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by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:21 am
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:23 am
Neko-koku wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
Ostensibly an American is someone who is a citizen of the United States.
But from a cultural standpoint, what is an American? The people of this country have very little in common with each other, and what once considered to be the traditional American culture is now considered racist. So what cultures do Americans have? Some vague commitment to "freedom" or "diversity"? Those aren't cultures, those are ideologies. What do we have in common in terms of ethnicity, language, religion, and customs? These are things that define what a nation is. We can't even agree on what ours are, because there is no "we".
There is no American.
Singapores require having no shared culture at all while Japans require having shared ethnicities, languages, customs etc.
So basically the problem is whether America should be Japan or Singapore. Of course most people would vote for Japan. As I said before, Singapore is for very few people. Most people don't psychologically want Singaporization.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:25 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Singapores require having no shared culture at all while Japans require having shared ethnicities, languages, customs etc.
So basically the problem is whether America should be Japan or Singapore. Of course most people would vote for Japan. As I said before, Singapore is for very few people. Most people don't psychologically want Singaporization.
Also it would be impossible to make a continent-sized Singapore actually work.
by The Intergalactic Banking Guild » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:25 am
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:26 am
The Intergalactic Banking Guild wrote:Off topic—I know—but I was always under the assumption that the fact American “culture” is hard to define as America has always valued a rugged individualism over a encompassing culture.
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:27 am
Neko-koku wrote:
Of course because there aren't that many Singapore-minded people in the world. Singapores need to be independent city states, hopefully islands. They also need to be far away from any place Japans claim. Palau for example is a fairly good location for another Singapore.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:27 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Neko-koku wrote:Of course because there aren't that many Singapore-minded people in the world. Singapores need to be independent city states, hopefully islands. They also need to be far away from any place Japans claim. Palau for example is a fairly good location for another Singapore.
New York and San Francisco could be good candidates for Singapore-tier places.
by Estanglia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:28 am
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by Pacomia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:30 am
Neko-koku wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
New York and San Francisco could be good candidates for Singapore-tier places.
Yes. However They are currently little South Africas. Moreover these two cities are indefensible. Any mob or gang can probably ruin them.
Due to the problem of South Africanization I don't support establishing any Singapores in Continental United States. It is either Hawaii (too hot?) or Alaska (too cold?).
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:30 am
Pacomia wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Yes. However They are currently little South Africas. Moreover these two cities are indefensible. Any mob or gang can probably ruin them.
Due to the problem of South Africanization I don't support establishing any Singapores in Continental United States. It is either Hawaii (too hot?) or Alaska (too cold?).
Toronto?
by Saiwania » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:31 am
by Pacomia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:32 am
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:32 am
Neko-koku wrote:Due to the problem of South Africanization I don't support establishing any Singapores in Continental United States. It is either Hawaii (too hot?) or Alaska (too cold?).
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:34 am
Pacomia wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Yes. However They are currently little South Africas. Moreover these two cities are indefensible. Any mob or gang can probably ruin them.
Due to the problem of South Africanization I don't support establishing any Singapores in Continental United States. It is either Hawaii (too hot?) or Alaska (too cold?).
Toronto?
Pacomia wrote:I also think that Singapore and Japan aren’t the only options. The US isn’t an equal mix of cultures, but it sure isn’t culturally homogeneous either, and it’s doing fine.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:35 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Yes. However They are currently little South Africas. Moreover these two cities are indefensible. Any mob or gang can probably ruin them.
San Francisco is currently a shithole but I was refering more to its location and infrastructure. It can easily be made into a Singapore if you just toss out the bums, troublemakers, and current politicians.
And New York was becoming a Singapore-tier place under Giuliani and Bloomberg, but de Blasio seems keen on reversing this.Neko-koku wrote:Due to the problem of South Africanization I don't support establishing any Singapores in Continental United States. It is either Hawaii (too hot?) or Alaska (too cold?).
Hawaii and Alaska are too far away from anything.
Other good Singapore-tier places (based on their locations alone more than anything) would be Havana and New Orleans.
by Pacomia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:37 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Pacomia wrote:Toronto?
Based on infrastructure and people, yes, but based on location, it's a bit too inland, and if you're going to go inland, then Chicago and Detroit are much better geographically.Pacomia wrote:I also think that Singapore and Japan aren’t the only options. The US isn’t an equal mix of cultures, but it sure isn’t culturally homogeneous either, and it’s doing fine.
