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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:40 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people


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And Turkey tried to completely kill off the Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Chaldeans, Alevis and Maronites within their borders. They also enslaved Christian children in the Balkans and made them soldiers and burned down Albanian villages. America has a brutal history but Turkey makes our racism look tame.
I disagree with you,stop seeing the Turks as a bogeyman. I'm talking about an idea of ​​racism.The sentence in the example makes me sick
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Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:40 pm

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Jolthig wrote:Okay, here's the problem with this philosophy: It is an outdated notion. The continued globalization and free flow of the peoples between various nations makes this philosophy outdated. Japan for example, was isolationist for many years, but the United States alongside other countries ended that. I find nationalist isolationism to be absurd because then, they won't be able to advance technologically and culturally. It is fact, Saiwana, in human history, humans have migrated. There is no such thing as "preserving the identity" of a nation. The only logic I see out of it is xenophobic ultranationalism. We are humanity, and we should all work together for a better world. We are connected through our DNA. Being isolationist will not change this fact. We all have a common ancestor, and with the flowing of humans between various countries, your idea for "preserving cultures", whatever that means, cannot work in this era.


This is such bull, really infuriates me what liberals are trying to do to ethno-states and strong distinguished cultures that have existed for centuries if not longer. I'm going to support nationalist populism whenever there is an opportunity to do so. What Donald Trump wants to do with regards to immigration, I'm fully behind him on that. I say no to free movements between borders and no to more globalization than is necessary.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:40 pm

Evacillian wrote:What I do want to know is why it is labeled as an "Alleged" Attack. There is, apparently, footage of the incident. And even if it was staged, if the girl has the injuries to prove it, she was still physically violated. Therefore, it was an actual attack.
Can anyone please explain why its "Alleged", please?

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:40 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Okay, here's the problem with this philosophy: It is an outdated notion. The continued globalization and free flow of the peoples between various nations makes this philosophy outdated. Japan for example, was isolationist for many years, but the United States alongside other countries ended that. I find nationalist isolationism to be absurd because then, they won't be able to advance technologically and culturally. It is fact, Saiwana, in human history, humans have migrated. There is no such thing as "preserving the identity" of a nation. The only logic I see out of it is xenophobic ultranationalism. We are humanity, and we should all work together for a better world. We are connected through our DNA. Being isolationist will not change this fact. We all have a common ancestor, and with the flowing of humans between various countries, your idea for "preserving cultures", whatever that means, cannot work in this era.


This is such bull, really infuriates me what liberals are trying to do to ethno-states and strong distinguished cultures that have existed for centuries if not longer. I'm going to support nationalist populism whenever there is an opportunity to do so. What Donald Trump wants to do with regards to immigration, I'm fully behind him on that. I say no to free movements between borders and no to more globalization than is necessary.

Free movement across borders is pretty vital to Ireland. You wouldn't like it here.
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Postby Evacillian » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:41 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Evacillian wrote:What I do want to know is why it is labeled as an "Alleged" Attack. There is, apparently, footage of the incident. And even if it was staged, if the girl has the injuries to prove it, she was still physically violated. Therefore, it was an actual attack.
Can anyone please explain why its "Alleged", please?


Generally speaking, the term "alleged" comes about from the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".. IE Alleged Carjacker, Alleged thief, Alleged rapist ect ect.


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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:42 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Kronica wrote:I know the struggle. I am an Armenian, and in there most people are violent towards Turks for the genocide stuff.

To me, it was the fault of Ottomans, so it is unnecessary to blame on Turks. I even received insults for being able to speak Turkish and Azerbaijani.
I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people

No, it happened and was 100% a result of The Young Turks
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Okay, here's the problem with this philosophy: It is an outdated notion. The continued globalization and free flow of the peoples between various nations makes this philosophy outdated. Japan for example, was isolationist for many years, but the United States alongside other countries ended that. I find nationalist isolationism to be absurd because then, they won't be able to advance technologically and culturally. It is fact, Saiwana, in human history, humans have migrated. There is no such thing as "preserving the identity" of a nation. The only logic I see out of it is xenophobic ultranationalism. We are humanity, and we should all work together for a better world. We are connected through our DNA. Being isolationist will not change this fact. We all have a common ancestor, and with the flowing of humans between various countries, your idea for "preserving cultures", whatever that means, cannot work in this era.


This is such bull, really infuriates me what liberals are trying to do to ethno-states and strong distinguished cultures that have existed for centuries if not longer. I'm going to support nationalist populism whenever there is an opportunity to do so. What Donald Trump wants to do with regards to immigration, I'm fully behind him on that. I say no to free movements between borders and no to more globalization than is necessary.

