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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 am

Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

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Postby Chan Island » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:29 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.


Just ignore the massive fires in Siberia and the lack of ice around Alaska, eh? :roll:

I agree, let's live sustainably. Let's pressure and force our politicians to make the 1% live sustainably, and incentivise the developing world to tackle the problem properly. To aid in this effort, I say we document and publicise the hugely unusual phenomenons happening across the planet.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:54 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.


As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/

Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.

Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?

I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:18 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

In defense of this thread, it's only to continue the awareness of global rising temperatures although yes, it is true it is out of my hands to do anything, it is also true that awareness can be spread. And while can adapt to the new environment, it's also true that wildfires burn in the north, and that animals are dying.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:17 am

Jolthig wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

In defense of this thread, it's only to continue the awareness of global rising temperatures although yes, it is true it is out of my hands to do anything, it is also true that awareness can be spread. And while can adapt to the new environment, it's also true that wildfires burn in the north, and that animals are dying.

In fairness hysteria is probably what's required if the message is going to get across, although at this stage one begins to wonder if we are far, far too late.
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Postby Ghost Land » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:24 am

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Aureumterra wrote:That’s probably a summer temperature than, during summer, the cold ocean currents from Eastern Greenland blow in, I’m saying Reykjavik is warmer than New York in the winter

How much you wanna bet that that temperature was recorded in the past 15 years?

It was recorded on 30 July 2008, with records going back to 1949. The all-time record low of −19.7°C was recorded on 30 January 1971.

Also, this thread title removes context from what happened and thus is by itself rather unimpressive. Fairbanks, Alaska, recorded a temperature of 99°F on 28 July 1919, just south of 65°N. This was a full century ago, before the global warming hysteria.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:38 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Jolthig wrote:In defense of this thread, it's only to continue the awareness of global rising temperatures although yes, it is true it is out of my hands to do anything, it is also true that awareness can be spread. And while can adapt to the new environment, it's also true that wildfires burn in the north, and that animals are dying.

In fairness hysteria is probably what's required if the message is going to get across, although at this stage one begins to wonder if we are far, far too late.


The message is not working. It should focus more on immediate harms like asthma and cancer from air pollution. Air pollution directly kills millions a year. Climate change is harmful a aspect of air pollution but there are many others.

We can still bring up global warming of course, but I think we need to raise the other harms more effectively. Cancer is scarier to the average person.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:43 am

Novus America wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.


As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/

Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.

Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?

I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.

Nuclear power/carbon tariffs when?
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:48 am

Novus America wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.


As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/

Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.

Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?

I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.

I've been kinda on the fence regarding nuclear power for years. I can see its benefits, but I am also weary of its dangerous concerning meltdowns though admittingly the meltdown in the USSR Chernobyl, was due to poor management and poor technology while US standards are safer.

I havent taken time to study this subject
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Postby Marxist Germany » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:51 am

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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:00 am

Jolthig wrote:
Novus America wrote:
As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/

Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.

Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?

I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.

I've been kinda on the fence regarding nuclear power for years. I can see its benefits, but I am also weary of its dangerous concerning meltdowns though admittingly the meltdown in the USSR Chernobyl, was due to poor management and poor technology while US standards are safer.

I havent taken time to study this subject


There is a lot of misinformation out there.
https://ourworldindata.org/what-is-the- ... -of-energy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... of-it/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.c ... -fear.aspx

It is scientifically proven nuclear is the safest. Chernobyl was a poorly made obsolete design, even so killed far fewer than a coal plant would.

There are types of reactors that literally CANNOT possibly melt down as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techno ... urope/amp/

It is a indisputable scientific fact that nuclear uses the least resources, is the safest and most reliable.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:21 am

Novus America wrote:
Jolthig wrote:I've been kinda on the fence regarding nuclear power for years. I can see its benefits, but I am also weary of its dangerous concerning meltdowns though admittingly the meltdown in the USSR Chernobyl, was due to poor management and poor technology while US standards are safer.

I havent taken time to study this subject


There is a lot of misinformation out there.
https://ourworldindata.org/what-is-the- ... -of-energy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... of-it/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.c ... -fear.aspx

It is scientifically proven nuclear is the safest. Chernobyl was a poorly made obsolete design, even so killed far fewer than a coal plant would.

There are types of reactors that literally CANNOT possibly melt down as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techno ... urope/amp/

It is a indisputable scientific fact that nuclear uses the least resources, is the safest and most reliable.

Thanks for the information. I'll definitely take a look at these sources.
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Liriena wrote:Press F to pay respects to this planet


No, press N-U-C-L-E-A-R. 8)
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:27 am

Jolthig wrote:
Novus America wrote:
There is a lot of misinformation out there.
https://ourworldindata.org/what-is-the- ... -of-energy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... of-it/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.c ... -fear.aspx

It is scientifically proven nuclear is the safest. Chernobyl was a poorly made obsolete design, even so killed far fewer than a coal plant would.

