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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:09 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Galloism wrote:You’re welcome to present your educational degree in interpersonal relationships, or 5+ years of relevant experience working in the field of relationship counseling our equivalent to demonstrate your education.


A degree in interpersonal relationships doesn't exist. Relevant experience would also render yourself out of the conversation as well, because you're not a relationship counselor.

Otherwise, I just can’t take you seriously on the subject with your complete lack of education, and if the world were just, you’d be barred from speaking on the subject.


I do not have a lack of education, only opinions you dislike.

I'm still waiting for proof of this education.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
A degree in interpersonal relationships doesn't exist. Relevant experience would also render yourself out of the conversation as well, because you're not a relationship counselor.



I do not have a lack of education, only opinions you dislike.

I'm still waiting for proof of this education.


With all his talk about how the uneducated and uninformed shouldn't be allowed to express opinions, I'd expect he'd have like a PhD or something
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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:16 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Galloism wrote:I'm still waiting for proof of this education.


With all his talk about how the uneducated and uninformed shouldn't be allowed to express opinions, I'd expect he'd have like a PhD or something

The idea that you have to have a degree on a topic to speak on it, or even have useful insights is more than a little ridiculous.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:18 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
With all his talk about how the uneducated and uninformed shouldn't be allowed to express opinions, I'd expect he'd have like a PhD or something

The idea that you have to have a degree on a topic to speak on it, or even have useful insights is more than a little ridiculous.

I just want people to be held to their own standards.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:20 pm

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Cappuccina wrote:The idea that you have to have a degree on a topic to speak on it, or even have useful insights is more than a little ridiculous.

I just want people to be held to their own standards.

I can feel the heat from that burn from here.
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Postby Purgatio » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:20 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
With all his talk about how the uneducated and uninformed shouldn't be allowed to express opinions, I'd expect he'd have like a PhD or something

The idea that you have to have a degree on a topic to speak on it, or even have useful insights is more than a little ridiculous.


But he doesn't even follow it, I have a law degree and I'm getting an additional graduate law degree on top of that and he still felt the need to lecture me on the procedure and rules regarding cross-examination in rape trials in this thread he started a few years back (https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=35637754#p35637754)

So ridiculous or not, he doesn't appear to adhere to his own rule since, as far as I'm aware, he doesn't have a law degree.
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Postby American Princedoms » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:21 pm

Unless we're talking about providing testimony in a court, the answer is unequivocally yes.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:57 pm

Yes, everyone has the right to express their own opinion.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:59 pm

Big Jim P wrote:Yes, everyone has the right to express their own opinion.

Within reason. You can’t say that it’s your opinion that the president needs to get shot dead and expect to get away with it. For example going on TV with a severed head of trump isn’t an opinion
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Yes, everyone has the right to express their own opinion.

Within reason. You can’t say that it’s your opinion that the president needs to get shot dead and expect to get away with it. For example going on TV with a severed head of trump isn’t an opinion


Plenty express exactly that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:04 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Within reason. You can’t say that it’s your opinion that the president needs to get shot dead and expect to get away with it. For example going on TV with a severed head of trump isn’t an opinion


Plenty express exactly that.

And they get visits from the men in black. What I’m saying is that just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should and doesn’t mean there won’t be repercussions
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Plenty express exactly that.

And they get visits from the men in black. What I’m saying is that just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should and doesn’t mean there won’t be repercussions


Neither of which alters the right to express them.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:45 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Of course you do.

You just don't have a right of being protected from any and all consequences of saying that opinion.

Call it the Asshole Uncle (Or Aunt/insert disagreeable-relative-here) principle.

Edit: Or call it the Troll principle, i.e. you may express your opinion here, but I may just ban you if it runs afoul of the rules. :p

Then it's North Korean. You can say that Kim sucks. Yet Kim can execute you after that... I mean, isn't execution a permanent ban from the world?

That's just seriously out of left-field.
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Postby Grand Proudhonia » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:31 am

Generally speaking, yes... however societal, not governmental, consequences should exist
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Postby Ginicun » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:31 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:No, that's how you get Twitter.

Twitters just a example of a shitty community, my guy.

in my opinion, **YES.**
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:31 pm

Yes, it’s just that your opinion is not above criticism.
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