It's not just liberals that advocate for people of other cultures to come here. Even some conservatives advocate for them to come here. Nationalism is just an outdated concept that is outside of the realm of reality. If you want to live in a delusional viewpoint that a nation will somehow be "preserved" whatever that means, then it simply won't do. Every single nation in this world, even the most isolationist, is connected because of advances in technology, military, trade agreements, immigration, and being part of the UN. This isn't the ancient world any more, Saiwana. We are becoming like one global city. If you cannot accept this fact, then you'll continue to waste your time advocating for unrealistic views. I believe we should have border security yes, but theres nothing wrong with people of other races coming here. Literally since this country was founded, members of other races have been here. I find your ultranationalist views ridiculous when looking at the history of the last few centuries.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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Blasphemy! You still have laws against that, right?

Nope. We're mad for the blasphemy.


Fucking Irish. Ruining Islamophobia and punishing the blasphemers. If you didn't make Taytos then I'd be calling for the Pope to excommunicate the lot of you....

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Postby Springfeal » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:44 pm

I didn't know Muslim was a race.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:45 pm

Evacillian wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Generally speaking, the term "alleged" comes about from the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".. IE Alleged Carjacker, Alleged thief, Alleged rapist ect ect.


Thank you. :)


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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:45 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Kronica wrote:I know the struggle. I am an Armenian, and in there most people are violent towards Turks for the genocide stuff.

To me, it was the fault of Ottomans, so it is unnecessary to blame on Turks. I even received insults for being able to speak Turkish and Azerbaijani.
I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people

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And Turkey tried to completely kill off the Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Chaldeans, Alevis and Maronites within their borders. They also enslaved Christian children in the Balkans and made them soldiers and burned down Albanian villages. America has a brutal history but Turkey makes our racism look tame.
I disagree with you,stop seeing the Turks as a bogeyman. I'm talking about an idea of ​​racism.The sentence in the example makes me sick
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''En iyi kürt ölü kürt'' ''best kurd dead kurd''

Jesus Christ. The Turks did some bad things. Everyone did some bad things. Accept that.
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Postby Galborea » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Okay, here's the problem with this philosophy: It is an outdated notion. The continued globalization and free flow of the peoples between various nations makes this philosophy outdated. Japan for example, was isolationist for many years, but the United States alongside other countries ended that. I find nationalist isolationism to be absurd because then, they won't be able to advance technologically and culturally. It is fact, Saiwana, in human history, humans have migrated. There is no such thing as "preserving the identity" of a nation. The only logic I see out of it is xenophobic ultranationalism. We are humanity, and we should all work together for a better world. We are connected through our DNA. Being isolationist will not change this fact. We all have a common ancestor, and with the flowing of humans between various countries, your idea for "preserving cultures", whatever that means, cannot work in this era.


This is such bull, really infuriates me what liberals are trying to do to ethno-states and strong distinguished cultures that have existed for centuries if not longer. I'm going to support nationalist populism whenever there is an opportunity to do so. What Donald Trump wants to do with regards to immigration, I'm fully behind him on that. I say no to free movements between borders and no to more globalization than is necessary.

We're gonna hear about you in the news soon, won't we?

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:47 pm

Galborea wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
This is such bull, really infuriates me what liberals are trying to do to ethno-states and strong distinguished cultures that have existed for centuries if not longer. I'm going to support nationalist populism whenever there is an opportunity to do so. What Donald Trump wants to do with regards to immigration, I'm fully behind him on that. I say no to free movements between borders and no to more globalization than is necessary.

We're gonna hear about you in the news soon, won't we?


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Postby Kronica » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:47 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Kronica wrote:I know the struggle. I am an Armenian, and in there most people are violent towards Turks for the genocide stuff.

To me, it was the fault of Ottomans, so it is unnecessary to blame on Turks. I even received insults for being able to speak Turkish and Azerbaijani.
I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people


We all know it happened and it was against Armenian people.

Greek Genocide, Armenian Genocide, Assyrian Genocide, Sivas Massacre (Madımak) and more has been shown the real face of Turkey.

Turkish government is hypocritical, obnoxious and embarrassing. So is it's people.

And no, i will not debate with a person who named their nation after a Nil Karaibrahimgil song.
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Postby Evacillian » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:49 pm

Alright people, Let's try and stay on topic. lol
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:49 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Kronica wrote:I know the struggle. I am an Armenian, and in there most people are violent towards Turks for the genocide stuff.

