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[The Black Forrest]

If you didn't think other races were inferior then you wouldn't care if they moved into your area or married people of your race. People worry about blacks marrying whites cause of stupid shit like "Oh no our pure white genes are being degenerated by inferior blood!" Maybe I'm weird but I wake up in a town with many different kinds of people in it, and I don't feel remotely bothered. you could put me in a room full of black kids and I wouldn't feel out of the ordinary. I could be surrounded by Cambodian people and I wouldn't care.

The argument that opposing interracial marriage makes you racist literally makes no sense. Like, seriously, just work through it logically for a few seconds.

I'm told this woman is racist against, say, black people, because she wants white people to marry other white people (ie she doesn't want them marrying, say, a black person). Well, if that view makes her racist against black people...but, wait, she also wants black people to only marry other black people (ie she doesn't want them marrying non-blacks, like, say, white people), so by that same logic, she's also racist against white people. And she's also racist against Mexicans and Latinos and Asians and Native Americans, applying the same logic to all those cases.

It just makes no sense. Wanting people to marry members of their own race doesn't make you racist, and it doesn't mean you hate those races. There's no unequal treatment involved because its a worldview that believes each racial group should stick within their own people and community. You can disagree with her but I don't see any logical grounds for calling it racist.

Yes. Opposing interracial marriage is racist. It’s between the two people and none of anybody else’s fucking business.

[Purgatio]

The argument that opposing interracial marriage makes you racist literally makes no sense. Like, seriously, just work through it logically for a few seconds.

I'm told this woman is racist against, say, black people, because she wants white people to marry other white people (ie she doesn't want them marrying, say, a black person). Well, if that view makes her racist against black people...but, wait, she also wants black people to only marry other black people (ie she doesn't want them marrying non-blacks, like, say, white people), so by that same logic, she's also racist against white people. And she's also racist against Mexicans and Latinos and Asians and Native Americans, applying the same logic to all those cases.

It just makes no sense. Wanting people to marry members of their own race doesn't make you racist, and it doesn't mean you hate those races. There's no unequal treatment involved because its a worldview that believes each racial group should stick within their own people and community. You can disagree with her but I don't see any logical grounds for calling it racist.

Yes. Opposing interracial marriage is racist. It’s between the two people and none of anybody else’s fucking business.

What is your definition of racism? Prejudice against a particular race? Believing a race is inferior to another or less worthy of respect or equal rights? None of that is compromised by opposing interracial marriage. Interracial marriage is not based on a belief that any race is less worthy of dignity and respect than any other.

[Korladis]

I'm not forcing diversity on you, but rather telling you that you can force people to stay away from your community without being racist. I don't know how I can make that any clearer to you.

That is forcing diversity on me because it is precluding me from choosing to live in a homeland or neighbourhood of my own people and community. That's an option that is stripped from me without my consent. It's a type of human association that isn't an available option for me in your worldview. In my world, everyone of any race will have the freedom to choose to live in diverse neighbourhoods or neighbourhoods reserved for people like them alone. That's true equality and freedom of choice.

Then I'm sorry to tell you this, but you live in a fantasy world then. In the real world what you call "personal choice" is nothing more than a thin veneer to hide racist intentions. What you want is a world of walled off ethnic enclaves that discriminate against those who are not of your race, let alone those who are of mixed descent. Sorry, but there's no equality in such a world. Saying or thinking otherwise makes you little more than bigot, my friend.

[The Black Forrest]

Yes. Opposing interracial marriage is racist. It’s between the two people and none of anybody else’s fucking business.

What is your definition of racism? Prejudice against a particular race? Believing a race is inferior to another or less worthy of respect or equal rights? None of that is compromised by opposing interracial marriage. Interracial marriage is not based on a belief that any race is less worthy of dignity and respect than any other.

You might want to re-read your comment a few times and think about it.

Opposing it; is racism.

[Purgatio]

That is forcing diversity on me because it is precluding me from choosing to live in a homeland or neighbourhood of my own people and community. That's an option that is stripped from me without my consent. It's a type of human association that isn't an available option for me in your worldview. In my world, everyone of any race will have the freedom to choose to live in diverse neighbourhoods or neighbourhoods reserved for people like them alone. That's true equality and freedom of choice.

