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by Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 am
by Chan Island » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:29 am
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:54 am
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
by Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:18 am
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
by Shamhnan Insir » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:17 am
Jolthig wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
In defense of this thread, it's only to continue the awareness of global rising temperatures although yes, it is true it is out of my hands to do anything, it is also true that awareness can be spread. And while can adapt to the new environment, it's also true that wildfires burn in the north, and that animals are dying.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Ghost Land » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:24 am
by Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:38 am
Shamhnan Insir wrote:Jolthig wrote:In defense of this thread, it's only to continue the awareness of global rising temperatures although yes, it is true it is out of my hands to do anything, it is also true that awareness can be spread. And while can adapt to the new environment, it's also true that wildfires burn in the north, and that animals are dying.
In fairness hysteria is probably what's required if the message is going to get across, although at this stage one begins to wonder if we are far, far too late.
by Aclion » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:43 am
Novus America wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/
Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.
Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?
I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.
by Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:48 am
Novus America wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/
Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.
Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?
I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.
by Marxist Germany » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:51 am
by Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:00 am
Jolthig wrote:Novus America wrote:
As I always have to point out, freaking Nixon had a plan for our power to be clean by 1980!
Also this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... power/amp/
Had we spent all the money we spent on wind and solar on nuclear instead, the air pollution from power problem would at least be solved.
Why do so many keep clinging to this anti nuclear insanity? Naivety? Sociopathy? Ignorance of science?
I like Flat Earthers more than anti-nuclear.
Anti-nuclear is just as scientifically valid (that is not at all), but has done FAR more damage.
I've been kinda on the fence regarding nuclear power for years. I can see its benefits, but I am also weary of its dangerous concerning meltdowns though admittingly the meltdown in the USSR Chernobyl, was due to poor management and poor technology while US standards are safer.
I havent taken time to study this subject
by Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:21 am
Novus America wrote:Jolthig wrote:I've been kinda on the fence regarding nuclear power for years. I can see its benefits, but I am also weary of its dangerous concerning meltdowns though admittingly the meltdown in the USSR Chernobyl, was due to poor management and poor technology while US standards are safer.
I havent taken time to study this subject
There is a lot of misinformation out there.
https://ourworldindata.org/what-is-the- ... -of-energy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... of-it/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.c ... -fear.aspx
It is scientifically proven nuclear is the safest. Chernobyl was a poorly made obsolete design, even so killed far fewer than a coal plant would.
There are types of reactors that literally CANNOT possibly melt down as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techno ... urope/amp/
It is a indisputable scientific fact that nuclear uses the least resources, is the safest and most reliable.
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by Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:25 am
by Novus America » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:27 am
Jolthig wrote:Novus America wrote:
There is a lot of misinformation out there.
https://ourworldindata.org/what-is-the- ... -of-energy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... of-it/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.c ... -fear.aspx
It is scientifically proven nuclear is the safest. Chernobyl was a poorly made obsolete design, even so killed far fewer than a coal plant would.
There are types of reactors that literally CANNOT possibly melt down as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techno ... urope/amp/
It is a indisputable scientific fact that nuclear uses the least resources, is the safest and most reliable.
Thanks for the information. I'll definitely take a look at these sources.
by Ayissor » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:40 am
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
by Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:43 am
Ayissor wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
I always wanted to know who we can blame on the whole "We are all going to die soon" thing aside from the 1 percent, but now I see, people who think it's hysteria because they have no idea how climate works.
Thank you for helping the one percent earn more money, while we boil alive like a frog in water that's slowly raised in temperature!
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Serbian Empire » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:11 am
by The Serbian Empire » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:12 am
Ayissor wrote:Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Oh wow, another climate hysteria thread.
There's only so many "we have to do something or the world dies!?!" threads I can stomach. Something should probably be done, but it's out of your hands. Let's live sustainably as best we can and put an end to this virtue signaling every time something happens in the environment.
I always wanted to know who we can blame on the whole "We are all going to die soon" thing aside from the 1 percent, but now I see, people who think it's hysteria because they have no idea how climate works.
Thank you for helping the one percent earn more money, while we boil alive like a frog in water that's slowly raised in temperature!
by Jolthig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:19 am
Novus America wrote:Jolthig wrote:Thanks for the information. I'll definitely take a look at these sources.
I do not want to link spam but I have plenty more. I understand there is a lot of fear and lies out there, but the science is settled that nuclear is the safest, most reliable and least resource intensive out there.
You are a smart man, so I am sure you will understand.
by Aeirin » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:29 am
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:37 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Two words: Nuclear energy
by Greed and Death » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:52 am
by Saiwania » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:35 pm
Chan Island wrote:I agree, let's live sustainably. Let's pressure and force our politicians to make the 1% live sustainably, and incentivise the developing world to tackle the problem properly. To aid in this effort, I say we document and publicise the hugely unusual phenomenons happening across the planet.
by Nova Cyberia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:27 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:This saying is old already, but "we have to do something".New haven america wrote:Only if the top 1% of the world and industrializing developing nations see an economic benefit in doing so.
So no, we won't be working on either of those.
As someone who lives in one of the 'developing nations', converting what technology we have currently to a more nature friendly one is not an easy task, it requires a lot of money. Even if monetary incentives are coming, we still have the corruption problems.
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