A Weather Station Above the Arctic Circle Hit 94.6 Degrees F

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

But climate change is faked by the pinkos!

[Greed and Death]

I agree, let's live sustainably. Let's pressure and force our politicians to make the 1% live sustainably, and incentivise the developing world to tackle the problem properly. To aid in this effort, I say we document and publicise the hugely unusual phenomenons happening across the planet.

Lets keep it real, almost everyone of us is to blame for climate change. Ordinary people are just as much at fault as the wealthy or the oil companies and etc. Just to different scales.

Whenever I for example, mow the lawn with a gasoline lawn mower or I use charcoal to grill food, or whenever I use electricity for air conditioning, entertainment, and etc. I'm emitting my share of carbon that is harming this planet, assuming the power generation isn't coming from nuclear or something renewable. Individually no- I'm having little to no impact. But collectively- the point is that everything adds up to such an extent that it is causing problems.

The comfortable lifestyles we want to live are good for us temporarily, but not for the environment. We'll need to devote some resources to removing the carbon we're adding back out of circulation to maintain our good lifestyles, or to make sacrifices to living standard, or doing both- to get everything right again in the long term.

And I wont sacrifice a thing so lets just accept our destiny and enjoy our trip to a boiling planet.

[Saiwania]

And I wont sacrifice a thing so lets just accept our destiny and enjoy our trip to a boiling planet.

You will if objectively speaking, it becomes harder and more expensive to live on this planet, because it is in crisis or falling apart- unless you're able to pay up more to get the same standard of living as you used to have. If there are finite resources, price is usually the best way to determine who gets what. If you're able to spend more, you'll usually get more.

[Anovan]

Only if the top 1% of the world and industrializing developing nations see an economic benefit in doing so.

So no, we won't be working on either of those.

When your coasts are flooded, your farms are dead and your borders are swamped, you will look back and say: “at least we created a lot of value for some shareholders.”

And I had a great time using lots of air-conditioning in the summer, eating tons of meat, not bothering to recycle, using lots of easy single-use products, etc...

Lets keep it real, almost everyone of us is to blame for climate change. Ordinary people are just as much at fault as the wealthy or the oil companies and etc. Just to different scales.

Whenever I for example, mow the lawn with a gasoline lawn mower or I use charcoal to grill food, or whenever I use electricity for air conditioning, entertainment, and etc. I'm emitting my share of carbon that is harming this planet, assuming the power generation isn't coming from nuclear or something renewable. Individually no- I'm having little to no impact. But collectively- the point is that everything adds up to such an extent that it is causing problems.

The comfortable lifestyles we want to live are good for us temporarily, but not for the environment. We'll need to devote some resources to removing the carbon we're adding back out of circulation to maintain our good lifestyles, or to make sacrifices to living standard, or doing both- to get everything right again in the long term.

And I wont sacrifice a thing so lets just accept our destiny and enjoy our trip to a boiling planet.

Honestly, same dude

[Greed and Death]

And I wont sacrifice a thing so lets just accept our destiny and enjoy our trip to a boiling planet.

You will if objectively speaking, it becomes harder and more expensive to live on this planet, because it is in crisis or falling apart- unless you're able to pay up more to get the same standard of living as you used to have. If there are finite resources, price is usually the best way to determine who gets what. If you're able to spend more, you'll usually get more.

Though investment I control a significant chunk of the means of production. Global warming increases prices it also increases shareholder returns. periods of chaos typically benefit the 1% like myself.

[Saiwania]

Though investment I control a significant chunk of the means of production. Global warming increases prices it also increases shareholder returns. periods of chaos typically benefit the 1% like myself.

People need to be wary of violent revolution, it's far less likely than in the old days- but they say it only takes things getting bad enough.

[Greed and Death]

Though investment I control a significant chunk of the means of production. Global warming increases prices it also increases shareholder returns. periods of chaos typically benefit the 1% like myself.

People need to be wary of violent revolution, it's far less likely than in the old days- but they say it only takes things getting bad enough.

As every gun control thread brings up small arms do not have a chance against the modern military.

[Great Minarchistan]

There will be low to no productivity to be had if people can't go outside anymore because its too hot in much of the world.

We really will have no choice but to find ways to remove carbon from the atmosphere via chemistry or new technologies with that aim, and to simultaneously abandon the use of all fossil fuels to as much of an extent as is possible. Where will the energy come from that is needed to run the carbon removal machines? Ideally, it should be from nuclear fusion (if that is accomplished) or via traditional nuclear power, but with Thorium instead of Uranium.

We already know how to remove carbon and methane from the environment: Strategic tree planting and carbon/methane absorbers.

Those however, get in the way of profits to be had, so we can't use them.