Then I'm sorry to tell you this, but you live in a fantasy world then. In the real world what you call "personal choice" is nothing more than a thin veneer to hide racist intentions. What you want is a world of walled off ethnic enclaves that discriminate against those who are not of your race, let alone those who are of mixed descent. Sorry, but there's no equality in such a world. Saying or thinking otherwise makes you little more than bigot, my friend.

Except that literally isn't what I want, people who want to live in diverse communities can keep on doing so, I have no intention of disrupting or breaking up those communities, but if I want to live in a neighbourhood with people like me, to associate with people like me, because I believe in the beauty of racial identity and the wider sense of community that comes from belong to a race and a people, why should I not have the right to build a neighbourhood on those principles with other like-minded individuals? Is that not the bedrock of personal choice and freedom of association? Especially if I'm not suggesting trampling on the rights of existing diverse communities?

[Purgatio]

What is your definition of racism? Prejudice against a particular race? Believing a race is inferior to another or less worthy of respect or equal rights? None of that is compromised by opposing interracial marriage. Interracial marriage is not based on a belief that any race is less worthy of dignity and respect than any other.

You might want to re-read your comment a few times and think about it.

Opposing it; is racism.

I did, and you still haven't demonstrated how on Earth wanting races to marry others of the same race is an opinion that regards a specific race as inferior to another

[Korladis]

Then I'm sorry to tell you this, but you live in a fantasy world then. In the real world what you call "personal choice" is nothing more than a thin veneer to hide racist intentions. What you want is a world of walled off ethnic enclaves that discriminate against those who are not of your race, let alone those who are of mixed descent. Sorry, but there's no equality in such a world. Saying or thinking otherwise makes you little more than bigot, my friend.

Except that literally isn't what I want, people who want to live in diverse communities can keep on doing so, I have no intention of disrupting or breaking up those communities, but if I want to live in a neighbourhood with people like me, to associate with people like me, because I believe in the beauty of racial identity and the wider sense of community that comes from belong to a race and a people, why should I not have the right to build a neighbourhood on those principles with other like-minded individuals? Is that not the bedrock of personal choice and freedom of association? Especially if I'm not suggesting trampling on the rights of existing diverse communities?

Reread what you have posted throughout this topic and then do a bit of research on apartheid/segregation. Once you are done with that, come back here and we will talk.

[The Black Forrest]

You might want to re-read your comment a few times and think about it.

Opposing it; is racism.

I did, and you still haven't demonstrated how on Earth wanting races to marry others of the same race is an opinion that regards a specific race as inferior to another

The problem is you are ignoring the fact it is. Why else should a mixed not be allowed to marry? You have an argument if say the black man was abusive. Saying it’s because he is black? Hate to tell you that is racism.

[Neko-koku]

Factions in this thread:

1. Collectivists - Tribalists

2. Collectivists - SJWs

3. Individualists who want to stop collectivism

4. Individualists who support 1 to establish their ethnostates so that we don't have to hear from or be affected by people in Faction 1 anymore (me)

So there is really only one difference between Faction 3 and Faction 4. Faction 3 is optimistic and believes that collectivistic mobs can be stopped globally and we will have a free and individualistic world. Faction 4 is pessimistic and believes that collectivistic mobs are fucking everywhere so we have to have containment zones so that we can be freed from them.

[Purgatio]

I did, and you still haven't demonstrated how on Earth wanting races to marry others of the same race is an opinion that regards a specific race as inferior to another

The problem is you are ignoring the fact it is. Why else should a mixed not be allowed to marry? You have an argument if say the black man was abusive. Saying it’s because he is black? Hate to tell you that is racism.

It literally isn't though. A worldview that opposes interracial marriage is one that imposes the same rule on all races equally, you may only marry within your race. Its the same rule for everyone. There's no discrimination. Racism would be, say, believing that its immoral for a black person to sleep with a white person but a white person is allowed to sleep with someone of any race, because that's blatantly holding races to different standards. But believing people of any race should marry within their own racial group doesn't hold someone to a different standard just because of the race they were born into, it holds everyone of any race to the same standard and the same rule.

