankly any other drug, should be banned. If they get their hands on it anyway they are risking (hopefully serious) legal retribution, and just "hey, you'll get it anyway so it's fine!" doesn't entitle you to hurt others while you are high (if you hurt yourself for being irresponsible who cares - but don't expect me to pay for this healthcare).


Don Al Capone loved that post. That's the most awesome and cool idea I've ever heared! Let us go ahead and ban the booze and cigs! May mafia run the show in the country! And if ya' agree to hold the prohibition for longer, they might help ya' to win next elections. Have a critic? Well... now he is silent as a fish. A candidate somehow gained more votes? Oh dear! Why did he commit suicide so suddenly?!

Who cares if someone tries to make his own booze and poisons himself to death with it? Or if his distiller explodes into thousands of pieces, like good ol' frag grenade! Or if someone has the infamous delirium tremens from withdrawal, and he can't get the booze he really needs, and becasue of that he goes total loco! That's taxpayer's money after all! And we all know, that taxpayer's money is better spent on more cops rather than doctors.

Sounds like an awesome place to live in! It never gets boring! Action, Jackson! ^^

Seriously, should this ever become a thing (I live in a country which has never tried prohibition), they can pry the booze and the cigs from my cold, dead hands.
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Postby Skyhooked » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:31 am

As for my opinion. Remove drinking age? Well, I don't exactly know, what this will cause, so for now, let's just reduce it to 16. For all and any booze, and remove punishment for underage person possession. No need to ruin young dude's life, okay? Let's be more compassionate and kind.

Just keep an eye on selling side.

If it works well, then one day, remove this completely, I tell ya'! Nanny state resrictions and regulations of every petty thingy munch taxpayer's money, that could have been spent on pleasures or finest universal healthcare for all and everyone, just like in revelation 21.6 "I am alpha and Omega." (Okay, okay! I admit, I heared in in Fallout 3. I played TTW mod for New Vegas recently, but let's not get carried away.) Whichever you prefere.
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:37 am

Lillorainen wrote:
Skyhooked wrote:
Don Al Capone loved that post. That's the most awesome and cool idea I've ever heared! Let us go ahead and ban the booze and cigs! May mafia run the show in the country! And if ya' agree to hold the prohibition for longer, they might help ya' to win next elections. Have a critic? Well... now he is silent as a fish. A candidate somehow gained more votes? Oh dear! Why did he commit suicide so suddenly?!

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Sounds like an awesome place to live in! It never gets boring! Action, Jackson! ^^

Seriously, should this ever become a thing (I live in a country which has never tried prohibition), they can pry the booze and the cigs from my cold, dead hands.


Booze prohibition will probably never again occur outside of the Islamic world, though tobacco/nicotine might be a different story. Anti-nicotine extremists never stop, they're committed to a fanatical crusade.

But I too say they can pry my vape out of my cold dead hands.
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Postby Skyhooked » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:40 am

Page wrote:Booze prohibition will probably never again occur outside of the Islamic world, though tobacco/nicotine might be a different story. Anti-nicotine extremists never stop, they're committed to a fanatical crusade.

But I too say they can pry my vape out of my cold dead hands.


Don't ya' worry too much. There are corporate lobyists in the government, who won't just let them do that. (Even broken clock two times a day shows a right time, that's opinion on lobyists.)
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:41 am

Skyhooked wrote:As for my opinion. Remove drinking age? Well, I don't exactly know, what this will cause, so for now, let's just reduce it to 16. For all and any booze, and remove punishment for underage person possession. No need to ruin young dude's life, okay? Let's be more compassionate and kind.



I agree. If an adolescent is drinking behind the school or whatever, then confiscate the booze and make sure their parents talk to them about it, but putting kids through the criminal justice system over alcohol possession is insane.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:53 am

I think it should be up to parents whether they let their kid have a drink or not. The Italians do that and Italians are overall pretty well rounded people, so clearly this wouldn't harm a country

The government has more important issues to deal with such as stopping violent crime, fixing the roads and defending our country from terrorists. We really gotta get the government out of everyone's daily lives
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:55 am

Page wrote:
Skyhooked wrote:As for my opinion. Remove drinking age? Well, I don't exactly know, what this will cause, so for now, let's just reduce it to 16. For all and any booze, and remove punishment for underage person possession. No need to ruin young dude's life, okay? Let's be more compassionate and kind.



I agree. If an adolescent is drinking behind the school or whatever, then confiscate the booze and make sure their parents talk to them about it, but putting kids through the criminal justice system over alcohol possession is insane.


