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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:05 pm

Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us.


What is with you and Singapore?


I wish I knew. And for someone who keeps talking about my home country he seems to know not very much about it because he goes into long spiels describing a country that sounds nothing like the one I live in.

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Ordenstaat Burgundy
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Postby Ordenstaat Burgundy » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:08 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
What is with you and Singapore?


I wish I knew. And for someone who keeps talking about my home country he seems to know not very much about it because he goes into long spiels describing a country that sounds nothing like the one I live in.


I can't speak for Singapore from experience as I've never been there, but from what I've read it sounds nothing like how he's described it. Plus isn't the proper term for a resident of the city supposed to be Singaporean? Anyways I best be departing....
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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:10 pm

Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
I wish I knew. And for someone who keeps talking about my home country he seems to know not very much about it because he goes into long spiels describing a country that sounds nothing like the one I live in.


I can't speak for Singapore from experience as I've never been there, but from what I've read it sounds nothing like how he's described it. Plus isn't the proper term for a resident of the city supposed to be Singaporean?


It is Singaporean yeah.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:10 pm

San Lumen wrote: “A husband and wife need to be the same race … That’s how it’s been [since] … God created the heaven and the earth. He created Adam and Eve at the same time.”


This raises so many questions.
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Neko-koku
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:10 pm

As I said before, collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us. Better yet, cut internet connection between CCAs and us. It is a bad idea to even let folks in CCA know too much about us so that they won't start an ideological war against us or something. CCAs are necessary because otherwise I think collectivists of all kinds will eventually kill us all. Let them all be in their little bubbles and we will be happier.
We are mutant Japanese kitty cats that have taken over a post-human world which was destroyed due to human hatred towards other humans.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:11 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
San Lumen wrote: “A husband and wife need to be the same race … That’s how it’s been [since] … God created the heaven and the earth. He created Adam and Eve at the same time.”


This raises so many questions.


Why don’t you respect religious freedom?
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Korladis
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Postby Korladis » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:11 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
San Lumen wrote: “A husband and wife need to be the same race … That’s how it’s been [since] … God created the heaven and the earth. He created Adam and Eve at the same time.”


This raises so many questions.


Good luck getting a coherent answer from him. I've been trying to get one for at least the past hour and he has yet to give one.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:11 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
What is with you and Singapore?

I think the definition of Singapore in my context is already clear. It is a nice city I have been to.

And what political label do you identify as? Some of your ideas remind me of the neoreactionary movement.
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Postby Korladis » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:12 pm

Neko-koku wrote:As I said before, collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us. Better yet, cut internet connection between CCAs and us. It is a bad idea to even let folks in CCA know too much about us so that they won't start an ideological war against us or something. CCAs are necessary because otherwise I think collectivists of all kinds will eventually kill us all. Let them all be in their little bubbles and we will be happier.


Excuse me, but what?

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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:12 pm

Neko-koku wrote:As I said before, collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us. Better yet, cut internet connection between CCAs and us. It is a bad idea to even let folks in CCA know too much about us so that they won't start an ideological war against us or something. CCAs are necessary because otherwise I think collectivists of all kinds will eventually kill us all. Let them all be in their little bubbles and we will be happier.


I genuinely wish people would stop characterising my home country as some kind of multiracial utopia. It really isn't. The races here keep to ourselves quite a lot, it's not some diverse paradise where races hold hands and become best friends and interact on a daily basis.

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Neko-koku
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:14 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:I think the definition of Singapore in my context is already clear. It is a nice city I have been to.

And what political label do you identify as? You ideas remind me of the neoreactionary movement.

Well I'm definitely not an NRx member.

I basically think like someone trying to defend civilization from barbarians. To me there isn't that much difference between different kinds of collectivists. Since they are more impulsive and fertile than us and are generally unwilling to learn about truth they can't be reasoned with. We just need to keep them in their bubbles and give them something to do other than hurting us.
We are mutant Japanese kitty cats that have taken over a post-human world which was destroyed due to human hatred towards other humans.

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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:15 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:I think the definition of Singapore in my context is already clear. It is a nice city I have been to.

And what political label do you identify as? Some of your ideas remind me of the neoreactionary movement.


Dude he's definitely not neo-reactionary, if anything he's an outright radical anarchist more likely

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Corunia and Mironor
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Postby Corunia and Mironor » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:15 pm

I can't believe this is happening in my own state. Thankfully I doubt she'll get too many votes
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:16 pm

Purgatio wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:And what political label do you identify as? Some of your ideas remind me of the neoreactionary movement.


Dude he's definitely not neo-reactionary, if anything he's an outright radical anarchist more likely

To you. You have a really low bar for "anarchism" even though I'm pretty much ancap.
We are mutant Japanese kitty cats that have taken over a post-human world which was destroyed due to human hatred towards other humans.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:17 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:And what political label do you identify as? You ideas remind me of the neoreactionary movement.

