Michigan City Council Candidate: Keep Community white

[Purgatio]

In much of human history, our societies were monoracial and monoethnic, that's been the natural way of human association for centuries, and even today we have societies like South Korea, Taiwan and Japan which are more than 95% one ethnicity, why would you want to upset the social harmony so carefully nurtured and cultivated by such people?

First off Japan doesn't want anyone who isn't Japanese moving in in large number. That isn't racial as much as ethnocentric. Second, let's see how mad you act when the population keeps declining in east Asia and without immigrants to fill the void, the countries simply vanish

Better a declining population than one rife with crime and violence

[Purgatio]

In much of human history, our societies were monoracial and monoethnic, that's been the natural way of human association for centuries, and even today we have societies like South Korea, Taiwan and Japan which are more than 95% one ethnicity, why would you want to upset the social harmony so carefully nurtured and cultivated by such people?

What makes you think the social harmony is that fucking fragile?

Like, the four studies I cited earlier that no one seems to be addressing

[Necroghastia]

I still wanna know why if we're restricting people to only marrying other people based on some arbitrary common ancestor, why we shouldn't just legislate incest. I mean, you're definitely gonna make a homogeneous society that way!

Dude don't be gross. This is like saying "what's your objection to me marrying a five-year-old, if you want a minimum age for marriage why don't you go all the way and make the minimum age 100?"

It's just slippery slope absurdism taken to an extreme level.

You're the one glorifying common ancestry, I'm just pointing out how you can make your ethnic purity dreams come true.

[Purgatio]

Dude don't be gross. This is like saying "what's your objection to me marrying a five-year-old, if you want a minimum age for marriage why don't you go all the way and make the minimum age 100?"

It's just slippery slope absurdism taken to an extreme level.

You're the one glorifying common ancestry, I'm just pointing out how you can make your ethnic purity dreams come true.

But I'm not promoting sex within the family, I'm promoting the preservation of a race and an ethnicity by restricting procreation to within that group. You're conflating one with the other.

[Rojava Free State]

First off Japan doesn't want anyone who isn't Japanese moving in in large number. That isn't racial as much as ethnocentric. Second, let's see how mad you act when the population keeps declining in east Asia and without immigrants to fill the void, the countries simply vanish

Better a declining population than one rife with crime and violence

Lmao cause black and brown people are just naturally horrible and violent, unlike east asians. No way we could be civilized.

[Estanglia]

The fact that their goals will lead to the displacement of people who are hated for reasons that are complete and utter bullshit?

You can go live somewhere else with your own people or a diverse community of people that don't mind diversity

No.

If some racist fuckers want to make the area I live in a homogenous area, and if that would result in my displacement, I am gonna fight that to the fucking end.

I'm not gonna get kicked out of my area because some people can't stand the sight of other races.

[Purgatio]

In much of human history, our societies were monoracial and monoethnic, that's been the natural way of human association for centuries, and even today we have societies like South Korea, Taiwan and Japan which are more than 95% one ethnicity, why would you want to upset the social harmony so carefully nurtured and cultivated by such people?

What makes you think the social harmony is that fucking fragile?

Here, for your benefit:

.....so you WANT to promote weakness and stagnation?

We've had this conversion before, I want social cohesion and higher community trust and there are myriad of studies supporting the view that social capital in a community falls as diversity increases. Here's just two of them

Costa and Kahn study of 2003 (http://web.mit.edu/costa/www/costa.kahn.1.4pdf.pdf), the Alesina and Ferrea study of 2005 (https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/002205105774431243) and Putnam's study of 2007 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x) and the Laurence study of 2009 (https://academic.oup.com/esr/article-abstract/27/1/70/448535?redirectedFrom=fulltext)

[Purgatio]

Better a declining population than one rife with crime and violence

Lmao cause black and brown people are just naturally horrible and violent, unlike east asians. No way we could be civilized.

I didn't say that, I'm basing this off the fact that multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots are a thing, I'm not blaming or pointing the finger at any particular racial or ethnic group

[Purgatio]

You can go live somewhere else with your own people or a diverse community of people that don't mind diversity

No.