[Korladis]

Factions in this thread:

1. Collectivists - Tribalists

2. Collectivists - SJWs

3. Individualists

4. Individualists who support 1 to establish their ethnostates so that we don't have to hear from or be affected by people in Faction 1 anymore (me)

Try again:

1. Sane people

2. Racists/Bigots

3. You

[Neko-koku]

Factions in this thread:

1. Collectivists - Tribalists

2. Collectivists - SJWs

3. Individualists

4. Individualists who support 1 to establish their ethnostates so that we don't have to hear from or be affected by people in Faction 1 anymore (me)

Try again:

1. Sane people

2. Racists/Bigots

3. You

You are a moralist.

[Pacomia]

Factions in this thread:

1. Collectivists - Tribalists

2. Collectivists - SJWs

3. Individualists

4. Individualists who support 1 to establish their ethnostates so that we don't have to hear from or be affected by people in Faction 1 anymore (me)

Try again:

1. Sane people

2. Racists/Bigots

3. You

I haven’t really been paying attention. There just aren’t fun threads anymore. I joined General during the height of NS Summer, and it’s less fun now.

[Korladis]

Try again:

1. Sane people

2. Racists/Bigots

3. You

You are a moralist.

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

[Neko-koku]

Ideally collectivism should be globally eliminated. However since it is fucking everywhere I think we first need a defensive strategy. Containment zones are good because they will of course not be the entire earth.

[Purgatio]

You are a moralist.

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

Yeah again its still not discrimination no matter how many times you assert it is. Everyone has the same rights, that's the opposite of discrimination.

[Neko-koku]

You are a moralist.

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

What do you propose should be done about fucking collectivists then? You know that they are ignorant, good at breeding and eager to kill. What's even worse is that they are a majority on this planet. We can't arrest them all. Right now all we can do is trying to keep them out of several particularly important areas such as big tech companies, Wall Street and Singapore.

[Neko-koku]

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

Yeah again its still not discrimination no matter how many times you assert it is. Everyone has the same rights, that's the opposite of discrimination.

Depends on whether you are a collectivist. Collectivists tend to forget about the difference between "rights" and "power".

[The Black Forrest]

The problem is you are ignoring the fact it is. Why else should a mixed not be allowed to marry? You have an argument if say the black man was abusive. Saying it’s because he is black? Hate to tell you that is racism.

It literally isn't though. A worldview that opposes interracial marriage is one that imposes the same rule on all races equally, you may only marry within your race. Its the same rule for everyone. There's no discrimination. Racism would be, say, believing that its immoral for a black person to sleep with a white person but a white person is allowed to sleep with someone of any sex, because that's blatantly holding races to different standards. But believing people of any race should marry within their own racial group doesn't hold someone to a different standard just because of the race they were born into, it holds everyone of any race to the same standard and the same rule.

You keep trying to spin it. It’s still racism. Seriously; you black man can’t marry the white woman and that is not holding a standard? Laughable.

They think it because the laws don’t allow them to implement their racist standards.

If you want to be racist? Embrace it; it’s funny listening to people want to hold racist views and not be judged.

Marriage is between the two people is none of your business and it’s none of that racists business.

[Korladis]

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

Yeah again its still not discrimination no matter how many times you assert it is. Everyone has the same rights, that's the opposite of discrimination.

Clearly you're not qualified to make that determination, especially not after all you have said in this thread man. Seriously....JFC.

[Necroghastia]

Why advocate it?

Because marriage is one of those subjects where everyone has their own idea of what they believe a 'good marriage' is like and its normal to advocate your opinion. You can take it on its face and agree or disagree. You clearly disagree, that's fine. You don't have to follow her advice.

Why advocate this in particular?

[Necroghastia]

No, I just believe in common fucking sense and not discriminating against people because of their race/religion.

Yeah again its still not discrimination no matter how many times you assert it is. Everyone has the same rights, that's the opposite of discrimination.

Everyone has the same rights because most people nowadays treat people like the thread topic like a laughingstock.

[Neko-koku]

Collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us. Better yet, cut internet connection between CCAs and us. It is a bad idea to even let folks in CCA know too much about us so that they won't start an ideological war or something.

CCAs are necessary because otherwise I think collectivists of all kinds will eventually kill us all.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

Collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us.

What is with you and Singapore?

[Neko-koku]

Collectivism of course needs to be contained. That's precisely why we need to have collectivism containment areas (also known as ethnostates)..let collectivists leave Singapores and be collectivistic in their own territories where they can't see us or impose their will on us.

What is with you and Singapore?

I think the definition of Singapore in my context is already clear. It is a nice city I have been to.