Republicans don't understand immigration

[Kowani]

You realize illegal immigrants pay millions in taxes-and don’t vote.

I doubt that they all don't vote... there's no way the Democrats would pass up a voting block like that. I imagine that for every illegal immigrant who pays taxes, there are ten who take the tax money of myself and that other immigrant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

I doubt that they all don't vote... there's no way the Democrats would pass up a voting block like that. I imagine that for every illegal immigrant who pays taxes, there are ten who take the tax money of myself and that other immigrant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

On the flip side, undocumented immigrants to tend to cost us in tax dollars far exceeding that which they put in... going into the billions of dollars

[Communist Crimean Republic]

I doubt that they all don't vote... there's no way the Democrats would pass up a voting block like that. I imagine that for every illegal immigrant who pays taxes, there are ten who take the tax money of myself and that other immigrant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

And Jumping the border is also illegal but you seemed to have dropped that from the conversation.

[GLDF]

Except we don't.

We do though. We don't want to be letting in bad people from other countries just like how you don't want bad people getting guns.

And the admitted fascist showed up, showing how we're wrong and needlessly absurd lines keep the bad people out.

[Antityranicals]

I doubt that they all don't vote... there's no way the Democrats would pass up a voting block like that. I imagine that for every illegal immigrant who pays taxes, there are ten who take the tax money of myself and that other immigrant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

Just because they didn't find voter fraud is no proof that it doesn't exist. In any case, I'm still generally just not a fan of allowing people into this country who, when they become citizens, are likely to vote my money away. The simple solution would be to stop government theft altogether, and decriminalize tax evasion. But I suppose that's the opposite of the statist agenda, so it's sadly quite unlikely that it will happen.

[New haven america]

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

And Jumping the border is also illegal but you seemed to have dropped that from the conversation.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

[Catsfern]

I fully understand that some immigration policies are tedious and that the process to get into the us as an immigrant is a long one, however I also must say that I still don't believe we should abolish the border or be more forgiving to illegal immigrants. Plus the US isn't the only country with tough immigration laws, a lot of the EU has some tight restrictions on immigration. All in all I think the process could use a bit of a clean up, but I still understand why the laws that are in place exist, many of them were made in the interests of national security and as the need for these laws grew outdated congress never got around to repealing them.

[Communist Crimean Republic]

And Jumping the border is also illegal but you seemed to have dropped that from the conversation.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

(Note, Emphasis Mine)

Sauce, Please? And Still remember, It's still illegal.

Plus, Pretty sure Trump's Wife happens to have a green card

[Kowani]

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

On the flip side, undocumented immigrants to tend to cost us in tax dollars far exceeding that which they put in... going into the billions of dollars

Cite that.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

And Jumping the border is also illegal but you seemed to have dropped that from the conversation.

Well, because legality is irrelevant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

Just because they didn't find voter fraud is no proof that it doesn't exist.

If you’re going to claim it does, you need proof.

In any case, I'm still generally just not a fan of allowing people into this country who, when they become citizens, are likely to vote my money away.

What are you talking about?

The simple solution would be to stop government theft altogether, and decriminalize tax evasion. But I suppose that's the opposite of the statist agenda, so it's sadly quite unlikely that it will happen.

This would do…what that was beneficial?

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

And Jumping the border is also illegal but you seemed to have dropped that from the conversation.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

Which is just as bad as border hopping and both cases should be dealt with

[Communist Crimean Republic]

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

Which is just as bad as border hopping and both cases should be dealt with

If I remember correctly, the percentage of illegal immigrants that just overstay visas is ~40% at it's highest

(Sauces: An "Adam Ruins Everything" Episode on the border wall (Can't pull Vid because school computer and it's blocked)
A "Don't Walk, Run! Productions" Rebuttal (Same problem as the Previous Vid))

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

On the flip side, undocumented immigrants to tend to cost us in tax dollars far exceeding that which they put in... going into the billions of dollars

Cite that.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publicatio ... -taxpayers

[New haven america]

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

(Note, Emphasis Mine)

Sauce, Please? And Still remember, It's still illegal.

