Genetically engineered sperm

[Kernen]

Then being human isn't ideal. Its only eugenics if you control the reproduction of others. People choosing their own reproductive future isn't eugenics.

That sounds like a pessimistic view.

Pessimism is just realism as seen by optimists.

[Arthenius]

That sounds like a pessimistic view.

Pessimism is just realism as seen by optimists.

If nothing else, it comes off as having an element of misanthropism.

[Pacomia]

So, clean and simple:

No cancer good.
Eugenics bad.

Doesn’t matter if genetic engineering is used or not. The focus isn’t the genetic engineering, it’s what it’s being used for.

[Kernen]

Pessimism is just realism as seen by optimists.

If nothing else, it comes off as having an element of misanthropism.

I'm not responsible for how others read into my words. Being human is less than Ideal if we can improve ourselves and don't.

I'd rather be improved. And if I had offspring, you can bet I'd improve them.

[Fuzzbuckets]

Pffft, call me when they start making hybrid animal people, then we'll have something to talk about.

It has already been done, by multiple extraterrestrial races before us...

[Ifreann]

Yeah, it's getting cancer that makes us human. If we stop getting cancer then what's the point in living?

A broader question than that is, if we stop having to overcome challenges and hardships and we improve our science so much that we have nothing to overcome, what is the point of living?

Whatever challenges we see fit to set ourselves. There is more to the world than the limits of our biology or technology. This should be obvious even now. We have motorised vehicles, yet we run foot races. We have flying machines, yet we climb mountains. And we race those vehicles and perform stunts with those machines. Whatever technologies we develop in the future we will obviously treat the same way. We'll test our abilities without those technologies, for the sake of the challenge of doing so, and we'll test our abilities at using those technologies, for the sake of the challenge of doing so.

[Athayop]

Did you test it on mice?

[Neanderthaland]

Did you test it on mice?

Test what? CRISPR? That's been tested on most everything.

But I'm guessing that they haven't tested removing this gene that "can increase the risk for breast, ovarian, prostate and other cancers" on mice. Because mice probably don't carry that gene.

[Ifreann]

Did you test it on mice?

Test what? CRISPR? That's been tested on most everything.

But I'm guessing that they haven't tested removing this gene that "can increase the risk for breast, ovarian, prostate and other cancers" on mice. Because mice probably don't carry that gene.

Maybe we should introduce it into mice.

[Neanderthaland]

Test what? CRISPR? That's been tested on most everything.

But I'm guessing that they haven't tested removing this gene that "can increase the risk for breast, ovarian, prostate and other cancers" on mice. Because mice probably don't carry that gene.

Maybe we should introduce it into mice.

Unfortunately, in mice and rats, that gene causes super-intelligence.

The good news is they were all eaten by a cat named Dragon.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oh, absolutely. We would need a very good regulatory system so as to minimize abuse of such tech as much as possible.

No, we should embrace the abuses in my view. I want to be using this for the purposes of race. After only one or a few generations, if this were used for all or most of a country's zygotes, the skin color and other traits can be selected by the state to come up with a national standard for aesthetics.

A Japanese baby in that situation, could still look stereotypically Japanese even if the father is Black as one example. In the old days, there was no stopping that baby from having Black skin to some extent as a result of that, but with this- the Black skin trait could plausibly be switched off in favor of whatever it is a government or the parents want.

The commonality or rarity of specific races, could become more like a fashion trend instead of being dictated by immigration, economics, and the fertility or lack thereof of different populations.

Are you seriously going to make this about race? There are far more important things here than whatever kink about race you have. There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

[Neko-koku]

Don't know if i'd call this better. Genetically engineering the perfect children sounds awfully dangerously close to eugenics, and it's our flaws that make us human.

Yeah, it's getting cancer that makes us human. If we stop getting cancer then what's the point in living?

Lmao.

[Neko-koku]

Maybe we should introduce it into mice.

Unfortunately, in mice and rats, that gene causes super-intelligence.

The good news is they were all eaten by a cat named Dragon.

Which is the origins of Neko-koku.

[Rojava Free State]

This is quite simple. Every sperm is good sperm, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God will get quite irate. That includes manufactured ones.

God gets upset over some trivial crap. I don't even care, so why would he?

[Nakena]

Of course I am supportive of this, once technology has sufficiently far enough advanced.

[Kowani]

Of course I am supportive of this, once technology has sufficiently far enough advanced.

I thought you might be.

[Saiwania]

There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

[Neko-koku]

There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

In the sense that people will be able to manufacture children with traits common to a small population 5,000 years ago? If that's what you mean by "racial purity" then it is definitely going to be feasible.

However neither this nor random mixing is going to produce better humans. Genetic editing for the purpose of genetic enhancement will be able to achieve that. I predict that AI will be better than transhumans and transhumans will be better than regular humans.

[Kaztropol]

Coming soon to a clinic near you:

The iChild. It's your child, but better ! Ever wanted your child to be tall, slim, attractive, and healthy ? Well, now you can !


*Use of 3rd-party genitalia will invalidate warranty.

[Pacomia]

Coming soon to a clinic near you:

The iChild. It's your child, but better ! Ever wanted your child to be tall, slim, attractive, and healthy ? Well, now you can !


*Use of 3rd-party genitalia will invalidate warranty.

Ooooh, I like this quote.

[Neko-koku]

Coming soon to a clinic near you:

The iChild. It's your child, but better ! Ever wanted your child to be tall, slim, attractive, and healthy ? Well, now you can !


*Use of 3rd-party genitalia will invalidate warranty.

That's before people realize that children suck.

[Nakena]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

The point is that the man of tomorrow will not be concerned with such petty and meaningless considerations.

[Neko-koku]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

The point is that the man of tomorrow will not be concerned with such petty and meaningless considerations.

Nope because collectivists are actually more likely to have kids compared to individualists and then evolution selects for...

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Sooooo can I coin the term Frankerstain?

[Grenartia]

The first and last point sound pretty weak. In all honesty, the rich will probably create a new caste system. Themselves at the top, with the best enhancements. The military in the middle to enforce their will, with some good enhancements for combat, maybe some enforced dependencies (maybe an addiction to a chemical that only the ones at the top can provide), etc. And everyone else will be worker drones and effectively slaves, consigned to whatever menial labor can't be automated, with modifications to reduce uprisings and whatnot, and to improve labor efficiency.

Bro, I think you just inadvertently described the Dominion and the Jem'Hadar from DS9.

I mean, kinda? Not my fault the DS9 writers described a way of oppressing people that utilizes genetic engineering. Its basically no different in structure from this.