If some racist fuckers want to make the area I live in a homogenous area, and if that would result in my displacement, I am gonna fight that to the fucking end.

I'm not gonna get kicked out of my area because some people can't stand the sight of other races.

It's not just about that, its the fact that homogenous communities are more socially harmonious and have higher community trust and cohesion, and some people would prefer to live in such a neighbourhood, its not hatred or prejudice to say you'd rather live with your own people any more than it is hatred of other women to say you'd rather live with your mother than another person's mother

[Rojava Free State]

Lmao cause black and brown people are just naturally horrible and violent, unlike east asians. No way we could be civilized.

I didn't say that, I'm basing this off the fact that multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots are a thing, I'm not blaming or pointing the finger at any particular racial or ethnic group

I think you hype the importance of race way too much

[Necroghastia]

You're the one glorifying common ancestry, I'm just pointing out how you can make your ethnic purity dreams come true.

But I'm not promoting sex within the family, I'm promoting the preservation of a race and an ethnicity by restricting procreation to within that group. You're conflating one with the other.

A group... defined by a common ancestor. Sounds a lot like keeping it in the family to me.

[Purgatio]

I didn't say that, I'm basing this off the fact that multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots are a thing, I'm not blaming or pointing the finger at any particular racial or ethnic group

I think you hype the importance of race way too much

I really don't, you don't have a lot of multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or even the coastal cities in China. Can the same be said of the racially-diverse inner cities in America?

[Purgatio]

But I'm not promoting sex within the family, I'm promoting the preservation of a race and an ethnicity by restricting procreation to within that group. You're conflating one with the other.

A group... defined by a common ancestor. Sounds a lot like keeping it in the family to me.

There is such a thing as taking something too far you know. Having one ice cream is nice, having a thousand is unhealthy. That doesn't mean one ice cream is bad.

[Necroghastia]

I think you hype the importance of race way too much

I really don't, you don't have a lot of multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or even the coastal cities in China. Can the same be said of the racially-diverse inner cities in America?

Ignoring the history of discrimination which led to said conflict, I see. You realize that without that, you'd see more social cohesion, yes?

[Rojava Free State]

I think you hype the importance of race way too much

I really don't, you don't have a lot of multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or even the coastal cities in China. Can the same be said of the racially-diverse inner cities in America?

You just have riots based on other issues instead. Great.

Btw it's been a long time since we had a race riot in my area and it's diverse as hell here. I thought we're supposed to be going up in flames

[Estanglia]

No.

If some racist fuckers want to make the area I live in a homogenous area, and if that would result in my displacement, I am gonna fight that to the fucking end.

I'm not gonna get kicked out of my area because some people can't stand the sight of other races.

It's not just about that, its the fact that homogenous communities are more socially harmonious and have higher community trust and cohesion,

And?

That still doesn't justify racist fuckers wanting other races out of their neighbourhood.

and some people would prefer to live in such a neighbourhood, its not hatred or prejudice to say you'd rather live with your own people any more than it is hatred of other women to say you'd rather live with your mother than another person's mother

Then they can go find an area where they're the majority and leave the rest of us who are fine with living with other races alone.

If you want something in an area, either convince everyone else to make it or go find an area where that something exists. Don't force everyone else to comply with your desires.

[Necroghastia]

A group... defined by a common ancestor. Sounds a lot like keeping it in the family to me.

There is such a thing as taking something too far you know. Having one ice cream is nice, having a thousand is unhealthy. That doesn't mean one ice cream is bad.

Who's to say how far back is good and proper? Get too far out and there's no telling what sort of taint might have entered the bloodstream, y'know.

[Purgatio]

I really don't, you don't have a lot of multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or even the coastal cities in China. Can the same be said of the racially-diverse inner cities in America?

Ignoring the history of discrimination which led to said conflict, I see. You realize that without that, you'd see more social cohesion, yes?