I think we are witnessing the end of this.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:38 am
Pacomia wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
Based on infrastructure and people, yes, but based on location, it's a bit too inland, and if you're going to go inland, then Chicago and Detroit are much better geographically.
I think we are witnessing the end of this.
True. Japans will stay Japans, Singapores will stay Singapores, and Americas could really go either way. The US itself is becoming a Singapore (might become a South Africa instead if not well-handled, though), others could become Japans.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:44 am
Neko-koku wrote:San Lumen wrote:
How are you going to create an ethnostate in the United States? Who is us referring too?
What defines an American to you?
Us = STEM folks
The conflict between Japan-minded folks and Singapore-minded folks are essentially townie-gownie conflicts. Townies have asabiyyah while gownies have knowledge and tech.
>What defines an American to you?
I'm not even American.
>How are you going to create an ethnostate in the United States?
I have no idea. Maybe we should just make Hawaii a gownie-land or something and keep all kinds of racial, ethnic and religious militants out. The Silicon Valley and maybe Wall Street need to be relocated to Hawaii.
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:46 am
Neko-koku wrote:Pacomia wrote:True. Japans will stay Japans, Singapores will stay Singapores, and Americas could really go either way. The US itself is becoming a Singapore (might become a South Africa instead if not well-handled, though), others could become Japans.
The problem...is that there are almost no Singapores in America. Even the Silicon Valley is only Singapore within the company offices. The streets are still South African. Even Cupertino is not safe from South Africanization. Look at San Francisco. How Singaporean is that?
America is a mixture of Japans, South Africas and Botswanas. What's even worse is that almost no major faction in America understands Singaporism. To them there are only Japans, South Africas and Botswanas in the world! SJWs believe that Japans are evil and that Batswana need to be allowed into America to make it a giant South Africa. Trads believe that Japans are good (rightfully) and that Batswana need to be kept out of America.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:46 am
San Lumen wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Us = STEM folks
The conflict between Japan-minded folks and Singapore-minded folks are essentially townie-gownie conflicts. Townies have asabiyyah while gownies have knowledge and tech.
>What defines an American to you?
I'm not even American.
>How are you going to create an ethnostate in the United States?
I have no idea. Maybe we should just make Hawaii a gownie-land or something and keep all kinds of racial, ethnic and religious militants out. The Silicon Valley and maybe Wall Street need to be relocated to Hawaii.
How about no? Why would you relocate them? Who are you to tell people where they can live?
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:47 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Neko-koku wrote:The problem...is that there are almost no Singapores in America. Even the Silicon Valley is only Singapore within the company offices. The streets are still South African. Even Cupertino is not safe from South Africanization. Look at San Francisco. How Singaporean is that?
America is a mixture of Japans, South Africas and Botswanas. What's even worse is that almost no major faction in America understands Singaporism. To them there are only Japans, South Africas and Botswanas in the world! SJWs believe that Japans are evil and that Batswana need to be allowed into America to make it a giant South Africa. Trads believe that Japans are good (rightfully) and that Batswana need to be kept out of America.
It would be more helpful if you used neutral/technical terms instead of Japans/Singapores/South Africas because your average person isn't going to catch what you mean by them.
by Saiwania » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:47 am
San Lumen wrote:How about no? Why would you relocate them? Who are you to tell people where they can live?
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:48 am
San Lumen wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Us = STEM folks
The conflict between Japan-minded folks and Singapore-minded folks are essentially townie-gownie conflicts. Townies have asabiyyah while gownies have knowledge and tech.
>What defines an American to you?
I'm not even American.
>How are you going to create an ethnostate in the United States?
I have no idea. Maybe we should just make Hawaii a gownie-land or something and keep all kinds of racial, ethnic and religious militants out. The Silicon Valley and maybe Wall Street need to be relocated to Hawaii.
How about no? Why would you relocate them? Who are you to tell people where they can live?
And you mentioned genetic editing are you a white supremacist?
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:49 am
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:49 am
Saiwania wrote:San Lumen wrote:How about no? Why would you relocate them? Who are you to tell people where they can live?
People who're anti-choice politically speaking. Those who won't agree to freedom of movement and won't embrace the absurd liberal values and internationalist order it is trying to impose. Those whom nationalism and tradition speaks more to.
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