I hate these minor in possession laws. Like what's the idea? "Oh alcohol will ruin your life so we're gonna ruin your life as punishment for you trying to ruin yours." My city has been having a surge in violent crime, I bet those police resources would be better allocated toward stopping gang violence than confiscating booze from teens
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:58 am

Friently wrote:No minimum age. Children WILL get their hands on it no matter what your age restriction is. So at least let them do it legally, safely and under some kind of supervision or smt. I've seen someone here suggest 25 as a limit like what are you possibly thinking.

YOU. CAN. NOT. STOP. THEM. FROM. GETTING. IT. that is the factual truth. So, make sure they learn to do it responsibly. The more you screech that they can't do it, the more they will want to do it. To the point where they will drink as much as possible just because you don't want them to.

Its basic human behaviour and the drinking age only makes it worse. During my post-exam school ball a couple of people i knew had taken flasks with wodka with them, not because they necessarily wanted to drink, but because the school strictly forbade alcohol. So just as a middle finger action they gave as much to as many that asked for it.


Seems like people never learn this truth never told. Prohibition failed. The war on drugs failed. Abstinence only education failed. Gun control failed down in venezuela. The bans on abortions before row vs wade failed to actually stop abortion. When people really wanna do something, you can't stop them. People can't just let kids be kids anymore, like seriously who hasn't smoked weed or drank some liquor as a teen?
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Postby Drongonia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:59 am

Personally I think there should be a minimum age of:

- 18 for purchase
- 16 for consumption at a bar or other public place with a parent/caregiver
- 12 for consumption with parental/caregiver say-so

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:00 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:In the UK, it is :

  • 16 if it’s a half pint with a meal
  • 18 to get boozed at a pub
  • 25 to buy at most shops

Which is honestly quite reasonable.

You could also go down the Italian route and give kids wine to drink at dinner.

We need to lower the age of consumption of alcohol so that children can be better supervised if they drink too much. That way they can know their limits in a safe environment
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:02 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:In the UK, it is :

  • 16 if it’s a half pint with a meal
  • 18 to get boozed at a pub
  • 25 to buy at most shops

Which is honestly quite reasonable.

You could also go down the Italian route and give kids wine to drink at dinner.

We need to lower the age of consumption of alcohol so that children can be better supervised if they drink too much. That way they can know their limits in a safe environment


We probably won't though because here in america, we like to do things in the most ineffective way possible
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:04 am

It is a beverage, so I am all for eliminating minimum age requirements, or at least lowering them.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:06 am

Consider this stupid logic right here. You gotta be 21 to drink but 18 to join the military. That's right, the government has decided that it is dangerous for you to consume alcohol before 21, but A-ok to potentially end up on a battlefield getting fired upon by ISIS. You can't drink a beverage before 21 but you can give your life for america. What kind of logic is that?
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Postby Vivolkha » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:07 am

Skyhooked wrote:
Vivolkha wrote:Alcohol is a literal poison and, much like tobacco or quite frankly any other drug, should be banned. If they get their hands on it anyway they are risking (hopefully serious) legal retribution, and just "hey, you'll get it anyway so it's fine!" doesn't entitle you to hurt others while you are high (if you hurt yourself for being irresponsible who cares - but don't expect me to pay for this healthcare).


Don Al Capone loved that post. That's the most awesome and cool idea I've ever heared! Let us go ahead and ban the booze and cigs! May mafia run the show in the country! And if ya' agree to hold the prohibition for longer, they might help ya' to win next elections. Have a critic? Well... now he is silent as a fish. A candidate somehow gained more votes? Oh dear! Why did he commit suicide so suddenly?!

Who cares if someone tries to make his own booze and poisons himself to death with it? Or if his distiller explodes into thousands of pieces, like good ol' frag grenade! Or if someone has the infamous delirium tremens from withdrawal, and he can't get the booze he really needs, and becasue of that he goes total loco! That's taxpayer's money after all! And we all know, that taxpayer's money is better spent on more cops rather than doctors.

I'll agree to disagree with you. I know I will be blasted for my unpopular opinions in this thread but honestly I don't care if the post is as funny (unironically) as yours.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:11 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Consider this stupid logic right here. You gotta be 21 to drink but 18 to join the military. That's right, the government has decided that it is dangerous for you to consume alcohol before 21, but A-ok to potentially end up on a battlefield getting fired upon by ISIS. You can't drink a beverage before 21 but you can give your life for america. What kind of logic is that?

No logic there.

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