There are types of reactors that literally CANNOT possibly melt down as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techno ... urope/amp/

It is a indisputable scientific fact that nuclear uses the least resources, is the safest and most reliable.

Thanks for the information. I'll definitely take a look at these sources.


I do not want to link spam but I have plenty more. I understand there is a lot of fear and lies out there, but the science is settled that nuclear is the safest, most reliable and least resource intensive out there.

You are a smart man, so I am sure you will understand.
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Postby Ayissor » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:40 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

I always wanted to know who we can blame on the whole "We are all going to die soon" thing aside from the 1 percent, but now I see, people who think it's hysteria because they have no idea how climate works.
Thank you for helping the one percent earn more money, while we boil alive like a frog in water that's slowly raised in temperature!

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:43 am

Ayissor wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

I always wanted to know who we can blame on the whole "We are all going to die soon" thing aside from the 1 percent, but now I see, people who think it's hysteria because they have no idea how climate works.
Thank you for helping the one percent earn more money, while we boil alive like a frog in water that's slowly raised in temperature!


When 90+% of climate scientists agree that climate change is a problem but you invalidate years of scientific study and research by simply saying "WRONG!"
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:11 am

So it was hotter in the Arctic Circle in Sweden than in Saginaw which is closer to the Equator than the North Pole.

This just ain't right and makes me think stop that damn methane leaking.
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Ayissor wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.

There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.

I always wanted to know who we can blame on the whole "We are all going to die soon" thing aside from the 1 percent, but now I see, people who think it's hysteria because they have no idea how climate works.
Thank you for helping the one percent earn more money, while we boil alive like a frog in water that's slowly raised in temperature!

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Novus America wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Thanks for the information. I'll definitely take a look at these sources.


I do not want to link spam but I have plenty more. I understand there is a lot of fear and lies out there, but the science is settled that nuclear is the safest, most reliable and least resource intensive out there.

You are a smart man, so I am sure you will understand.

If course.

You can telegram them to me, and I will archive them.
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Postby Aeirin » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:29 am

It's scary. There's an heatwave in Europe, record temperatures in France (with several deaths attributed to the heat), and wildfires in both Spain and Portugal. Things are getting worse, and they're getting worse *faster*. Climate change is a very real threat, and it saddens me that some people deny its existence, or fail to see the danger in it.
I find that many people tend to adopt more personal measures, like using public transport more often, or going vegan, and it has to be recognized that these attitudes, while noble, won't solve the problem, because they aren't what's causing the problem in the first place, it's the wider policies. More than half of greenhouse emissions come from energy use (not only energy generation, although it is a big slice, but also heating/cooling, construction, transport, etc.), and a lot of good could be done by simply phasing out fossil fuel subsidies (370 billion USD when compared to 140 billion USD for renewable energy). The excuse that renewable energy is not viable is simply that, an excuse. Renewables are growing faster than fossil fuels, and the energy produced is just as affordable as fossil fuels, and in some cases, cheaper. Also, they're *clean*, and I really like existing.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:37 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Two words: Nuclear energy


Another two words that would help fix climate change. Nuclear Winter.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:52 am

Woohooo world record. Here is to many more.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:35 pm

Chan Island wrote:I agree, let's live sustainably. Let's pressure and force our politicians to make the 1% live sustainably, and incentivise the developing world to tackle the problem properly. To aid in this effort, I say we document and publicise the hugely unusual phenomenons happening across the planet.


Lets keep it real, almost everyone of us is to blame for climate change. Ordinary people are just as much at fault as the wealthy or the oil companies and etc. Just to different scales.

Whenever I for example, mow the lawn with a gasoline lawn mower or I use charcoal to grill food, or whenever I use electricity for air conditioning, entertainment, and etc. I'm emitting my share of carbon that is harming this planet, assuming the power generation isn't coming from nuclear or something renewable. Individually no- I'm having little to no impact. But collectively- the point is that everything adds up to such an extent that it is causing problems.

The comfortable lifestyles we want to live are good for us temporarily, but not for the environment. We'll need to devote some resources to removing the carbon we're adding back out of circulation to maintain our good lifestyles, or to make sacrifices to living standard, or doing both- to get everything right again in the long term.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:27 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:This saying is old already, but "we have to do something".

New haven america wrote:Only if the top 1% of the world and industrializing developing nations see an economic benefit in doing so.

So no, we won't be working on either of those.

As someone who lives in one of the 'developing nations', converting what technology we have currently to a more nature friendly one is not an easy task, it requires a lot of money. Even if monetary incentives are coming, we still have the corruption problems.

America has already been consistently reducing its carbon emissions.

We literally are already doing something.
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