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Pacomia
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:31 pm

Thepeopl wrote:Cancer is not nearly as deadly as obesitas. (Heart disease)
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-shee ... s-of-death

So? Just because more people die from car accidents than shootings doesn’t mean we don’t try to stop shootings. Why should we not with cancer?
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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:39 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:Cancer is not nearly as deadly as obesitas. (Heart disease)
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-shee ... s-of-death

So? Just because more people die from car accidents than shootings doesn’t mean we don’t try to stop shootings. Why should we not with cancer?

We can easily reduce cancer by living healthy. No more smoking, alcohol, drugs, radiation, fine dust, carcinogenic chemicals, meat or animals products and cancer will drop to Australian cancer rates. Or even lower.
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Postby Emulation White » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:43 pm

Like the industrial revolution, I'm assuming biological advancement wll be marked by disaster, widening inequality and eventual learning. Fuck yeah, bring on the X-Men!

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:44 pm

Thepeopl wrote:
Pacomia wrote:So? Just because more people die from car accidents than shootings doesn’t mean we don’t try to stop shootings. Why should we not with cancer?

We can easily reduce cancer by living healthy. No more smoking, alcohol, drugs, radiation, fine dust, carcinogenic chemicals, meat or animals products and cancer will drop to Australian cancer rates. Or even lower.


Life is better if you live it, not avoid living to get a few more years. Besides, biological immortality is the way forward.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I don't approve of playing God.
I see this as against human rights.

Sperm don’t have rights. They’re sperm.
And regardless, unless you wanna go back to caveman level nutrition, that ship sailed a long time ago.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I see this as against human rights.

In what way?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:49 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I oppose this as I see it as psychotic.

How?
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Postby Kernen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Wholly in favor. Would heavily engineer my offspring to their benefit if I could.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Sperm don’t have rights. They’re sperm.
And regardless, unless you wanna go back to caveman level nutrition, that ship sailed a long time ago.

I strongly disagree on both accounts.

Genetically engineering Sperm results in engineering humanity, warping them to our sick preferences. It's akin to stretching out something in every way until we like it. It goes against their rights to not be forced into being something.

Sperm have rights in the same way cars have rights.

Boy, I would like to introduce you to human history, because we’ve been doing that for a while.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:How?

Anyone who wants to do this is misguided and sickens me.

Explain.

And you also haven't said how it is against human rights.
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Postby Kernen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kernen wrote:Wholly in favor. Would heavily engineer my offspring to their benefit if I could.

To me, you're psychotic if you do that.

I'm comfortable with you thinking that I'm psychotic if it makes my kids smarter, healthier, and more attractive. Maximize their success.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Sperm have rights in the same way cars have rights.

Boy, I would like to introduce you to human history, because we’ve been doing that for a while.

Not to this level, this to me is a red line.

Fighting cancer is a red line?
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:54 pm

Kernen wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:To me, you're psychotic if you do that.

I'm comfortable with you thinking that I'm psychotic if it makes my kids smarter, healthier, and more attractive. Maximize their success.

E u g e n i c s a r e n o t g o o d !
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Postby Kernen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:55 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Kernen wrote:I'm comfortable with you thinking that I'm psychotic if it makes my kids smarter, healthier, and more attractive. Maximize their success.

E u g e n i c s a r e n o t g o o d !

Eugenics aren't good if you're preventing people from their own reproductive choices. There's nothing wrong with making choices for you and your offspring.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:55 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Fighting cancer is a red line?

I'm not going to argue with this false premise.

In fact I'm so sickened by this and that people are supporting this I'm just going to leave the thread, as this will stress me out and I would rather not be, right now.

But you haven't answered any of my questions. :eyebrow:
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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:59 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I see this as against human rights.

In what way?


Like the painkillers, oxycodone, fentanyl. They are very addictive and can easily kill you.
The makers of these drugs have made an other drug to mitigate the deadly effects of oxy/ fentanyl. So they first hook you up on drugs that were only intended for terminally ill patients who are in pain and where all other painkillers are not strong enough.
And now they make money on "fighting " the plague caused by themselves.

Watch "patriot act" on fentanyl.

GMO has impovered loads of farmers. Making them dependent on corporations for livelihood. Where you used to have grains to sow, harvest and eat/ sell a part and sow the rest to grow next year. Now farmers have to buy grains each year.

So corporations could make all humans infertile and force humans to buy their children.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Who knows how far this can be taken? Perhaps the sperm of an old geezer could be made like the sperm of a 21 year old one of these days, for enough money that is.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:Load after load of hot, thick, virile seed from the loins.

What the actual...? :?
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:05 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Load after load of hot, thick, virile seed from the loins.

What the actual...? :?

I want to bleach my eyes after reading that.
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Postby Kernen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:06 pm

What do you people have against a little homoerotica? Sheesh.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:06 pm

Pacomia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What the actual...? :?

I want to bleach my eyes after reading that.

And my memory.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:09 pm

I look forward to seeing the hideous and unintended side effects from this technology, both socially and on the individual level. I, for one, know enough yo know that this isn't going to go exactly as intended. Sorry to ruin the technophile religious fapfest.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:10 pm

The New California Republic wrote:What the actual...? :?


Well admit it, if there existed a medication, substance, or whatever that enabled a man to do just that without feeling pain or a limitation such as a refractory period, chances are they'd take it. It's more boring to be limited by your physical biology or age.
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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:12 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Load after load of hot, thick, virile seed from the loins.

What the actual...? :?

It would be interesting to see if the children of elder men still would have the advantages of now.

If your father was over 40 when he fathered you, you are healthier and less likely to die young than when you father was under the age of 20. Mainly because the older parents pay more attention to their children.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect

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Postby Scomagia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:13 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What the actual...? :?


Well admit it, if there existed a medication, substance, or whatever that enabled a man to do just that without feeling pain or a limitation such as a refractory period, chances are they'd take it. It's more boring to be limited by your physical biology or age.

Disagree.
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