Well I'm definitely not an NRx member.

I basically think like someone trying to defend civilization from barbarians. To me there isn't that much difference between different kinds of collectivists. Since they are more impulsive and fertile than us and are generally unwilling to learn about truth they can't be reasoned with. We just need to keep them in their bubbles and give them something to do other than hurting us.

Understood. Btw, I never accused you of actually being NRx. I meant to say that some of your ideas that you expressed earlier simply reminded me of them.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:17 pm

Corunia and Mironor wrote:I can't believe this is happening in my own state. Thankfully I doubt she'll get too many votes

How anyone can defend her comments is beyond me

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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:18 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
What is with you and Singapore?

I think the definition of Singapore in my context is already clear. It is a nice city I have been to.


Singapore? Ok. Don’t want to dig through the thread. What are you classifying it as? I have actually been there so I am curious.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:19 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Dude he's definitely not neo-reactionary, if anything he's an outright radical anarchist more likely

To you. You have a really low bar for "anarchism" even though I'm pretty much ancap.


And likewise you have a super low bar for who is a "collectivist". Basically anyone who thinks being law-abiding is good most of the time is a "collectivist" in your view, hence why you're convinced there are so many collectivists out there, because your definition of one is hilariously-broad to include almost anyone and everyone.

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Neko-koku
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:20 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Well I'm definitely not an NRx member.

I basically think like someone trying to defend civilization from barbarians. To me there isn't that much difference between different kinds of collectivists. Since they are more impulsive and fertile than us and are generally unwilling to learn about truth they can't be reasoned with. We just need to keep them in their bubbles and give them something to do other than hurting us.

Understood. Btw, I never accused you of actually being NRx. I meant to say that some of your ideas that you expressed earlier simply reminded me of them.

Both all kinds of ethnonat (including ethnonats in China) and Islamism scare me. Let's just give them some place away from us and let them do something that isn't hurting us. That's it. Authoritarians gonna authoritarian. Let them do it AWAY FROM us so that we aren't affected.

That's just like cats and dogs. Dogs gonna bark. Dogs gonna bite. So let dogs go to their kennels away from kitty areas so that we cats don't have to be affected by them.
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Neko-koku
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Postby Neko-koku » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:21 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:To you. You have a really low bar for "anarchism" even though I'm pretty much ancap.


And likewise you have a super low bar for who is a "collectivist". Basically anyone who thinks being law-abiding is good most of the time is a "collectivist" in your view, hence why you're convinced there are so many collectivists out there, because your definition of one is hilariously-broad to include almost anyone and everyone.

Hell no. Being law-abiding most of the time is usually good. However obeying laws of a totalitarian regime most of the time isn't good. I'm not an illegalist.

Have you realized that in the HK thread pretty much everyone other than you and IM agree with me that PRC laws shouldn't always be obeyed not because illegality rocks but because PRC sucks?
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:21 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Understood. Btw, I never accused you of actually being NRx. I meant to say that some of your ideas that you expressed earlier simply reminded me of them.

Both all kinds of ethnonat (including ethnonats in China) and Islamism scare me. Let's just give them some place away from us and let them do something that isn't hurting us. That's it. Authoritarians gonna authoritarian. Let them do it AWAY FROM us so that we aren't affected.

Emphasis mine. Agreed.

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Corunia and Mironor
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Postby Corunia and Mironor » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:22 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corunia and Mironor wrote:I can't believe this is happening in my own state. Thankfully I doubt she'll get too many votes

How anyone can defend her comments is beyond me

Agreed, her comments are backwards and racist and don't deserve a place in the overton window
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Purgatio
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Postby Purgatio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:24 pm

Neko-koku wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Understood. Btw, I never accused you of actually being NRx. I meant to say that some of your ideas that you expressed earlier simply reminded me of them.

Both all kinds of ethnonat (including ethnonats in China) and Islamism scare me. Let's just give them some place away from us and let them do something that isn't hurting us. That's it. Authoritarians gonna authoritarian. Let them do it AWAY FROM us so that we aren't affected.

That's just like cats and dogs. Dogs gonna bark. Dogs gonna bite. So let dogs go to their kennels away from kitty areas so that we cats don't have to be affected by them.


Jesus what is it with you and cats?

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Volkish Amerika
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Postby Volkish Amerika » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:26 pm

Corunia and Mironor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How anyone can defend her comments is beyond me

Agreed, her comments are backwards and racist and don't deserve a place in the overton window


She's entitled to her opinion as are you, even if you're both in the wrong on this particular matter.
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Corunia and Mironor
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Postby Corunia and Mironor » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:26 pm

Volkish Amerika wrote:
Corunia and Mironor wrote:Agreed, her comments are backwards and racist and don't deserve a place in the overton window


She's entitled to her opinion as are you, even if you're both in the wrong on this particular subject.

I never said she isn't, I just said people shouldn't take her opinion seriously
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