That's both racist and untrue. Most white people in America have been here 4+ generations. How are they foreign?
How many generations does it take to go from being foreign to native?
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by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:31 am
by Necroghastia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:36 am
Bear Stearns wrote:Necroghastia wrote:
The latter, at least when talking about Michigan, or any other place in the Americas.
That's both racist and untrue. Most white people in America have been here 4+ generations. How are they foreign?
How many generations does it take to go from being foreign to native?
by Bear Stearns » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:37 am
Necroghastia wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
That's both racist and untrue. Most white people in America have been here 4+ generations. How are they foreign?
How many generations does it take to go from being foreign to native?
I dunno. Don't really care, seeing as I'm not the one raising a stink over ancestry.
by Necroghastia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:39 am
by Tornado Queendom » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:36 pm
San Lumen wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Crackpot racist bitch, it doesnt matter if you dont believe in it or not, interracial is still gona be a category on pornhub.
Also i wonder if that "Doesnt want anyone foreign born settling in the city" apply to just darkies or foreign whities too, or are we okay?
When people say that it usually refers to people of color. If you ask them about someone from Russia settling in their community they would likely have no issueTornado Queendom wrote:I honestly kind of agree with Jean Cramer, but I'm not going to comment any further than that. Besides, it's for very different reasons anyways (which are personal to me).
You agree with her? May I inquire as to why?
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:39 pm
by Aureumterra » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:16 pm
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:"I'm not racist, but..." isn't gonna prevent us from seeing through her wingnuttery. The question over interracial marriages has already been settled in Loving v. Virginia in 1967, and there is no objective reason for why law-abiding citizens should be barred from marrying the person of their heart on the basis of their melanin quantity.
by Neko-koku » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:18 pm
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:"I'm not racist, but..." isn't gonna prevent us from seeing through her wingnuttery. The question over interracial marriages has already been settled in Loving v. Virginia in 1967, and there is no objective reason for why law-abiding citizens should be barred from marrying the person of their heart on the basis of their melanin quantity.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:48 pm
Neko-koku wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:"I'm not racist, but..." isn't gonna prevent us from seeing through her wingnuttery. The question over interracial marriages has already been settled in Loving v. Virginia in 1967, and there is no objective reason for why law-abiding citizens should be barred from marrying the person of their heart on the basis of their melanin quantity.
It was "settled" by Jim Crow too. "Settle" in social issues means "temporarily accepted" and nothing else. Nothing social is ever going to be settled.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:51 pm
Neko-koku wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:"I'm not racist, but..." isn't gonna prevent us from seeing through her wingnuttery. The question over interracial marriages has already been settled in Loving v. Virginia in 1967, and there is no objective reason for why law-abiding citizens should be barred from marrying the person of their heart on the basis of their melanin quantity.
It was "settled" by Jim Crow too. "Settle" in social issues means "temporarily accepted" and nothing else. Nothing social is ever going to be settled.
by Saiwania » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:05 pm
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Unless the entire SCOTUS magically decides that interracial marriage is bad and decides to unilaterally invalidate its own court ruling, there is no realistic chance that Loving v. Virginia is ever going to be overturned, especially as there is no objective scientific reason for why interracial marriages should be banned. The state is there to govern the country and care for the welfare and security of its people, not to be a marriage counsellor.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:14 pm
Saiwania wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Unless the entire SCOTUS magically decides that interracial marriage is bad and decides to unilaterally invalidate its own court ruling, there is no realistic chance that Loving v. Virginia is ever going to be overturned, especially as there is no objective scientific reason for why interracial marriages should be banned. The state is there to govern the country and care for the welfare and security of its people, not to be a marriage counsellor.
If interracial marriage were to be outlawed, it'd be done via stacking the supreme court with judges that'll invalidate that ruling or via an actual amendment that can't be struck down so easily like regular legislation can. Would be like the Nuremberg Laws.
For while the US constitution guarantees a lot of rights and makes change glacial and difficult to implement by design, it can't protect against popular mandate. It used to be legal to forcibly sterilize certain people in the US for example, because during that time- Eugenics was very popular and commonplace. Scientific racism was in vogue and etc. Society isn't guaranteed to always be so tolerant and liberal as it is now.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:20 pm
Saiwania wrote:Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Unless the entire SCOTUS magically decides that interracial marriage is bad and decides to unilaterally invalidate its own court ruling, there is no realistic chance that Loving v. Virginia is ever going to be overturned, especially as there is no objective scientific reason for why interracial marriages should be banned. The state is there to govern the country and care for the welfare and security of its people, not to be a marriage counsellor.