And where did that discrimination come from? Did people randomly wake up one day and decide they didn't like other races? No, it's part of our racially tribalistic instincts to prefer people more genetically and biologically similar to ourselves

[Purgatio]

It's not just about that, its the fact that homogenous communities are more socially harmonious and have higher community trust and cohesion,

And?

That still doesn't justify racist fuckers wanting other races out of their neighbourhood.

and some people would prefer to live in such a neighbourhood, its not hatred or prejudice to say you'd rather live with your own people any more than it is hatred of other women to say you'd rather live with your mother than another person's mother

Then they can go find an area where they're the majority and leave the rest of us who are fine with living with other races alone.

If you want something in an area, either convince everyone else to make it or go find an area where that something exists. Don't force everyone else to comply with your desires.

As far as I'm aware this woman is just arguing that an existing city in Michigan be kept racially homogenous. And I've never advocated the displacement or eviction of anyone, I want societies that are largely ethnically-homogenous to begin with to maintain race-based and ethnicity-based immigration policies to that effect. That doesn't harm anyone nor does it encroach on existing communities. I'm not 'forcing everyone else to comply with my desires'.

[The Two Jerseys]

Is this really newsworthy? I've seen literal Nazi Party candidates on the ballot before and nobody cared.

[Purgatio]

I really don't, you don't have a lot of multi-racial and multi-ethnic riots in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or even the coastal cities in China. Can the same be said of the racially-diverse inner cities in America?

You just have riots based on other issues instead. Great.

Btw it's been a long time since we had a race riot in my area and it's diverse as hell here. I thought we're supposed to be going up in flames

But not riots based on race or ethnicity. Riots based on other dividing lines would still exist, but you wouldn't have the racial and ethnic riots, hence, less violence.

[Necroghastia]

Ignoring the history of discrimination which led to said conflict, I see. You realize that without that, you'd see more social cohesion, yes?

And where did that discrimination come from? Did people randomly wake up one day and decide they didn't like other races? No, it's part of our racially tribalistic instincts to prefer people more genetically and biologically similar to ourselves

It came from assholes deciding that they were better than others for dumb reasons. There's no reason to take such attitudes seriously.

[US-SSR]

Greenland.

Yeah.

US-SSR assumes that everything is a consequence of muh racism and shit but in reality it is a lot more likely to be a consequence of the location being too remote, too poor, too dangerous or too uninteresting.

US-SSR assumes that there's probably more than one old white woman running around provincial, insular, white-bread towns like the one in question thinking that if one nonwhite family moves in the entire world will somehow turn to shit overnight, and that pointing out that there's at least one of them there is the easy way out for Northern liberals who don't realize they're South of the Mason-Dixon Line. If you look around your neighborhood, school or workplace and don't see a lot of people who don't look exactly like you do you might could start asking yourself why, and what might be done to change that.

[Rojava Free State]

Yeah.

US-SSR assumes that everything is a consequence of muh racism and shit but in reality it is a lot more likely to be a consequence of the location being too remote, too poor, too dangerous or too uninteresting.

US-SSR assumes that there's probably more than one old white woman running around provincial, insular, white-bread towns like the one in question thinking that if one nonwhite family moves in the entire world will somehow turn to shit overnight, and that pointing out that there's at least one of them there is the easy way out for Northern liberals who don't realize they're South of the Mason-Dixon Line. If you look around your neighborhood, school or workplace and don't see a lot of people who don't look exactly like you do you might could start asking yourself why, and what might be done to change that.

I believe in allowing anyone to live where they want. No restrictions unless the place in question is a military base or toxic waste dump

[Purgatio]

And where did that discrimination come from? Did people randomly wake up one day and decide they didn't like other races? No, it's part of our racially tribalistic instincts to prefer people more genetically and biologically similar to ourselves

It came from assholes deciding that they were better than others for dumb reasons. There's no reason to take such attitudes seriously.

If those attitudes are widespread its time to start asking why. Its always the fantasy of liberals that if only people were 'raised right' suddenly racial tribalism would go away, but its persistence suggests something innate and inherent.