>decreased productivity due to pollution
>avoiding it = net loss of profits relative to status quo
wow such bigbrained takes, will you please go on with your enlightenment

[Kowani]

We already know how to remove carbon and methane from the environment: Strategic tree planting and carbon/methane absorbers.

Those however, get in the way of profits to be had, so we can't use them.

>decreased productivity due to pollution
>avoiding it = net loss of profits relative to status quo
wow such bigbrained takes, will you please go on with your enlightenment

Reminder that by the time that effect hits, most of the people in charge of the companies doing the pollution won’t exactly be around to suffer the consequences.

[The Emerald Legion]

People need to be wary of violent revolution, it's far less likely than in the old days- but they say it only takes things getting bad enough.

As every gun control thread brings up small arms do not have a chance against the modern military.

Nonsense. Small arms still work just fine. Particularly when supplemented by looted supplies stolen from said modern military using small arms.

[Great Minarchistan]

>decreased productivity due to pollution
>avoiding it = net loss of profits relative to status quo
wow such bigbrained takes, will you please go on with your enlightenment

Reminder that by the time that effect hits, most of the people in charge of the companies doing the pollution won’t exactly be around to suffer the consequences.

and then, when demonstrated that climate change has a negative effect on the economy .: it's profitable to avoid it, you change the goalpost to "but the current ceo's wont be around by the time it happens!"

[Kowani]

Reminder that by the time that effect hits, most of the people in charge of the companies doing the pollution won’t exactly be around to suffer the consequences.

and then, when demonstrated that climate change has a negative effect on the economy .: it's profitable to avoid it, you change the goalpost to "but the current ceo's wont be around by the time it happens!"

I haven’t moved any goalposts? I never claimed it wasn’t profitable for the nation as a whole-but for the people doing it, and the politicians they bribe and practically own? Yeah, it’s profitable not to do anything.

[Stellar Colonies]

I wonder when the frozen methane under the polar regions will start spewing into the air.

Once those get going, we're completely scr*wed

[Greed and Death]

As every gun control thread brings up small arms do not have a chance against the modern military.

Nonsense. Small arms still work just fine. Particularly when supplemented by looted supplies stolen from said modern military using small arms.

I will still find plenty of 18 year olds willing to oppress the working class for a minuscule chance at social advancement.

[New haven america]

Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

Why don't you think that what's currently happening is actually an issue?

[Ghost Land]

This saying is old already, but "we have to do something".


As someone who lives in one of the 'developing nations', converting what technology we have currently to a more nature friendly one is not an easy task, it requires a lot of money. Even if monetary incentives are coming, we still have the corruption problems.

America has already been consistently reducing its carbon emissions.

We literally are already doing something.

Yeah, by about 20% since 1980. Meanwhile, we have 36% more people (308 million in 2010 versus 226 million in 1980), so we're clearly not "doing anything" fast enough.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ah it’s good to know we’re all gonna die

[The Emerald Legion]

Nonsense. Small arms still work just fine. Particularly when supplemented by looted supplies stolen from said modern military using small arms.

I will still find plenty of 18 year olds willing to oppress the working class for a minuscule chance at social advancement.

And now we come to the crux of the issue. The problem Isn't the small arms. It's the lack of numerical superiority combined with the lack of force multipliers.

[Great Minarchistan]

and then, when demonstrated that climate change has a negative effect on the economy .: it's profitable to avoid it, you change the goalpost to "but the current ceo's wont be around by the time it happens!"

I haven’t moved any goalposts? I never claimed it wasn’t profitable for the nation as a whole-but for the people doing it, and the politicians they bribe and practically own? Yeah, it’s profitable not to do anything.

firms and shareholders dont gain more profits if their workers are more productive, coherent logic of the day

[Kowani]

I haven’t moved any goalposts? I never claimed it wasn’t profitable for the nation as a whole-but for the people doing it, and the politicians they bribe and practically own? Yeah, it’s profitable not to do anything.

firms and shareholders dont gain more profits if their workers are more productive, coherent logic of the day

Considering that most firms aren’t concerned with long term sustainability…

[Neanderthaland]

This all seems very familiar.

If another race of hominids suddenly shows up, make sure to fuck some of them before you go.

[Great Minarchistan]

firms and shareholders dont gain more profits if their workers are more productive, coherent logic of the day

Considering that most firms aren’t concerned with long term sustainability…

successful ones do, unsurprisingly

[Kowani]

Considering that most firms aren’t concerned with long term sustainability…

successful ones do, unsurprisingly

Successful by what metric?

[Great Minarchistan]

successful ones do, unsurprisingly

Successful by what metric?

MNCs/F500 corps

[Aureumterra]

This all seems very familiar.

If another race of hominids suddenly shows up, make sure to fuck some of them before you go.

Planet of Apes when?