If interracial marriage were to be outlawed, it'd be done via stacking the supreme court with judges that'll invalidate that ruling or via an actual amendment that can't be struck down so easily like regular legislation can. Would be like the Nuremberg Laws.
For while the US constitution guarantees a lot of rights and makes change glacial and difficult to implement by design, it can't protect against popular mandate. It used to be legal to forcibly sterilize certain people in the US for example, because during that time- Eugenics was very popular and commonplace. Scientific racism was in vogue and etc. Society isn't guaranteed to always be so tolerant and liberal as it is now.
by Thermodolia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:21 pm
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Failing to see how this is even news worthy, as I'm sure it not that hard to find someone sharing a similar viewpoint among every race.
In other news, water is wet but does it also make your sheets whiter? The answers may shock and surprise you, followed by sports at eleven.
by Loben The 2nd » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:22 pm
San Lumen wrote:Saiwania wrote:
If interracial marriage were to be outlawed, it'd be done via stacking the supreme court with judges that'll invalidate that ruling or via an actual amendment that can't be struck down so easily like regular legislation can. Would be like the Nuremberg Laws.
For while the US constitution guarantees a lot of rights and makes change glacial and difficult to implement by design, it can't protect against popular mandate. It used to be legal to forcibly sterilize certain people in the US for example, because during that time- Eugenics was very popular and commonplace. Scientific racism was in vogue and etc. Society isn't guaranteed to always be so tolerant and liberal as it is now.
Your not going to get a constitutional amendment passed to outlaw interracial marriage and that would be a Supreme Court completely out of step with popular opinion
by Saiwania » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:24 pm
San Lumen wrote:Your not going to get a constitutional amendment passed to outlaw interracial marriage and that would be a Supreme Court completely out of step with popular opinion
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:24 pm
by Thermodolia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:25 pm
San Lumen wrote:Neko-koku wrote:
Here we go. Then you do need to be in a Japan. Singapore is NOT for most people. It does both Japanese and Singaporeans a favor for Japan-minded people to be in a Japan. Without keeping Japan Japan we can't keep Singapore Singapore.
Are you one of those people who thinks no one should immigrate and China should just be for Chinese people or Japan got Japanese or America for Americans?
What defines an American? We are a multicultural country and you cannot and should not say only white people can reside in a community. American doesn’t mean white and neither does a Briton or German
by Thermodolia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:26 pm
Saiwania wrote:Yes! Finally a prominent woman out there that is fighting the good fight for the right values. She would have my full support, but it'd be quite a difficult and long fight if she's going up against the forces of Liberalism and the media that embraces all that is wrong in this world.
by Thermodolia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Saiwania wrote:San Lumen wrote:Your not going to get a constitutional amendment passed to outlaw interracial marriage and that would be a Supreme Court completely out of step with popular opinion
My point is that if that happened, that is how it could be done. However unlikely it is. The US constitution after all, allows itself to be amended. It isn't always about precedent.
by Estanglia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Thermodolia wrote:San Lumen wrote:Are you one of those people who thinks no one should immigrate and China should just be for Chinese people or Japan got Japanese or America for Americans?
What defines an American? We are a multicultural country and you cannot and should not say only white people can reside in a community. American doesn’t mean white and neither does a Briton or German
Actually Britons and Germans are white.
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by Andsed » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Saiwania wrote:Yes! Finally a prominent woman out there that is fighting the good fight for the right values. She would have my full support, but it'd be quite a difficult and long fight if she's going up against the forces of Liberalism and the media that embraces all that is wrong in this world.
I wouldn’t call someone running for a city that barely tops 10,000 people to be prominent
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Saiwania wrote:Yes! Finally a prominent woman out there that is fighting the good fight for the right values. She would have my full support, but it'd be quite a difficult and long fight if she's going up against the forces of Liberalism and the media that embraces all that is wrong in this world.
I wouldn’t call someone running for a city that barely tops 10,000 people to be prominent
by Telconi » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Loben The 2nd wrote:Dredd Scott.
Which led to a brutal civil war resulting in the victory of the abolitionists, completely abolishing slavery nationwide and at least de jure granting some basic civil rights to Black Americans, such as equal protection under the law and suffrage to black men.
by Tornado Queendom » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:31 pm
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:completely abolishing slavery nationwide
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