Plus, Pretty sure Trump's Wife happens to have a green card

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

Melania entered the country on a work visa, overstayed the time her visa allowed thus becoming an illegal immigrant, then got with Trump and had her kid whose sole purpose was to allow her to chain migrate and be legally allowed to stay in the country.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

(Note, Emphasis Mine)

Sauce, Please? And Still remember, It's still illegal.

Plus, Pretty sure Trump's Wife happens to have a green card

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

Melania enter the country on a work visa, overstayed the time her visa allowed thus becoming an illegal immigrant, then got with Trump and had her kid whose sole purpose was to allow her to chain migrate and be legally allowed to stay in the country.

Gross, Melania is a trophy wife and nothing more though so Id figure as much

[Neutraligon]

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter the country legally and overstay their visas/alloaded time.

See: Trump's current wife.

(Note, Emphasis Mine)

Sauce, Please? And Still remember, It's still illegal.

Plus, Pretty sure Trump's Wife happens to have a green card

She got her green card when she married Trump in 2005, she arrived here before that. Also there is evidence she worked here illegally as a model before she received here work visa in 1996 https://www.newsweek.com/was-melania-tr ... ted-994609

[Neutraligon]

(Note, Emphasis Mine)

Sauce, Please? And Still remember, It's still illegal.

Plus, Pretty sure Trump's Wife happens to have a green card

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

Melania entered the country on a work visa, overstayed the time her visa allowed thus becoming an illegal immigrant, then got with Trump and had her kid whose sole purpose was to allow her to chain migrate and be legally allowed to stay in the country.

Actually she didn't enter on a work VISA, that is one of the issues, she worked in the US before receiving her work VISA

[Kowani]

Cite that.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publicatio ... -taxpayers

It’d be nice if it cited any of its sources, because all I’m seeing are numbers pulled out of thin air.

Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office disagrees.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publicatio ... -taxpayers

It’d be nice if it cited any of its sources, because all I’m seeing are numbers pulled out of thin air.

Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office disagrees.

Fair Fair, pages 9-10 is interesting.... I concede the point

[Kowani]

It’d be nice if it cited any of its sources, because all I’m seeing are numbers pulled out of thin air.

Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office disagrees.

Fair Fair, pages 9-10 is interesting.... I concede the point

Thank you.

[Kowani]

...We got a Commie Socialist and Fascist to agree?

GUYS!

NS IS THE SECRET TO WORLD PEACE!

FTFY.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

...We got a Commie and Fascist to agree?

GUYS!

NS IS THE SECRET TO WORLD PEACE!

Im not a Fascist lol... look in sig

[Dasko]

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

Just because they didn't find voter fraud is no proof that it doesn't exist. In any case, I'm still generally just not a fan of allowing people into this country who, when they become citizens, are likely to vote my money away. The simple solution would be to stop government theft altogether, and decriminalize tax evasion. But I suppose that's the opposite of the statist agenda, so it's sadly quite unlikely that it will happen.

Well, if they can't find any voter fraud from the voter information that I think was limited, but still sufficient (maybe). Then the commission is either:

• Inept
• Not looking hard enough
• Or, voter fraud occurs at too low of a rate to be detectable, therefore not able to influence any election outcomes

I think the third is true.

As for the second part, well, I'll leave it as is.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

I like good data, I got bested in the comparison of data... and I conceded, thats how normal people operate tbh

[Marxist Germany]

I doubt that they all don't vote... there's no way the Democrats would pass up a voting block like that. I imagine that for every illegal immigrant who pays taxes, there are ten who take the tax money of myself and that other immigrant.

Well, they can’t vote. It’s illegal. And before you ask: they looked. As for taxation, illegal immigrants pay about 11 million in taxes per year-and aren’t eligible for benefits.

How would illegals pay taxes without being documented? $11million would mean less than a dollar in taxes per person...or most illegals not paying.

[Kowani]

...We got a Commie and Fascist to agree?

GUYS!

NS IS THE SECRET TO WORLD PEACE!

Im not a Fascist lol... look in sig

I see Keynes and I approve.