To me, it was the fault of Ottomans, so it is unnecessary to blame on Turks. I even received insults for being able to speak Turkish and Azerbaijani.
I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people

Rojava Free State wrote:
And Turkey tried to completely kill off the Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Chaldeans, Alevis and Maronites within their borders. They also enslaved Christian children in the Balkans and made them soldiers and burned down Albanian villages. America has a brutal history but Turkey makes our racism look tame.
I disagree with you,stop seeing the Turks as a bogeyman. I'm talking about an idea of ​​racism.The sentence in the example makes me sick
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for example
''En iyi kürt ölü kürt'' ''best kurd dead kurd''


Nice way to twist my words. I never said all Turks are evil racists. I said your country has a history of murdering people. The blame is on the people who killed people for not being turks, not on all Turks
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm

Kronica wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I do not agree with you.The Armenian Genocide is a slander against the Turkish people


We all know it happened and it was against Armenian people.

Greek Genocide, Armenian Genocide, Assyrian Genocide, Sivas Massacre (Madımak) and more has been shown the real face of Turkey.

Turkish government is hypocritical, obnoxious and embarrassing. So is it's people.

And no, i will not debate with a person who named their nation after a Nil Karaibrahimgil song.


Ottomanism is built around the idea that the Turks are better than everyone. It totally makes sense they would kill people for not being turks
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 pm

Jolthig wrote:This is simply a silly idea. Here in my city, while we are mostly white, we are becoming more and more diverse. I don't mind it at all, and I'm saying this as a man who is mostly white. Why should a white neighborhood take action against a minority coming in when they won't harm the white race?


It does harm the White race's ability to continue as it is, if every single place Whites live, is becoming diverse. There needs to be at least some safe havens where it is majority White for enough of the White genotype to not be changing towards darker because of the addition of non-Whites interfering to become more of a majority.
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Postby Vivaxea » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 pm

It is fucking astonishing to me that more than a quarter of the people who answered that poll see no problem at all with an innocent girl being attacked without provocation. Seriously guys, what is the world coming to?

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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:This is simply a silly idea. Here in my city, while we are mostly white, we are becoming more and more diverse. I don't mind it at all, and I'm saying this as a man who is mostly white. Why should a white neighborhood take action against a minority coming in when they won't harm the white race?


It does harm the White race's ability to continue as it is, if every single place Whites live, is becoming diverse. There needs to be at least some safe havens where it is majority White for enough of the White genotype to not be changing towards darker because of the addition of non-Whites interfering to become more of a majority.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:53 pm

Vivaxea wrote:It is fucking astonishing to me that more than a quarter of the people who answered that poll see no problem at all with an innocent girl being attacked without provocation. Seriously guys, what is the world coming to?

Imagine people going on the internet and lying on an internet poll.
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Postby Vivaxea » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:This is simply a silly idea. Here in my city, while we are mostly white, we are becoming more and more diverse. I don't mind it at all, and I'm saying this as a man who is mostly white. Why should a white neighborhood take action against a minority coming in when they won't harm the white race?


It does harm the White race's ability to continue as it is, if every single place Whites live, is becoming diverse. There needs to be at least some safe havens where it is majority White for enough of the White genotype to not be changing towards darker because of the addition of non-Whites interfering to become more of a majority.

Well then, I will ask you this. What is the inherent problem with the white race becoming darker?

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Jolthig wrote:This is simply a silly idea. Here in my city, while we are mostly white, we are becoming more and more diverse. I don't mind it at all, and I'm saying this as a man who is mostly white. Why should a white neighborhood take action against a minority coming in when they won't harm the white race?


It does harm the White race's ability to continue as it is, if every single place Whites live, is becoming diverse. There needs to be at least some safe havens where it is majority White for enough of the White genotype to not be changing towards darker because of the addition of non-Whites interfering to become more of a majority.

There is nothing wrong with people intermingling. Heck, I'm of mixed race technically as many americans are, despite me being mostly white. If white DNA can connect with other DNA, then it means your idea is meaningless. Besides the point, individuals can marry and have facilities with whomever they desire. If you fear whites will decline, then your views are outside of reality.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm

I think this is more because said girl wear the hijab or headscarf, you name it - which makes her identity as more recognizable. I think it's not really because of her race, but I have yet to finish reading throughout the sources provided. Then again this is not new, though doesn't make it as acceptable.

People need to stop attacking others because of their identity be it race, religion, or others.

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Postby Pacomia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It does harm the White race's ability to continue as it is, if every single place Whites live, is becoming diverse. There needs to be at least some safe havens where it is majority White for enough of the White genotype to not be changing towards darker because of the addition of non-Whites interfering to become more of a majority.

…Have you considered not being wrong?

Nah.
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